Kylie Jenner just can't win

[34weekmess]

Can she ? If she is all done up full face of make up, she's fake, a bad influence on young girls, full of filler.
If she's toned down, stripped back, a natural make up look she is then criticised for her "botched face"

She might have alot of filler in her face (a lot of girls do these days) but I personally think she looks gorgeous in these recent photos from pfw.

So what is she meant to be media ?

@notjustthe but it's a bitchy comment, and there is no need

What does she do for a living?

The family are ALL about $$$$$$$. Always have been. Their choice. But I hate that it’s shoved in our faces every day.

(Though I weirdly like the trans step father a bit)

@ProtectiveParent ahh, but you could've just closed the thread, why did you feel the need to leave a bitchy comment ?

Just googled her through the ages. Shes changed her face considerably. Her choice of course but depressing that beauty now only involves one look. In your second picture she could pass as Michael Jackson's sister.

I don't see why someone would be negative though ? She is gorgeous no denying it, filler or not
It's the media that cause women and men to judge each other, I was making a point that she cannot win it's always one or the other

Because some people are arseholes and like to say horrible things about others. You have provided them with another opportunity. You can’t be that naive to not know how these things go so I can only conclude that the point of your thread was to get others to do just that. Well done. 🙄

I can’t ever find somebody who looks so entirely different to what they would naturally look like “gorgeous”. She was a perfectly average looking girl who has filled herself up with fakeness and now looks like a million other fake women. It is what it is, it’s part of her family’s approach and it’s made her very wealthy. I’m sure she has a lovely life. But I cannot fathom how anybody thinks that somebody pumping themselves full of crap so they don’t even resemble who they were born as can be gorgeous.

I didn't really start the thread to talk about the family and their money. How they got it etc, it was to point out how lovely kylie looks these days without all the make up etc but how that isn't being made a positive thing by the media, she is still being spoken badly about for it

Honestly some people are so negative. Can we not make a point of giving someone a bloody compliment ?

I think it's very sad that she's grown up in a family that trades solely on physical appearance. Her perspective on this would have been warped from childhood. I'm sure the money is lovely but it doesn't make someone's sense of self worth any better.

Is it so hard for people to agree Kylie looks great in the first set of pictures without saying nasty things and bringing her sisters into it ?

But this is exactly how they made their money. 💰 Looking as fake as possible. There are lots of cut rate versions of this everywhere. Fake sex for the cameral to sell as a video to get famous and rich (her sister). It is what it is.

Because all her family do the same!!

I can't say I'm a big fan of Kim or khloe to be honest. But I do like Kourtney and Kylie more than the others

By praising her looks, you invite comparison of her looks with other women, and therefore are using the exact same judginess as someone who doesn't think she's attractive. Why do we need to comment on looks at all? It's exactly that which has resulted in young women thinking they need procedures to look like the approved "attractive look" of the moment, which changes over time anyway.

You have invited comment by making comment, posters are just following your lead.

I think you're just narked because your threads gone tits up.

I nearly know who she is but if she is making money out of encouraging young women to replicate her plastic surgery, it is more than valid to point out the harm said treatments are having on her looks.

@LadyBird1973 self worth can sort of come from money and looks, so they don’t seem lacking exactly…. Even if they look a bit AI.

If I had her cash I'd look bloody amazing though. So it's not real, what you are seeing. Literally most people her age could achieve something similar.

Honestly some people are so negative. Can we not make a point of giving someone a bloody compliment ?

Online? No, it never goes well. Because on any thread where anyone says they like a person, people will always use that as an opportunity to say they hate them and write awful things about them. You know how it works so don’t pretend to be all innocent. With a family that are seen as quite controversial like the Kardashians especially, certain posters will use any excuse to be nasty. So if you like someone, the worst thing you can do is say it here. I don’t believe your intentions though so....

but what about the huge swathes of who really don’t give a toss what these kinds of much younger “celebs” than the demographic of mumsnet… look like. It is not that i will or won’t “agree” i just find the discussion somewhat contradictory and… well, childish

Have you ever heard the expression "Live by the sword, die by the sword"?

Press exposure and cosmetics are what she has chosen to live and breathe. She makes appearances at public events literally to show her face and body - that is what she sells. If they weren't writing about her, she wouldn't like that. So what are they supposed to do - only write articles about how nice she looks? It's a symbiotic relationship that needs change (e.g. a new look, new filler, filler gone wrong) in order to survive. She surely understands that and can stop at any time. We can stop feeding it by not reading it.

I think you've just about hit the nail on the head there ...

Personally, I think it’s so sad that a 26 year old face would look like this. Not just KJ, but lots of others too. Looks awful.

We had lovely fresh faces at that age (2002). I remember wanting to be skinny (Kate Moss) but I never disliked my face…

Timothee Chalamet seems very happy with the way she looks.........