Amanda and Giovanni

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Apologies if there is already a thread but I couldn’t find one. What on earth has gone on between Amanda Abbington and Giovanni Pernice during Strictly?AA is apparently taking legal action against the BBC claiming she has PTSD.

indeed. Yes, all ladies without exception acted like that. No one ever had any trouble with a rapist or “sex pest” because proper women had real pluck.

@Dotto you've missed the point entirely
It's not about whether you stood on his foot in a high heel, or if you chopped him into tiny pieces, or if you were in petrified silence..
It's the fact that men feel entitled to do this to women. They must be called out.
Women are human beings and shouldn't HAVE to defend themselves

She is standing up for herself though - she's blown the whistle despite known what the likely consequences would be. And it does sound like she stood up to him in rehearsals but to no avail.

Eh? This wasn't me, I was quoting the PP

Oh good lord! I feel like a nana on here sometimes. Apologies!

I watched the interview. The threats against her children were horrible.

You’re so right!

Thanks for the thanks but for some reason,I got deleted by MNHQ, I wracked my brain and can see no reason for this to have happened. There is no way I can find out either, but I’m really annoyed about it as thee was nothing in it to cause embarrassment to anyone.How dare they, when there was nothing in my post to offend anyone! I despair of MNHQ ever using common sense. Now this will, no doubt, be deleted too!
Who are the muppets who mae up MNHQ anyway? 80year old spinsters with nothing better to do? Go on, MNHQ, delete this too and forget all about free speech!

In the forlorn hope that it won’t get deleted (again), what I said was that a senior officer who pressed up against my back while I was dealing with someone at the desk, got more than he bargained for when I stepped back hard onto his foot, in my high heels! Ouch!
I think I also pointed out that in the 70s, should something like this occur, we dealt with the sexpest ourselves, only resorting to management if all else failed. I think this is wat Abbington should have done, not plastered it all over the media.
Now, what was wrong with that that it had to be deleted? Sometimes I wonder who the heck decides it is ok to delete perfectly harmless, and slightly amusing posts! Hope this gets through but I won’t hold my breath!

Yes we all know what you said, dear, no need to say it again. Perhaps it was the victim-blaming aspect of your original missive that broke the rules? I don't know as I didn't report it, however.

I was the one who stood on the pest’s foot. I did not go to management at that point (I explained why in my post). However, he was called out in a way because I told all my colleagues what he had done and they, no doubt, would have told friends in other departments. I did hear on the grapevine that he had been disciplined but how and why was not divulged to us. He suffered though, because he was given the cold shoulder by all the girls in the office, and, I believe, most of the men. He left not long after, but I understand that was already in motion so presumably unconnected.

Apologies. I assumed that, as it had been deleted, no-one would have seen it. Otherwise, what’s the point of MNHQ deleting it?
Oh, and I am not your ‘dear’ and I don’t appreciate being patronised!

Nobody has agreed with you that women not 'sticking up for themselves' in the face of sexual assault are wimps. Your view is unacceptable.

So, you seem to be saying @Ilikeadrink14 that it should be down to indivual women being abused to direct a response to their abuser? The abuser presumably just moves onto women/girls less likely to be able to stick their stilletto in his toes? yay - you've solved male violence!

But....then you go on to suggest that there was a sharing of knowledge amongst women and men about said abusers. In what way is what the women experiencing abuse on SCD different to your approach? Apart from the fact that the women on SCD reported (or tried to) up through the command structure - did you do that - formally? Like AA and others are trying to do?

I did not actually say that, so it was a little unkind of you to imply that I did.
I have no wish to have a disagreement with you (or anyone else) about this so I will withdraw gracefully and go and do something that’s less stressful.

You said, verbatim, in the 70s "we ladies weren’t wimps and tackled sexual abuse in the way it deserved". Anyway, good evening.

I don't get why she shouldn't go to the media. Why do we struggle to pull the creeps out into the light!

Amanda is milking the media big time - endless appearance of her venting her spleen and playing victim. Meanwhile, Giovanni maintains a dignified silence.

If she really had PTSD she'd be unable to make any media appearances (according to my GP sister). And, to compare her stint on strictly with being 'in the trenches' is an insult to all those who fought in wars (and had no choice)

The woman needs help and she now needs to keep quite while the enquiry is under way.

MeToo and BelieveWomen movements didn’t really take root did they?

Why on earth would having PTSD mean you couldn't make media appearances? There have been thousands of media appearances made over the years by people with PTSD surely?

And the "in the trenches" thing has been explained - it's just what you say when you worked with someone like she worked with Krishnan. It was a throw away remark that's now being twisted in the media.

I agree though that she isn't respecting the request to refrain from communicating with the media and I don't really know what to make of that. If she doesn't have any faith in the BBC process then it may just be that she sees no reason to comply - I don't think she's under any legal obligation and if she knows Giovanni did the things she's accused them of then she may just feel she has no moral obligation towards him. I think also she's shaken by not being believed and is trying very hard to be heard. I'm not sure if it's helping her case or not. Some people are becoming more sympathetic it would seem and others less so.

"Meanwhile, Giovanni maintains a dignified silence"

What, publically ranting about her as a "mad woman" to a baying crowd at The Lowry? Liking hater posts on Instagram? Real dignified.

He's a pig.

@Tartantotty I don't think your GP sister knows anything about PTSD.

I have NHS diagnosed PTSD and have been through a course of EMDR and have made media appearances talking about it. I'm not famous btw.

To all those saying PTSD is for traumatised veterans...catch yourself on. Stressful situations come in ALL shapes and sizes, not just war, though war is obviously the most well known. If Amanda found herself in a very stressful situation then she can be stressed and traumatised after it. Nobody is trying to say she's done time in Afghanistan FFS.
Also, anyone whining that Gio was nice to the lovely Rose, Faye etc etc. Have you never witnessed a work colleague, teacher, etc etc that treated one person nicely but was mean to another? I certainly have. At least cut Amanda some slack, other people have spoken up too and if you have half a brain you can see the interview with KGM was not fake.

What is taking so long? This investigation has taken months...