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The Epstein list has been released

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KenAdams · 04/01/2024 00:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67865190

Complex set of documents though. Even if you can get on the site it's not easy to digest, so we watch this space I suppose.

U.S. financier Jeffrey Epstein appears in a photograph taken for the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services' sex offender registry March 28, 2017

Jeffrey Epstein: US court releases list of people connected to financier

The disgraced millionaire mixed with figures from the worlds of politics, business and royalty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67865190

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Luddite26 · 04/01/2024 13:43

David Copperfield asked the girl if she knew other girls were getting paid to recruit other girls.

alltootired · 04/01/2024 13:44

So many minimisers on here obviously have not read the documents.

AInightingale · 04/01/2024 13:45

DewHopper · 04/01/2024 13:08

Yes the reins will have been picked up by another horrible man and they will all carry on as usual.

The male sex drive is a force of nature. Some men will stop at nothing and insinuate themselves in anywhere to get their kicks, something the 'be kind' brigade should bear in mind. I've learned shocking things in my own life about men I considered 'respectable' and decent.

unbelieveable22 · 04/01/2024 13:47

Luddite26 · 04/01/2024 13:36

I just feel Charles should not be showing public support for Andrew as he did Xmas day whatever his private feelings. Fragile and this won't help.

And Hilary and Chelsea Clinton writing that book about strong women a couple of years ago. Yuk I just can't stand Clinton.

Andrews behaviour with Epstein has been known about for years and he has been endorsed numerous times by different family members not just this Christmas. Even Mummy helped him pay out millions.

Andrew supported a known sex offender/child abuser and who knows what else he did. Harry wrote a book. Yet who is the one that gets the thousands of nasty headlines and the intense hatred directed at them? Very obvious on the Royal Family forum on here who most are obsessed with bringing down.

BodenCardiganNot · 04/01/2024 13:50

Keeping Mountbatten front and centre indicated an acceptance of child abuse as acceptable practice, both by the establishment and by the royal family.

Precisely. Prince George has Louis as his third name and Prince Louis is right there.

KnowsWhatAGiraffeIs · 04/01/2024 13:50

Interesting that this has come out at the start of an election year and that a former democrat has been accused and Trump (who is possibly running again) seems far less incriminated from what I've seen.
Very convenient timing.

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 13:51

LookingGlassMilk · 04/01/2024 13:01

I wonder who is the 'another prince' referenced in the documents

Could it be another European Prince or a ME one? There are many dodgy Princes out there in the world- Albert in Monaco, the Thai heir etc.

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 13:56

CathyorClaire · 04/01/2024 13:39

But even so, some people will manage to cover up their secret life.

Epstein's collection of pervy artworks were on display and dotted around in his properties yet apparently none of those maintaining an association with him found them creepy enough to cut ties.

He was literally telling them who he was.

Not to mention ' Lolita Express' emblazoned on the plane they all presumably happily and unquestioningly boarded to the island.

LadyEloise1 · 04/01/2024 14:00

There was a court case in Belfast involving Mountbatten and boys from the Kincora Home for Boys.
Does anyone know what it concluded ?

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 14:00

Rosiem2808 · 04/01/2024 13:03

It all looks to me like Prince Andrew has been hung out to dry by anyone and everyone. Let him take all the flak while the real evil gets away under the radar

He is part of the ' evil'. Front and centre. Allowing Epstein the cachet of visiting Toyal residences, sitting on the Thrones at Buckinghsm Palace, having parties at Sandringham and Balmoral. The only difference is that his spectacular arrogance and stupidity meant that he was caught out by allowing himself to be photographed by Epstein and then lying so laughably that he revealed his utter contempt for everyone who pays for his family to sit there.

DewHopper · 04/01/2024 14:07

Reddog1 · 04/01/2024 13:42

I agree. I’ve never been a crown-shagger particularly, unlike those halfwits who travel to London and sleep on the streets before royal events, but I didn’t mind them and I’d say that I was neutral on the royals a decade and more ago. But I’ve become anti-monarchy.

Me too.

SerafinasGoose · 04/01/2024 14:10

deeter · 04/01/2024 13:28

The palace is sick. Those freaks do not represent me.

Hear, hear.

I've been a republican since I was a teenager so I'd never support that institution no matter who was standing at the centre of it.

But, I have to say, the Mountbatten Windsors are particularly poor custodians of their very significant, unearned, unelected privilege.

Matronic6 · 04/01/2024 14:12

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 13:56

Not to mention ' Lolita Express' emblazoned on the plane they all presumably happily and unquestioningly boarded to the island.

The name Lolita Express wasn't actually painted on the plane.

It was a term used by papers/press.

Lwrenagain · 04/01/2024 14:14

It must be surreal as fuck to give Stephen hawking a lap dance, imagine how weird it would be knowing the person you're being paid to obviously fake enjoyment for (not that these fuckers care if you enjoy it), but you're providing a sexual service for one of the most famously intelligent people on earth. You'd be so jaded by life wouldn't you?
"What did you do today trixie?"
"Showed my fanny to the fella on telly who questioned Einsteins theory of relativity for 20 quid, then got a caramel latte".

I know it's been said intelligence and being decent aren't mutually exclusive but being that person dealing with the letchy fucker must be awful, we put intelligence on a pedestal.

CathyorClaire · 04/01/2024 14:15

lying so laughably that he revealed his utter contempt for everyone who pays for his family to sit there.

Not forgetting he used the national service broadcaster also paid for by the same people to do it.

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 14:16

Matronic6 · 04/01/2024 14:12

The name Lolita Express wasn't actually painted on the plane.

It was a term used by papers/press.

Oh was it? I thought I saw a picture of the wing. It must have been a mock up.

alltootired · 04/01/2024 14:26

@Angrycat2768 I totally agree. Andrew just thought everyone should believe him because pf who he is. He could not even be bothered to make up convincing lies.

goodbyestranger · 04/01/2024 14:30

alltootired to be fair to PA I don’t believe that he’s capable of making up convincing lies.

They are all so dim they don’t realise how dim they are.

Lwrenagain · 04/01/2024 14:32

Roussette · 04/01/2024 10:40

Yes. And worse. See below... just a snippet..

He hasn't done anything wrong
Loads of men have sex with young girls
They weren't trafficked, they enjoyed it
Where were the parents (on this thread... it doesn't quite work like that if your mother is a single parent drug addict and just wants you to bring money home)
They were old enough to know what they were doing (yeah... what about the 12 year old twins shipped in from Paris for Epstein's birthday?)

Hiya hen, I saw your post earlier but couldn't find it. My phone took its annual trip in the washing machine last week so I can barely keep a page up.

I see what you're saying about the lack of parental guidance when these kids who have been groomed are very unlikely to have sensible care givers, but as opposed to questioning what we're they doing, my issue really is, what's going to be done? Just because a parent has addictions or low level intellectual disability, regardless of that, if they've willingly known their children were in this situation and allowed it to happen. Not even for personal financial gain, even if it's something less sinister such as they're believing their kids are being given an opportunity because they're not someone who has the ability to assess risks, regardless of whatever the reasons, if they've allowed their children who under their care has been allowed to travel to an island to give powerful and wealthy predators sexual gratification, then something here needs addressing. I'm not even suggesting prison sentences if it's been allowed because of parents being unable to really understand the consequences, but if those parents had knowledge, which in my very humble opinion would have been much harder to hide than grooming gangs in your local community, then society has failed and needs to really do something to ensure this kind of thing is never ever something parents, regardless of adversity or ability, see as acceptable ever again.
Where predators can find prey, as a society we must teach people how to defend. And it most definitely starts with helping those in highly impoverished and problematic areas.

Tldr; we need to improve what we teach people in the most ran down shitholes of society. Knowledge is power ✊

MadWifeInTheAttic · 04/01/2024 14:32

I'm amazed they can both get the leave from their highly demanding jobs.

DeanElderberry · 04/01/2024 14:37

Tldr; we need to improve what we teach people in the most ran down shitholes of society.

You mean like if Earl Spencer had been taught better he might not have encouraged his under-educated teenage daughter to marry into that family?

alltootired · 04/01/2024 14:37

@Lwrenagain Virginia Giuffre had run away from home and was living on the streets.
They hunted for vulnerable girls. This is what grooming gangs do. It is what happened in Rotherham.
Social Services and youth services try to safeguard these vulnerable children, but it is very hard.

DewHopper · 04/01/2024 14:38

Lwrenagain · 04/01/2024 14:32

Hiya hen, I saw your post earlier but couldn't find it. My phone took its annual trip in the washing machine last week so I can barely keep a page up.

I see what you're saying about the lack of parental guidance when these kids who have been groomed are very unlikely to have sensible care givers, but as opposed to questioning what we're they doing, my issue really is, what's going to be done? Just because a parent has addictions or low level intellectual disability, regardless of that, if they've willingly known their children were in this situation and allowed it to happen. Not even for personal financial gain, even if it's something less sinister such as they're believing their kids are being given an opportunity because they're not someone who has the ability to assess risks, regardless of whatever the reasons, if they've allowed their children who under their care has been allowed to travel to an island to give powerful and wealthy predators sexual gratification, then something here needs addressing. I'm not even suggesting prison sentences if it's been allowed because of parents being unable to really understand the consequences, but if those parents had knowledge, which in my very humble opinion would have been much harder to hide than grooming gangs in your local community, then society has failed and needs to really do something to ensure this kind of thing is never ever something parents, regardless of adversity or ability, see as acceptable ever again.
Where predators can find prey, as a society we must teach people how to defend. And it most definitely starts with helping those in highly impoverished and problematic areas.

Tldr; we need to improve what we teach people in the most ran down shitholes of society. Knowledge is power ✊

FFS.

DewHopper · 04/01/2024 14:38

MadWifeInTheAttic · 04/01/2024 14:32

I'm amazed they can both get the leave from their highly demanding jobs.

😂