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One of the saddest stories in a long time TW: Neglect/child death

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Perjo · 17/01/2024 11:11

I read this this morning and it has to be one of the saddest, most avoidable child deaths I've read about in a long time. Especially where it says he was still alive on January 2nd.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/47b4c6b2-673d-4c43-8ef0-b8ba05c47f0a?shareToken=39b0f7f8b3c90882aca021214db91159

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Caththegreat · 17/01/2024 22:13

Some people should not be parents but still bio parents get away with a lot.a mate fosters children but is always getting looks from women cos he's a male. they think he's a paedophile.

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 22:16

Zone2NorthLondon · 17/01/2024 20:55

No need for that Appalling comments. The mother has lost her child in harrowing circumstances

She didn’t ‘lose’ him, she neglected him while he starved to death. The buck stops with her, his mother.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 17/01/2024 22:25

BootyfuI · 17/01/2024 20:59

So many people with no experience of dysfunctional parents/families chiming in to blame the mother.

If she isn't allowed to see her child unsupervised, her son could be put in care or she could be arrested.

So no, she's not going to be bashing doors down. She probably thinks the father is simply not talking to her.

She's lost her child and people were at the door while he was still alive. Was the social worker to blame? No, not really. She made two more visits to gain access and went as far as getting a key.

This woman's child is still dead. She's going to be grieving and want to blame someone. She will feel let down and wish more was done, it's normal to feel that way.

And if she wasn’t allowed to see her child unsupervised why would that be? Because she’s a shit mother.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 17/01/2024 22:27

Some people really do excuse mothers/women all sort of shit behaviour just because of their sex. Probably equally likely she couldn’t be arsed with the kid and had found some other bloke to shack up with than that she was somehow unable to see her own kid

Notchangingnameagain · 17/01/2024 22:32

IF this “parent” had been bombarding the resident parent, SS, the Police, other relatives, friends and neighbours with texts, phone calls, emails. IF this “parent” had been banging on the door, the windows, trying to find out where the fuck her two year old was, she could blame. She would have a right to blame.

But she didn’t.

She fucked off, the child died in probably the most horrific way and she sells her story and blames everyone else.

NO. That’s NOT ok.

And the same goes for every other absent parent who does fuck all accept cry to the papers and cash in when something catastrophic happens.

BoxOfPaints · 17/01/2024 22:38

The whole family set-up sounds very worrying and complex. I hope the other children are getting appropriate support.

AllIsWellish · 17/01/2024 22:48

Well no one here knows why she didn't have any contact over Christmas but if she did have supervised contact etc which it doesn't sound like is the case , courts don't usually stop phone contact especially not at Christmas

If she'd had an argument and thought he was ignoring her then as SS were involved she could have contacted then with any concerns, she could have then contacted the police as well herself to do a check .

That's if she wasn't allowed any unsupervised contact , which some posters are using as an excuse for her not going round herself to check, she still had options she could have used to check on him

WingingItSince1973 · 17/01/2024 23:00

This is from an article I read.

WingingItSince1973 · 17/01/2024 23:01

Sorry pressed too soon!

Sarah and Kenny — who also share a daughter, three, and son, seven — split in 2019 but have had an on-off relationship.
The couple came to the mutual decision that Bronson would live with Kenny when Sarah moved into a new flat six months ago.
Her home was unsafe for the tot because of a high staircase without a banister.
She last saw Bronson in November and was due to see him this month to give him his Christmas present — which remains still wrapped up at home.

Notchangingnameagain · 17/01/2024 23:02

The SW who gained entry to that property, who had to find that horrendous, horrendous scene, who had that little boy on their case load, now has to read or hear about how they did a shit job.

The SW will know everything about that family and can’t defend themselves.

How will that SW, EVER get over that scene, let alone being blamed. Absolutely horrendous.

WingingItSince1973 · 17/01/2024 23:03

So she still has two very young children and left Bronson with his dad. This little boy is still a baby. I can't imagine ever palming my 2 year old off! If her new flat was dangerous for her 2 year old what makes it ok for her 3 year old!

paulaparticles · 17/01/2024 23:27

We're i come from if a vulnerable at risk child is left with family they need a support network.
So close friends and family who are also checking in and can be contacted by social services if they can't reach the parent...also to support the parent and child.
Only then.

fourelementary · 17/01/2024 23:31

She last saw Bronson in November and was due to see him this month to give him his Christmas present — which remains still wrapped up at home.

Oh well- she will probably be unwrapping it and flogging it at CEX shortly for fag money. Fucking waste of air that sad excuse for a mother is. Poor bloody kid had no chance of a decent life, did he?

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/01/2024 23:31

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 21:38

Why was the mother not able to meet the needs of her child? Was she once a child in need herself? Why was the father's health so poor for a man only in his 60s?

Individual failings in the vast majority of cases. I don’t think it’s fair to blame the government/society/support services. There has to be personal responsibility somewhere doesn’t there? Are we not all adults?

We can wish and hope really hard that people make good choices... or we can do more to ensure that the people who make terrible choices have more support, more resources, more help and if they still can't, more consequences and more supervision.

Or we can just say they need to do better and let children die. But at least my taxes will be low.

ZoeCM · 17/01/2024 23:41

I still can't get over that comment about how this isn't the mother's fault because "mums are allowed a break". There needs to be some way of getting across to the population at large that when you have a child, you are creating a human being. Not a doll that you can put down when you get bored - a human being who, for the early years of their life, is completely dependent on the adults around them. You can't just pack your child off to their other parent and pretend they don't exist for a few weeks, then blame social services when they're found dead.

AllIsWellish · 17/01/2024 23:47

WingingItSince1973 · 17/01/2024 23:01

Sorry pressed too soon!

Sarah and Kenny — who also share a daughter, three, and son, seven — split in 2019 but have had an on-off relationship.
The couple came to the mutual decision that Bronson would live with Kenny when Sarah moved into a new flat six months ago.
Her home was unsafe for the tot because of a high staircase without a banister.
She last saw Bronson in November and was due to see him this month to give him his Christmas present — which remains still wrapped up at home.

Well if that's true she just gets worse and worse

RootVegAndMash · 17/01/2024 23:56

The mother also has a number of adult kids who were removed as children.

I hope to God SS are keeping a close watch on the two still with her.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 18/01/2024 00:09

Mother's interview with The Sun

She apparently lived 10 minutes away yet hadn't seen her son since November.

“My first question was, ‘Where the hell is my boy then? Who has my boy?’ I got down there as fast as I could. I was there in ten minutes flat.

Mum of Bronson cries & says 'he was 2 inches too small to open fridge'

STARVED tot Bronson Battersby was just two inches too small to reach a fridge full of leftovers that would have saved him, his devastated mum told The Sun. The two-year-old also could not reach his…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/25399523/bronson-battersby-mother-fridge/amp/

PrincessFiorimonde · 18/01/2024 00:10

Heartbreaking story. I agree that it doesn't seem that the social worker did anything wrong at all.

A couple of posters have said that Bronson was supposed to be visited weekly by Social Services, which I imagine would indicate he was regarded as extremely vulnerable. But I'm sure I heard on the news that these visits were due twice a month, and in this report from Sky it says: 'Bronson would normally be paid a visit at least once a month, according to the council.' Bronson Battersby: Police force refers itself to watchdog after toddler found starved to death | UK News | Sky News

I know that's a small point. Ultimately, a toddler died because - why? Lack of police resources to follow up the SW's reports? Lack of input from other family members? We might never know the full picture. I just hope, as we all do, that this never happens to another child.

Bronson Battersby: Police force refers itself to watchdog after toddler found starved to death

Bronson Battersby's body was found with his father Kenneth's at their home in Skegness.

https://news.sky.com/story/police-force-refers-itself-to-watchdog-over-death-of-toddler-found-starved-to-death-13050272

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 18/01/2024 00:19

Lack of input from other family members?

It's 100% that. The mother, by her own words, lived 10 minutes away yet she hadn't seen her son for weeks. She says she argued with the father so decided to give the father some space , or similar nonsense.

There's no suggestion from her the father was violent, so no reason at all why she couldn't have visited.

paulaparticles · 18/01/2024 00:59

Toxic altogether. So both parents never saw their child/children who resided with other parent over Xmas. Her daughters teeth on her fb page are rotten. She needs an
assessment to see if she's even fit to parent. Just knowing her son spent Xmas with his dad and only his dad is hard to understand how she didn't even try to see him. He would have been confused we're all his family went before anything happened !
I hate to say this but if they separated then they could claim tax credit for third child i wonder has that played a part in the separation 😔

AllIsWellish · 18/01/2024 01:40

paulaparticles · 18/01/2024 00:59

Toxic altogether. So both parents never saw their child/children who resided with other parent over Xmas. Her daughters teeth on her fb page are rotten. She needs an
assessment to see if she's even fit to parent. Just knowing her son spent Xmas with his dad and only his dad is hard to understand how she didn't even try to see him. He would have been confused we're all his family went before anything happened !
I hate to say this but if they separated then they could claim tax credit for third child i wonder has that played a part in the separation 😔

You mean universal credits and they had separate homes so 2 lots of bills that come with having separate households so not really worth it 🙄

paulaparticles · 18/01/2024 01:50

For people who have nothing yes it would be worth it. No point in rolling your eyes at me stranger.

paulaparticles · 18/01/2024 01:53

So they separated and if she kept 3 she would only receive uc for 2. She prob couldn't afford to keep him then as a single person.
He stays with dad he can receive financial assistance for him and all the benefits that go with it. Some people think like this we are not all the same believe it or not.

Diorragdollcat · 18/01/2024 05:57

I read elsewhere that the extended family on Bronson,s Dads side lived 90 miles away but spoke on telephone regularly But Bronson,s Mum lived close by , even if she was not allowed contact im sure she was allowed to speak on the phone to Bronson but iv read nothing about her doing so . Sleep tight Bronson and your Daddy💔