Should I report this?

[secretsanta23]

At 7:40am we had someone ring our doorbell no less than 10 times and bang on the door. We assumed it was something serious so shot up, put clothes on and went downstairs.

In that timeframe, we heard them try our door handle, bang the door and ring the doorbell several times again.

It was a fucking delivery driver dropping off a parcel.

I checked the security cameras and he did indeed try to see if our door was open.

In what world is this acceptable? Why would you try to see if our door is unlocked? All lights were off and blinds closed because we were asleep!

I'm half tempted to report this. Would you?

I wish I could share the video but I don't want people seeing my home online.

I have no reason to fabricate the scenario to strangers.

He walked up the door whilst on the phone, in no clear hurry. He pressed the doorbell repeatedly and used his POD (?) device to knock the door which was loud.

The then tried the door handle.

He then rang the doorbell several times again and knocked the door with his device.

I am baffled you're ok with someone attempting or even actually opening your door to put something inside. I am not ok with this.

I'm getting snarky because some of the comments saying I'd feel good about someone losing their job is absurd. It's a safety issue. You do not enter someone's home without consent, nor do you try the handle.

TurningtheLightOff · Today 11:49

I try to put myself in someone else’s shoes:

Plenty of people have doorbells that don’t work.

Plenty of people won’t hear the doorbell and/or quieter knock because they have the TV on/loads of kids making noise/dogs barking etc.

Couriers and postmen have strict schedules. They don’t have time to wait for a while for someone to answer the door.

Many people get annoyed, and tell them so, if their parcel doesn’t get delivered and they have to rearrange delivery or go and fetch it from the local office.

People have very different ideas on what is safe regarding where it should be left.

In short, people are fickle and have their own idiosyncrasies. Delivery drivers can’t read minds or pre-empt how someone will respond.

If you definitely don’t want someone opening your door to leave a parcel, and/or you have dogs you don’t want to escape, you won’t leave your door unlocked. So it’s reasonable to assume that if your door is unlocked and anybody can open it from the outside, that it’s okay for the delivery man to try it in order to leave your parcel inside.

Do I like that they try it? No. Would it give me a few seconds of annoyance? Yes.

But I wouldn’t be a) posting about it on a forum or b) deciding it was in any way a good idea to send the company feedback about it because I would realise that MY desires about delivery preference do not automatically apply to everyone else and therefore my singular complaint is specific to me and has everything to do with my preferences and is, in fact, no reflection on the competency of the driver.

There is enough crap in this world without adding to it. Breathe, try and walk a mile in someone else’s shoes, and then go and do a good deed inside. You’ll feel much better.

Shame the guy rapping at OP's door and trying to open it didn't do this, eh?!

Are you deliberately being silly? He may, based on comments from others, deduce that statistically people are far more pissy towards him for not delivering their parcel than they are with him dropping it inside. He may have EXACTLY been doing this.

Or do you think you’re perfect and get things right every single time when you try and think of others?

'nor do you try the handle'

Why not? If you have customers that leave their door open, precisely so that their parcel can get delivered (yes, some people do this), why wouldn't they try the handle to see if you are one of them?

Nobody has an issue with you not wanting the delivery driver to pop the parcel inside the door. But that's why you locked your door. It worked!! Well done you!

@MassageForLife I have my door unlocked during tried day if I am home. If a delivery driver opened my door, I'd go ballistic.

What a weird assumption that all would be comfortable with this and we should allow delivery drivers a free pass.

I get it op, it's not ok. I get irritated when they knock and ring I don't live in the east wing and need to cross a moat to answer the door.sometimes it sounds like a dawn raid! I think the point some are making is that potentially complaining could result in the driver losing his job.

You could contact the delivery company and say that you weren't comfortable and could they let him know it's not ok but that you wish for no further action?

@WildFlowerBees I don't want him to be sacked as others assume.

I want the safety issues highlighted with trying someone's door.

Thank you for understanding.

Let them know, obviously no one wants someone to lose their job however if people don't ever speak up nothing changes so I change my previous response earlier to yes contact them. I got a parcel box which has cut down on so much of the banging ringing or playing hunt the parcel that's been left in 'a safe place'

Looking forward to a thread from someone who doesn't mind this posting that their Faberge Egg they keep on the side table near the door has gone missing 😬

it would not bother me that the postman tried to deliver my parcel by dumoing it inside my door, so it was not left on the doorstep.
I cannot fathom how anyone would be happy with a parcel left on the doorstep. I would be furious with that.
So each to their own.

I think posties and delivery drivers can't win really. Some want them to leave it at any cost, some want it tossed over back gate, others get furious if you do that. But they need to deliver.
And I woudl have no problem with multiple bell ringing, annoying as it is. If I am out, the rest of the house will all assume someone else has answered it, so you need to press a few times.

I make sure my door is locked, because anyone opening my door is going to meet our large, loud dog, and the dog is going to run off down the road in delight at getting out.

You sound baffled at the idea that others think differently to you.
Wow who knew, not everyone feels the same way about things

@steppemum aww thanks.

How is a driver trying your handle a safety issue but leaving your door unlocked during the day isn’t? Literally anyone could enter your home.

and afterwards you'd have thought: oh that was all daft, it was only a parcel.

Or you would have called the police because it wasn't a parcel.

But you wouldn't have left your door open so no issue. Most burglars want the easy route of nobody being in.

top tip: keep the door locked then?

@Brefugee you're smart.

I am.
You are making a massive mountain out of a molehill. Well done. I've been off sick and this thread has reinforced for me that this place can be completely batshit at times. But entertaining with it.

@Brefugee ah yes, my concern for a stranger trying to open my door is batshit. Off you pop.

Hope you feel better soon.

I didn't assume everyone would be ok with this. I did, however, assume that anyone that would have an issue with this would keep their doors locked.

How peculiar that you don't!!

That’s not the same is it? Being ok with someone delivering a parcel inside your unlocked door isn’t the same as being ok with someone stealing your stuff.
@secretsanta23 I'm intrigued by these ‘safety issues’. What are they? I mean, someone coming into your unlocked house to rob/attack you is obviously one, but a delivery man/postie opening the door, dropping a parcel and closing the door doesn’t seem unsafe to me.

@cardibach safety issues.

We have a house cat who isn't allowed outside.

We have a toddler.

We have valuables.

It's our home. Don't come inside or attempt to?!

The safety issue would only be if you left your door unlocked. There's no safety issue trying a locked door.

So I’d assume you keep the door locked then? But you say you don’t. That’s the safety issue, not a delivery.

@MassageForLife nothing gives the right for a stranger to try the door to someone's home unless for an emergency.

Delivering a parcel isn't an emergency.

But surely you keep your door locked so that people can't come in, which makes your concern that the postie tried your door handle irrelevant? I've always assumed that my insurance policy would be void if I didn't keep my doors locked and would never dream of leaving my doors so that they could be opened by anyone without a key whether or not someone was at home.

My husband works for Royal Mail and used to work for Amazon delivery years ago as well. This kind of behaviour would and should be reported. For all the pearl clutchers, it won't get the bloke sacked, but he should have stern words from his supervisor about what is appropriate behaviour. Banging repeatedly on someone's door and attempting to enter their property isn't ok just because they've got a van full of parcels, it's Christmas or it's raining.