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One of the saddest stories in a long time TW: Neglect/child death

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Perjo · 17/01/2024 11:11

I read this this morning and it has to be one of the saddest, most avoidable child deaths I've read about in a long time. Especially where it says he was still alive on January 2nd.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/47b4c6b2-673d-4c43-8ef0-b8ba05c47f0a?shareToken=39b0f7f8b3c90882aca021214db91159

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Mystro202 · 17/01/2024 12:10

Absolutely ludicrous that the mother is blaming SS having had no contact herself with her partner and son for days on end. A caring mother thinks of her children 24/7 and would want to bring them with her if moving out. I'm so angry. Poor poor little soul.

Sunday12 · 17/01/2024 12:16

Oh my gosh I wish I hadn’t read this. So tragic. I wish I could do more to help children suffering like this. Absolutely appalling story

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 17/01/2024 12:17

I feel so sorry for that poor social worker, what a bloody shame all round. It's just heartbreaking 😔

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 17/01/2024 12:20

He doesn’t look clean/well taken care of either in the photos.

I don’t know how a mum can not contact or see a child for two weeks, he wasn’t on social services radar for having a happy home life was he?

ironedcurtain · 17/01/2024 12:20

> Piesse said a post-mortem examination had found that Kenneth Battersby had died “no earlier than December 29”, adding: “It means if the social worker had pushed to get in when she got no reply on January 2, then Bronson would still have been alive.”

Assuming what the mother claims about Dec 29 is true – I remember a lot of blatant misreporting in things like the Archie Battersbee case and the recent one about the girl with mitochondrial disease – are social services allowed to just bash in?

hattie43 · 17/01/2024 12:21

Poor child was let down by the mother .

WinterLobelia · 17/01/2024 12:21

OrlandointheWilderness · 17/01/2024 11:43

The SS went round as arranged on the 2nd and got no answer - you wouldn't immediately think to break down the door! Asking the police to do a check on that date was actually being on the ball and proactive, she could spent the next couple of days trying to rearrange the missed appointment instead. With things like SS, visit appointments are often missed. I don't think she did anything wrong here and what a horrible shock it must've been when she did go in.

I agree with this. Tragic situation.

RIP Little Bronson.

ironedcurtain · 17/01/2024 12:22

I know it's part of the job but I also feel sorry for the SW doing/going through all that during the Christmas-New Year period (plus getting blamed, but even without that).

Frederica145 · 17/01/2024 12:22

I don't understand how any mother could not want contact with her child for two weeks. She is entirely to blame, it's not social services fault.

Peteryourhorseishere · 17/01/2024 12:22

The sad thing is, there are lots of single parents that this could happen to.

I met one of my good friends at a playgroup. She had started going and really trying to make good friends after she was running the bath for her one year old, slipped and knocked herself out on the sink.

Luckily she came too a while later and was able to get help and her baby was playing in a cot so was safe. but she said, had she knocked her head and died, no one would have found them. She had no family, no close friends who would notice if she didn’t contact them first. There would have been no one to nice they were gone.

sterli2323 · 17/01/2024 12:22

No they are not allowed to 'just bash in' - thats why she called the police for support as they have the powers of entry... but seems in this case they didn't bother.

sterli2323 · 17/01/2024 12:26

Well it doesn't say that she didn't want contact - it may have been that she was having supervised contact or for some reason could not be in contact with her son. Dad thankng neighbours for support and the arguments and involvement of SS all point to something else going on in the family.

JSMill · 17/01/2024 12:29

Poor little boy was let down by so many people.

Thecatmaster · 17/01/2024 12:32

I disagree. I think that it couldn't have been prevented. Well, not by social services at least. The social worker visited two days later again, reported to police and got hold of a key from the landlord.

The biggest thing that would have prevented this tragedy is 1/if the mother who seemed incapable of looking after the poor child, hadn't had a baby and particularly not with an I'll man in his 60s. But more than that, if she'd actually seen her baby in that two weeks or alerted police if she couldn't access her child.

It's heartbreaking and very easy to think that it could have been prevented, if only someone knew and had broken in immediately. However, social services often find that people are out when they visit. People tend to be away even more over the Xmas period. They can't break into every house. And, whilst one might question whether the baby should have been in the care of his father as he was unwell, equally, does the state really have a right to take children away from parents if they have health conditions? They were monitoring the situation weekly, which seems like an appropriate response to me. I feel for the poor social worker. They are almost certainly a caring individual, doing their job and now being scrutinized in the national press, having discovered a poor baby that died under their care. That must be horrendous for them too.

kerstina · 17/01/2024 12:38

Yes OP that is probably the saddest story I have ever read too. Curled up on his father’s legs. Sorry but I blame the mum more than SS.

Peteryourhorseishere · 17/01/2024 12:38

Frederica145 · 17/01/2024 12:22

I don't understand how any mother could not want contact with her child for two weeks. She is entirely to blame, it's not social services fault.

There must have been a lot more to this story for SS to be making weekly visits or involved at all.

Maybe the mother wasn’t allowed contact with the child.

RootVegAndMash · 17/01/2024 12:39

It doesn't take much Facebook sleuthing to show there were at least two older children. Which begs the question where they were and whether the youngest should even have been alone with dad at all.

I think any review is likely to look at far more than the very recent actions of one SW over the latest two visits.

Mia45 · 17/01/2024 12:42

Of course this is tragic but I’m not sure what else anyone expected the social worker to do, she contacted the police on both the 1st and 2nd occasion she’d not been able to access the property. Social workers and HCPs visit properties all the time when no one is in and in 99.99% of cases everything is fine, they’ve just gone out or their phone is broken etc. Contacting the police would be considered fairly drastic action in these cases and yet this is what this poor SW did and in addition asked neighbours plus she’d had contact only a few days before. To blame the social worker is beyond ridiculous. Do you really want the health visitor calling the police and them banging down your door when you’ve missed her visit because you’re out for coffee and your phone’s on silent just on the off chance you might have keeled over because that’s what can see things coming to with this ridiculous culture of blame. Obviously this was a vulnerable family but she did contact the police!

brightyellowflower · 17/01/2024 12:49

The mother and the extended 'family' have the audacity to say theyr'e distraught. They didn't give a shit about this little boy. Not one shit.

100% the mother's fault and any other family members who completely forgot about him for 2 weeks and didn't think not hearing from the Dad wasn't a problem.

I check on my bloody cats twice daily with the sitter when I go away ffs.

Social worker is not to blame at all. I blame people having children who shouldn't even own a house plant.

Goldbar · 17/01/2024 12:51

This is desperately sad and it's absolutely horrific what this poor child went through, but I disagree that the social worker is to blame. The welfare of Bronson appears to have preyed heavily on their mind to the extent of contacting the police twice and eventually gaining access due to their own initiative by contacting the landlord. It sounds like they tried to do as much as they could but of course had no idea what was really happening.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 17/01/2024 12:51

JSMill · 17/01/2024 12:29

Poor little boy was let down by so many people.

I agree. I think when a child is failed this badly by his own family, the chances of social services getting there in time are low. I have no idea what the situation with the mother is, but it seems she either made no effort to contact the child, or was banned from doing so, or just wasn't bothered to request a police check.

Toddlers are reliant on their parents for survival and in this case one died and the other was completely absent.

TotallyForgettableForNow · 17/01/2024 13:02

Poor social worker, damned if they do and damned if they don't springs to mind!
The 'mother' should be looking much closer to home if she wants to blame someone.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/01/2024 13:07

The daily mail article states the father was severely jaundiced with a pre-existing heart condition. Who just leaves a 2 year old with someone so ill for starters and especially not checking on them every day?

LambriniBobinIsleworth · 17/01/2024 13:07

I mean, surely the other parent is the main issue here?! Why was she not trying to get in touch with her ex-partner in that time... she could have raised the alarm.

DrunkenElephant · 17/01/2024 13:08

ironedcurtain · 17/01/2024 12:20

> Piesse said a post-mortem examination had found that Kenneth Battersby had died “no earlier than December 29”, adding: “It means if the social worker had pushed to get in when she got no reply on January 2, then Bronson would still have been alive.”

Assuming what the mother claims about Dec 29 is true – I remember a lot of blatant misreporting in things like the Archie Battersbee case and the recent one about the girl with mitochondrial disease – are social services allowed to just bash in?

No.

The only agency that can force entry are the police. Missed visits are common, but the SW called the police the very first time she couldn’t gain access and they did nothing.

She called a week later and they did nothing again.

They, and the “mother” are at fault here

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