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Middle class families seem so much busier in the run up to Christmas

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Santasfakebeard · 26/11/2023 18:51

The mc families in DC school seem to have something on the whole month of Dec judging by the dc's class whatsapp groups. Is it just a middle class thing? Pantos, choirs, concerts, wreath making & mulled wine family evenings, markets abroad, carol singing.
I would love my dc to experience it all but we simply don't have the funds.
Is it just the mc & umc that can afford to offer their dc those festive experiences?

OP posts:
frozendaisy · 27/11/2023 17:22

Bahhumbug23 · 27/11/2023 17:21

Wild swimming? 🤣🤣 A quick dip in the sea is not wild swimming!

It's quite dangerous getting in very cold water if you have no idea what you are doing.

Novelhelp · 27/11/2023 17:25

Ps I once told my in law about the time I went to a panto as a child. She said ‘of course you did, you were rich.’

It is strange how perceptions differ. MIL is horrified that we go to the panto every year. She finds it vulgar/rowdy and sees it as something for uneducated people. She is a snob. And I feel relieved we don’t have to ask if she’d like to tag along.

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 17:27

The idea that MC people have "insider knowledge" is a bit ridiculous. In the age of social media, everything is out there if you are looking for it. If you go to church, you'll know about the carol service, tree light switch on and mince pies and mulled wine on Xmas eve. Churches are usually very good about advertising events too on banners. If you frequent the local museum, you'll more likely see upcoming activities on the notice board, if not you can look it up on Facebook or instagram. It's much more likely that certain people feel like certain activities are not for 'people like us' or simply aren't of interest to their dc.

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feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 17:30

Novelhelp · 27/11/2023 17:25

Ps I once told my in law about the time I went to a panto as a child. She said ‘of course you did, you were rich.’

It is strange how perceptions differ. MIL is horrified that we go to the panto every year. She finds it vulgar/rowdy and sees it as something for uneducated people. She is a snob. And I feel relieved we don’t have to ask if she’d like to tag along.

Our whole extended family went to the panto every year when I was a child as my dgps paid for it. Even back then I remember it feeling quite vulgar!

DrMarshaFieldstone · 27/11/2023 17:30

re: the Nutcracker, depending on where you are in the country may I recommend the excellent annual Birmingham Royal Ballet production? It is at the Hippodrome which is not quite as breathtaking as the ROH but the sight lines are decent from most seats and there is still availability at many performances. It’s the same company that you will see at the Albert Hall.

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 17:32

On the note of ballets, is there any way to watch a show online?

OceanicBoundlessness · 27/11/2023 17:35

For children, CBBC usually have a short televised ballet. It tends to tour the country and the tickets aren't too expensive. I think we period a fiver but that was a few years ago

Novelhelp · 27/11/2023 17:38

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 17:30

Our whole extended family went to the panto every year when I was a child as my dgps paid for it. Even back then I remember it feeling quite vulgar!

And it definitely can be a bit rowdy!

I don’t understand why the tickets are so expensive tbh. The one we go to is a big one but the kids are from the stage school associated with the theatre. The main characters are known but not famous. I find it fun because it’s relaxed and it’s something we started doing when the DC were preschoolers and now they expect to go (although I remember leaving half way through one year as it was too long for them).

OceanicBoundlessness · 27/11/2023 17:38

Here we are. It's the northern ballet and they tour countrywide.
https://northernballet.com

What's On | Northern Ballet

https://northernballet.com/whats-on/newcastle%20upon%20tyne#find-a-ballet

Hummingbird10 · 27/11/2023 17:47

Yes. I was a single mum and we did a panto paid for by my mum and ice skating. When mum died we went just to ice skating, even then the cheaper earlier sessions. I took them to free Carol services and made a big deal out of little things, like choosing a bauble each and getting hot chocolate at a Christmassy garden centre, but diary was not exactly brimming! Not easy, but my kids who are getting older now look back with fondness on it all, although I always had a point about mid December where I would have an annual Christmas cry, just sort of felt like I was a bit alone! I mean I had lots of friends but just felt it. Good luck, I’m sure you are doing lovely little things that will mean so much to your little ones. X

MumTeacherofMany · 27/11/2023 17:52

I find they normally try and and out do each other lol so it spirals out of control. It's a v MC thing to be "so extremely busy" all the time too. Sad really!

OceanSounds123 · 27/11/2023 18:07

I like the lead up to Christmas but we are fairly relaxed about the activities we do.Usually doesn’t involve spending a lot of money.Like other people said,we do the look around the garden centre and go to the school Christmas fair.I also like soaking up the atmosphere in the high street,going to nicely decorated independent shops.
I usually avoid the over priced festive markets.

Curfewgull1 · 27/11/2023 18:09

Not just middle class but some are ‘solidly middle class’ whatever that means! 😀

WrongSwanson · 27/11/2023 18:11

Novelhelp · 27/11/2023 17:25

Ps I once told my in law about the time I went to a panto as a child. She said ‘of course you did, you were rich.’

It is strange how perceptions differ. MIL is horrified that we go to the panto every year. She finds it vulgar/rowdy and sees it as something for uneducated people. She is a snob. And I feel relieved we don’t have to ask if she’d like to tag along.

We've gone to the same pantomime every year since.we were children. My v MC parents (a judge and a doctor, as were their parents and grandparents before them... ) always bump into colleagues there.

but I think it's a theatre that knows its audience to be fair (v middle class large market town)

SerafinasGoose · 27/11/2023 18:18

But ... it's still November.

<I'll get me coat ....>

pineapplecrushed · 27/11/2023 18:21

yep. These activities cost a lot. It's just an Insta competition anyway.

DGPP · 27/11/2023 18:24

pineapplecrushed · 27/11/2023 18:21

yep. These activities cost a lot. It's just an Insta competition anyway.

No. It’s really not

Narwhalsh · 27/11/2023 18:30

I thought I was MC but clearly not then! Apart from the school play and school fair (fundraisers thanks to terrible school lack of funds) we have nothing booked that costs money. My kids are 7 and 5, am I depriving them of something they and I don’t know about?! Im going to make a wreath at home with free bits we find in the woods. I’m not paying £50 to do a ‘class’ or whatever those events are!!!

Kids aren’t meeting Father Christmas, we will spot him from afar at the town light switch on but neither of them want to get up close and I’ve got no desire to push it!

Novelhelp · 27/11/2023 18:31

WrongSwanson · 27/11/2023 18:11

We've gone to the same pantomime every year since.we were children. My v MC parents (a judge and a doctor, as were their parents and grandparents before them... ) always bump into colleagues there.

but I think it's a theatre that knows its audience to be fair (v middle class large market town)

We go to the London Palladium. The market town one must be more La-di-da.

MerryMidwinter · 27/11/2023 18:31

I’m glad much of this wasn’t a thing when my daughter was small, it sounds exhausting. She’s got very happy memories of Xmas though so I guess we did something right.

As so often happens on MN though, my main thought is about class - how the hell do you know?

ichundich · 27/11/2023 18:37

frozendaisy · 27/11/2023 17:07

We, I guess are we MC.

We used to do Santa, what a fucking disaster that was each and every time, the kids hated it, we hated it, but we did it for a bit.

We never did Elf on a Shelf that just seemed nuts.

We have done the occasional ice skating session, again only when the parents could hold onto the "help you stand up seal" did we get anywhere. "Push daddy push"

I have been suggesting we do to London to see The Nutcracker, how middle class is that, the whole she-bang in one swift swoop, expensive tickets, capital city, ballet in sparkly costumes FFS, the whole family look at me like I have lost my senses. I have no idea what the nutcracker is about and thought it might be educational.

We can drag them out for a walk. Once we get going it's generally not too bad. And we have a mulled wine and hot chocolates in our local on our way home. Our local does hang up tinsel and fairy lights it's plenty. (no big open fires mind they just put you to sleep and you don't want to do the short walk home)

Almost every, without fail, craft activity has been approached with the enthusiasm of a wet mop.

The one exception to all of this is panto. We buy the tickets and they are part of the presents. They still like the slapstick and cheeky jokes and tend to side with the baddie!

So that's what they don't/didn't enjoy, basically almost everything.

What they love, still love, and refuse to let us stop because they love it so much, are making "meat buffet items with Dad" on Christmas Eve because he is never around with time to cook with us usually. Mum reading out handy hints and tips from festive murder mystery stories on how I am gathering enough evidence to be able to commit and get away with many festive crimes should the need arise, making sure Muppets Christmas Carol is the last Christmas film we watch on Christmas Eve, opening their stockings in our room.
Playing games together on Christmas Day. And if we have a clear night and are lucky watching out for the ISS or something else fun up in the sky.

Very little of what our kids actually enjoy/enjoyed could be instagrammed, or was anything to compare to others against, very little was the expensive entrance or planning. They don't judge their Christmases by what is in our diary or what other's are doing.

You don't need sweeping gesture after sweeping gesture after sweeping gesture, OP for your kids to have Christmas Magic. Loads of people have loads of christmas magic ready to be swept up steal some of theirs!. A cheap shopping centre Santa, local band/choir singing carols, local am dram or small theatre christmas show, a walk around people's outdoor christmas lights, play some board games together, pick a festive movie that is already free each night.

You can write a letter to Santa and post it, you can make snowball pom-pom decorations for the tree that can come out each year. Make ginger biscuits and let them get icing over every surface in the kitchen EVERY SURFACE. You can have classical FM for the traditional carol music singing. It's actually quite relaxing. You can put together a cardboard box with some wrapping paper and add a few cheap things in their to donate to a local food bank/charity for someone who will have even less than you this Christmas (selection boxes/box of mince pies) and just introduce the kids to remain humble in what they do have or get. There are always people who get less.

Basically we dipped our toe into the MC diary filling activities and events and they just felt shallow, forced fun. Not magical at all. We found our magic by being together and just being ourselves but the fun ourselves giving our kids all the time we couldn't during usual working/school weeks.

I am still intent on going to The Nutcracker at some point, if they all don't want to come I will find someone else who does. But that's for another year.

Sorry, but if you don't know what The Nutcracker is about you're not really middle class at all 🤣. Although I will never understand why in England theatre, opera and ballet is only for educated MC people! By the way you can get ROH tickets for around £12 if you sit in the upper slips and book early. I've set my alarm a few times in the past to buy the tickets the minute they went on sale.

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 18:44

SerafinasGoose · 27/11/2023 18:18

But ... it's still November.

<I'll get me coat ....>

I was in Home Bargains yesterday and they are selling Easter decor.

Ren34 · 27/11/2023 18:49

Ha yes, we booked a few of these kind of things last year e.g. panto and still paying it off 🤣

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 18:49

MerryMidwinter · 27/11/2023 18:31

I’m glad much of this wasn’t a thing when my daughter was small, it sounds exhausting. She’s got very happy memories of Xmas though so I guess we did something right.

As so often happens on MN though, my main thought is about class - how the hell do you know?

How do you know?

You start a thread on MN, tell them a bit about you, your parents and what you value. Within about 3 minutes there will be 200 posts of people arguing that you can't be WC/MC because of xyz. Then of course once the majority decide which camp you fall into, there is a scramble between lower, middle or upper of that class 😊

Tiredandhungryneedwine · 27/11/2023 18:55

I’ve never done it all but this year have decided to just go into town where they have a little fair and stalls, rather than booking something bespoke. Mainly because I am not convinced my DC enjoys illuminated lights etc more than doing this.