Genuine question - can trans women experience cramps during their ‘time of the month’?

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This is a genuine question as I am baffled.

I looking on Tik Tok last night (don’t judge me, I’m addicted lol)and I notice on my For You section there is often a trans women doing live Q&A’s. I stopped and watched for a while, out of curiosity tbh as DH has a couple of transgender people in his family and I do try to remain as ‘on the fence’ as possible with this subject.

However, this person on TT said something which does not make much sense to me.

They were saying they take HRT and this gives them ‘a time of the month’ when they experience a very emotional dip and have crying spells and feel low etc. I suppose that may make some sense due to the hormones they take but then they went on to say they also experience cramping during this time and started rubbing their lower tummy in the area where a woman’s uterus is located.
It was difficult to establish why this happens because anyone actually questioning this gets blocked and only those agreeing with them get to stay to ask questions! I appreciate they probably receive some very negative replies but blocking doesn’t answer the questions to people who really would like to know.

I genuinely can not understand where the cramps would originate in a person without female anatomy?

As someone who has been under the gynae department for 20+ years, has had to live their live around horrendous periods, has had endless hysteroscopies and uterine polyp removals, ovulation so painful I couldn’t sit properly, a failed uterine ablation, going through an awful perimenopause and now, at 50 only just discovering this is probably all due to the fact I actually have endometriosis and adenomyosis and have been gas lit for all this time having being told that some women just have awful periods etc, I more than understand where my cramps and pain come from. From my shit malfunctioning uterus and hormones which have never been my friend.

But where would a trans woman’s ‘time of the month’ cramps come from? What part of their body cramps due to the addition of female hormones? I’ve tried googling this but there’s very little. Can the hormones cramp the muscles or bowel in this area or something similar?

Because they are men and arent supposed to have female hormones.

Humans arent Mr Potato Head. That's not how it works.

Humans arent Mr Potato Head. That's not how it works.

This is a very good way of putting it.

Exactly but even with Mr Potato Head, it’s doesn’t matter what parts you stick on him, he’s still a potato at the end of it all!

He’s a potato with a bum flap you can store additional ears in.

Which makes it even more ridiculous that transhumanism views this as some desirable mode of being.

But that’s not what you asked is it?

you asked if trans women can experience period symptoms. There are countless medical descriptions of what happens to male bodies that are given female hormones. Some of which sound the same as PMS symptoms.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/feminizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096

But they aren’t PMS symptoms @MintyfreshSW! 😂 Some women get diarrhoea as a PMS symptom. Does this mean everyone who ever has diarrhoea is experiencing PMS symptoms? What about headaches? Not uncommon as a PMS symptom. But both diarrhoea and headaches could also be symptoms of cancer. Do we say that we’re experiencing cancer symptoms when we get headaches or upset stomachs?

There are only so many symptoms that can be experienced in the body. Most of them can be symptoms of multiple different health issues.

Just read this and it doesn't say what you have claimed at all! Just outlines what oestrogen might do to a male body, that's all. Literally no mention of period pains/PMS etc.

Also uses the ridiculous terms 'non-binary' and 'cis' and then expects anyone to take it seriously.

It doesn’t matter if they sound a bit like period symptoms.

They are not period symptoms. It’s not ‘gatekeeping’ to say that the effects of putting cross sex hormones into male bodies are not PMS or anything akin to it.

There are similarities between symptoms of prostate cancer and symptoms of a UTI. If I find myself needing to pee more frequently, often during the night, rushing to the toilet, finding it hard to pee and then feeling that I haven’t emptied my bladder, then I don’t get to claim I have an issue with my prostate (because I don’t have a prostate). It helps no one, least of all me, to pretend that there’s any possibility of it being a prostate issue - even if I desperately want to think of myself as having a prostate.

The biology of it matters. If men taking oestrogen are getting cramps and mood swings, it’s a side effect of cross sex hormones. It’s got nothing to do with the female reproductive system.

I’m afraid that the majority of the medical profession will use those words as they are considered correct.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8040688/

I didn’t ever say they were period symptoms?

I said the symptoms were the same.

I said the symptoms were the same.

So what?

Because they're blokes.

The symptoms aren’t the same. They’re similar.

You cannot experience uterine cramps if you don’t have a uterus.

It matters was the cause of cramps is.

Your argument is akin to ‘well it doesn’t matter if you put petrol or diesel or even kerosine in your car. It’s all fuel’. It makes a huge difference. Petrol in a diesel car does not function like diesel.

My main question (and the title of my thread) was how can a person born into a male body experience monthly cramps without female reproductive anatomy. I was genuinely perplexed as to how this person can feel uterine cramps without a uterus.

Of course, a person born into one sex and then taking artificial hormones designed for the opposite sex will experience some side effects but can never experience cramps from their non-existing uterus or ovaries.

You have replied quite a bit throughout this thread but never answered that question.

How can a male born person experience monthly uterine cramps without a uterus?

I don’t think they’ve ever called it uterine cramps though have they? They aren’t delusional. They know they don’t have a uterus.

i imagine there’s absolutely a degree of psychosomatic symptoms too.

Are you actually reading these shit links that you are posting? This one is about a handful of women who have periods who consider themselves NB or trans...they have periods because they are women. Do you understand that?

Oh sorry no, there was one fetishist included who claimed to have 'bloodless periods'..and the entire sample was 11 people, 10 of whom were menstruating women! 😂

But they did. They rubbed the area on their body where a female uterus is located and said ‘yes, since taking the hormones I now get monthly cramps’ and then proceeded to say (when questioned) ‘I don’t know either but I can tell you it’s monthly cramping’. They were explaining to the viewers that it was from period pain due to the hormones they now take and blocking anyone who dared to question them.

And yes, it’s psychological/psychosomatic or ‘all in their head’.

It takes the piss out of women like myself who have suffered decades with horrendous pain and gynae issues.

People like this person have no idea what it really is like to be female, absolutely none.

Absolutely no need to be rude.

my link was for this:

They aren’t delusional.

I can't even... 😂

Men who think that they are women and having periods are not delusional. Now I really have heard the lot.

They also report all sorts of other bollocks (see what I did there?) including the delusional bollocks they are now women.

The ones I've met are actually autistic men and the smart ones are grifters.

Well that was not where your link took me. And I am really sorry but men do NOT need period tracking apps to track cyclical patterns when they take the same amount of osetrogen every day. Their hormones do NOT fluctuate like a woman's does! Do you genuinely not understand this or how women's bodies work?

As for the other crap they say happens - I would imagine that taking the wrong hormones for your body may well cause some horrible side effects. That's not a period or PMS though. It's side effects from the harm that you are doing to your body.

Much of this is the fetish though as other posters have pointed out - the pyjama clad pillow fights, chocolate bars and teary rom coms that these creeps imagine we all get up to when we have a fucking period.

Reporting something is not the same as actually having the thing. Using an app is the not the as using it correctly, having a need for it, or having it tell you anything useful.