Sick to death of dogs

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Went to the beach today with dh and dd1.

Got jumped on by a dog off its lead. Owner said "oh. Sorry"

Two dogs ran up to us and started growling and snapping at me and dd who was playing on the sand.

Another dog ran up to us, had no idea what it's intentions were!

All off lead, all owners using their baby voices "don't do that Fido darling!"

Dog shit bags everywhere despite their being loads of bins and even free dog bags!

Absolutely so fed up of entitled dog owners and their nasty little dogs.

There will soon be a whole generation of young people terrified of common domestic animals.

I agree OP, it’s just totally out of hand. Vast majority of dog owners are A-holes who think that everyone should love their dogs and clean up after them.

We went out yesterday and there were dogs everywhere. Being around dog owners I think is just as bad as the dogs themselves.

The analogy works. At least gun owners keep their guns to themselves.

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Let me correct that. Vast majority of dogs owners clean up after themselves. We do not think everyone should love our dogs as we don't naturally love everyone else's dogs. Many of us clean up after our own dogs. A small minority don't. I guess the same % of those that didn't years ago when the streets were marked in white dog poop

I always pick up after my dogs.

It’s definitely the majority that are A-holes and a lot don’t clean up after themselves, but I do accept there are good owners also - and actually, it’s nice to see and meet those. But most will allow their dogs to wander off up to people or bark incessantly though, which is why they’re disliked so much.

Sorry if you feel attacked - I hope you’re one of the considerate ones, who do carry your dogs poop home.

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we live near the beach constantly have dogs coming up and jumping into our face piles of shit along the beach if I allowed my child to jump on their face or have shitty nappies everywhere I’m sure they would have something to say

I don’t blame the dogs I blame the owners they have a sense of entitlement and take over the whole beach walkway/pavement

@Noshowlomo I am a responsible owner, always clean up after my dog. Never let him approach people unless they want to touch him, in fact have had the opposite where they just approach and touch without asking. We aren’t all the same.
The stories here always seem on the wild side.

I take your point about rubbish being harmless, but DD cut her hand on broken glass that had been buried at the beach (purposely concealed we believe). Wildlife can be harmed by plastic and cans so I wouldn’t say all rubbish left by humans is totally harmless. Just never see those threads on here. 🤷🏼‍♀️

It’s been awhile since we had a cat poop thread actually!

I don't feel attacked. It's just ashame you felt the need to tar everyone with the same brush. You'll find us dog owners who do pick up after our dogs are equally frustrated. We have to drag our dogs past piles of other dogs poop, that could be riddled with worms etc. I've spent 1000s having one of my dogs operated on after it was attacked by another dog who's owner didn't have it under control. Mine was on a lead. That dog ran at us and sank his teeth into my dog. 25 stitches and 2 operations he had.

I'm always saddened by threads like these as they tend to be so black and white, so extreme. As a dog lover and former owner, there are plenty of things I agree with the haters about, and I can see why they get so pissed off. Dogs do seem so have increased in numbers but unfortunately there's also:

1. so many owners who haven't researched the breed before buying, so the dog is a very bad match for the environment or the owner's abilities
2. so many people who haven't bought from a reputable breeder (so poor genetics/hereditary behaviour), or bought from a reputable rescue that behaviour tests them.
3. so many owners who fail at even the basics of dog training, and in many cases (such as my neighbours and friends) have inadvertently trained poor behaviour! No boundaries, no consistency, no idea what they're doing (and worse, they don't seem to care their dogs bark for ages in the garden)
4. way too many owners who allow their dogs to approach people. Please don't shout, "He's friendly" from the other side of the park. People should be able to be in public without being approached by dogs. Keep an eye on your dog, and if you can't prevent him from approaching people then keep him on a lead until he has a good recall.
5. so many owners not picking up their dog's poo. No-one likes it, especially people who aren't dog lovers
6. so many bloody extendable leads! Owners have almost zero control of their dogs when on these things. They can approach people and other dogs uninvited, they can walk into the road, get tangled in people/other dogs/cycles (seen it all, and really bad when a fight breaks out!)
7. so many people allowing their dogs to chase wildlife. No, it's not funny, don't let them do it. If you can't stop them, keep on a lead until your recall is good.
8. don't let your dogs jump up at people. If you can't, keep them on a lead until they've learned that it's unacceptable behaviour. Don't just feebly say, "Oh sorry".

Seriously, I love dogs, I've had 4 over the years and only don't have one now because of work. But I'm so fed up with so many owners. I've had dogs approach me barking and growling off lead and the owners blame me! "It must be your rucksack", "It must've been because you didn't make eye contact with him", and of course the "He's friendly" or "She's a puppy" 😩

So if you or your dog does any of these, then please don't blame the hater for being "intolerant". Instead up your game and be a responsible owner.

Nowhere did I say it was everyone, just the majority of dog owners either fit into the camp of being A) inconsiderate B) not clearing up after themselves and C) Letting their dogs be a nuisance. Or some kind of combination of the three.

Sounds terrible what happened to your dog, hope he’s ok now.

@Missingmyusername that’s really shit and I hope your daughter is ok x

Quite. People like OP are exactly the reason why there ARE dog beaches and non-dog beaches, so that everyone is comfortable.

In reality, there are very few dog-free beaches because there is nobody enforcing it and some entitled owners just take their dogs on there anyway.

This entire post has really made me realise how some people just want to suck the joy out of life. My dog makes me very happy. I pick his shit up. I don't let him approach people who don't want to be approached. My life would be very boring without him. End of.

There just seems to be no tolerance anymore. Dogs naturally will trot along and drift towards people walking the other way. The vast majority don't jump or attack, they just have a quick look and carry on. They don't even touch the person.

If that happens on a busy high street or outside a school, of course it's not acceptable. But on a dog friendly beach in the middle of winter? Come on!

Well OP, it won't be long, dogs not allowed on most beaches, the children can play to their hearts content with the dirty nappies, broken bottles, syringes, piles of humans excrement, fast food containers, buried bbqs. All left by people without dogs with them..

i think what’s changed, though, is the marked and documented increase in poor dog behaviour and bites, including fatalities.

That’s not hyperbole (though I agree that the rest of this thread has definitely got a bit out of control). There has been a real increase and it’s difficult for non-dog owners to tell the difference between a friendly dog having a sniff and finding out what’s going on, to one intent on doing harm.

It seems to me that either we need:

• clear guidance on what constitutes ‘friendly’ so we don’t inadvertently freak out
• or for dog owners not to allow their dogs to approach people who don’t want to be approached.

I have a duty of care to my DS4, and I honestly don’t know if a dog is going to hurt him or not, and that might sound like an overreaction but if you read the studies, dog attacks are vastly increasing.

So my question remains: if a dog comes up to my four year old, how can I tell if he’s safe?

It doesn't really work as an argument as guns aren't widespread in the UK

Try cars.

Or do you have one?

I think the answer to your question is, you ought to assume the dog is dangerous. I would say this because you don’t know the dog or the owner and if the dog is off the lead in the presence of your 4 year old then it’s likely the owner has no care in the world and hasn’t trained it very well.

Dog owners have a duty to keep their dogs on a lead around children, and if they aren’t then who knows.

I love that the explanation went right over
your head and your best response was to mention cars.

No it didn't. It's called disagreeing with a piss-poor analogy and offering a more relevant one.

The analogy works very well and explains the posters points but you just disregarded them.

I don’t think you understand how an analogy works.

Oh no! Cars!

Vehicles are necessary. Cars, lorries and buses transport people and things from one place to another. They are useful. They create pollution, sure, and they’re hazardous. But they’re useful.

You may as well compare dogs with electricity in the home: it’s dangerous and making it creates pollution. But it’s useful.

Pet dogs, not so much.