Voting to 'Get the Tories Out'

[DewHopper]

Pro Labour posters are all over this platform telling posters to vote for whoever gets the Tories out. It does not seem to matter who it is as long as voting for them gets the Tories out nationally.

It's a worrying voting strategy from my pov but I tend to vote at constituency level. If I had an excellent Tory MP who cared about the things I cared about and served their constituents well, I would vote for them. Similarly Labour ( I would absolutely vote for Rosie Duffield) or Independent.

Do those people who will just vote for anyone as longs as this will oust the Tories - and what could be a very good MP - ever consider the effects of this locally? They may have got the Tories out at a national level but saddled themselves with a useless MP who does nothing for the locality.

Take for example women's rights. I am a gender critical woman and care very deeply about the erosion of women's single sex spaces etc. I am sure that many of the 'Tories out at all costs' people feel the same. The pro Labour people keep telling us that Starmer will be better for women's rights BUT if you vote on a single issue - getting the Tories out - you may well elect a hopeless constituency MP who is TWAW and who will be standing up to every pro woman move that Starmer makes. I worry that there will be a lot of these in the next parliament.

So should we be voting on the single issue - get the Tories out? I don't think so - AIBU?

I haven’t seen any insults. Only one poster policing the thread, and trying to shut down discussion when it doesn’t go the way she wants.

From the UCL website

A twin room is shared by students of the same gender. A twin room is furnished with two single beds and furniture, such as a desk and wardrobe, for each student.

• Twin (not en-suite) - A room for two single people, with two single-sized beds
• Twin (not en-suite) (catered) - A room for two single people, with two single-sized beds (catered

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/accommodation/about-us/roomflat-types

No I’m serious why complain?

@EasternStandard bloody hell, that’s quite some gaslighting you’re doing. You are the bully on here, do you really not see it?!

@EasternStandard where have I policed or moaned? I’ve certainly pointed out your hypocrisies because you have policed and moaned. Repeatedly.

Bollocks

Posters moaning GC topic too prevalent

In the hope you are still around…
The Tories would leap on any statements about women’s rights/GRCs and their tame press would make a massive deal of it. They would suggest that any part of the policy which gave human rights (not rights to women’s space, rights to employment etc) to trans individuals were ‘woke’ and therefore terrible. They would misrepresent it as they do anything Labour says. They’d even call it transphobic if they could get away with it.
It’s an area that they’ve spun for culture war gain already (cf Black Lives Matter) - to divide people. To take advantage of division.

Note the rooms are single 'gender' not sex.

So it definitely could happen.

No I enjoy the back and forth of opinion. One poster has pissed me off tbh but I'll get over it. 🙂

Jesus. Loads of you one of me..

I’m not that effective 😂

What does this even mean??

Seriously? You and others have a go that threads get hijacked by gender

Exactly this, and there would be all sorts of flak from the Corbynistas as well, creating a huge distraction.

Its happening in unis in the USA where women are asked to share with men. Link below. A judge threw it out even though this person was visibly aroused around these young women.
The USA is down the rabbit hole on this, let's hope that UK universities are better on it but they still do allocate shared rooms (cheaper so this will affect poorer students) by gender not sex.

Anyway I’ve had the Labour posters do their thing

Fucking hell

Getting back to the topic. It’s GOOD women speak up and I hope they continue

OK. Thanks. I hadn’t got round to checking. I’d agree that if they are assigned that could create issues. Are they assigned? Or is it an option a student has to choose/can refuse?
I agree with you that those sort of places are at risk from gender ideology, dependent on the ability of people to choose/refuse.

Still waiting for something resembling a labour policy that you can hang your hat on and demonstrate how they will make a material difference to the quality of life for women and girls...

What are you actually getting for handing in your truth badge?

Posters giving the opinion they’d sometimes like to discuss other aspects of politics? Yes, definitely I’ve seen that.
Moaning? Whingeing? Policing?
No. Giving opinions. You really don’t seem to like women giving opinions unless you agree with them.

I’ve just read that. It says nothing about sharing rooms.

Go ahead..,

Post what you want I will not stop you

Just don’t go on about ‘legitimising support’ or ‘hijacking’ with what I care about

Many universities are captured by trans ideology. Women are told on posters not to object to males in their spaces, and look at what has happened to prominent women who have been banned from speaking about women's rights in universities.

The girl in this scenario wouldn't be able to object until she arrives and is faced by a room with a male in it. Then she has to be 'a bigot' openly by objecting.

How is that right or fair?

Far better we address all of the issues by making spaces single sex.

I am glad that you appreciate my speaking up on the biggest issue that is affecting all women at present. Namely the appalling government we currently have.

Have a look at the website. Policies will come in the manifesto, but the 5 Missions will give you some clues.
They’ll make women’s lives better by focussing in things which improve everyday life, essentially. NHS, education, care, benefits etc etc.

Thanks for posting.

You say your son was applying, were the forms any more detailed?

I don’t think I have had a go at anyone over the conversation direction have I? Happy to be corrected.

I didn’t immediately cotton on that’s what your comment was in context of, no.