Thread 33 Sunak : Sense and Sunakability

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After 10 dyas on the rollercoaster, we now look forward to 5 more pledges and a mini budget

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itsgettingweird

It isn’t a few thousand. It’s 200! This has made me angrier than I’ve been since Thatcher’s days. How any sane person can think this is remotely right is beyond me.

Fair correction @BIossomtoes. I tried to pin down an actual number on google and it bought up results from 200-unlimited. I thought I’d chuck them a bone and discuss this in the context of thousands. Still not worth it, either in monetary value, the country’s reputation or political gain.

It's just a vehicle for the Britannia Unchained mob to take us out of the ECHR.

It's not intended to solve Channel crossings.

When I think of how that money could have been spent my blood boils. Bastards intent of getting their own way regardless of cost or consequence. Didn’t their parents ever say no to them?

I don’t think they were ever told no, Sunak is the embodiment of a spoilt child it oozes from him every time he is challenged, he becomes petulant & defensive.
Mercer was handed his arse on QT last night which cheered me slightly.

Somebody pointed out it takes a huge amount of skill to create a wedge issue the splits your party in two but leaves the opposition undamaged. The Tories are pros.

That reverse Midas touch again. Starmer needs to trot that out as often as possible.

There part of it that would be hilarious if people’s lives weren’t at stake. It’s proper end days of the May government stuff.

I want Starmar to stand up in parliament and ask exactly which bit of the concept of the ECHR, created by their poster boy Winston Churchill and a generation ravaged by war, they’re so dismissive of? The tories need to publicly answer whether the reason they’re coming up against blockades is because history is screaming at them that what they’re doing is just wrong. They’re exactly the ones who were in mind when the ECHR and international human rights were formalised.

Lest we forget. They forgot.

Brilliant summary. I’d like him to do that too.

I don't think Sunak is the least bit interested in sending people to Rwanda or asylum seekers.
The trouble is Sunak doesn't know what he is interested in and so has no coherrent policies.

@jgw1 bet he wishes he’d kept that green card and pulled a Schwarzenegger to scratch that political itch. A nice sedate state. Pennsylvania maybe?

He does give the impression that he thinks he is doing a good job and can't understand why everyone is being beastly to him.

I think the English specifically are more likely to be deferential to status. That only carries someone to a certain point because we’re also harshly critical of any pretenders.

we will accept an ascent to position through talent so if it becomes clear that’s bullshit we tend to want people knocked completely off their perch.

i’m not remotely a Tory but even I was prepared to believe at the start of his term that rishi was a grown up ready to act as a leader and try to balance the demands of the electorate against what was realistically achievable and best interests for the UK as a whole. Within the boundaries of existing laws and international treaties. I thought that last bit was a given tbh 🤷‍♀️

I'm had high hopes for Mr Sunak too, but now he just seems to be a petulant child chucking his toys around
Be glad to see the back of him tbh

Wasn't George Monbiot just brilliant. The applause he got was wonderful.

https://twitter.com/supertanskiii/status/1732887797789299164

Class

"Last night, for the first time in over 20 years, I was on #bbcqt. Someone dropped out the day before and they urgently needed to fill the seat. Though I was losing my voice, I wasn't going to wait another 20 years. You can watch the programme here:"

x.com/georgemonbiot/status/1733040662189166600?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

20 years.
I bet it hasn't been 20 years since Peter Hitchens was last on QT.
And in the meantime how many appearances by Isabel Oakeshott, Farage, Tice etc?

Downing Street says Suella Braverman, not Rishi Sunak, signed off on extra £100m payment to Rwanda 👇🏼

x.com/pippacrerar/status/1733109408383504454?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

The sound you can hear is someone trying to pass the buck.

He's interested in whatever he thinks will keep the right wing onside and get him a few votes. We saw that in the campaign against Truss when he almost seemed to be trying to compete with her in appeasing the right on everything bar the economy.

Only he knows why he thinks that's a more sensible policy than sorting out the economy, employment, health, care, prisons, the court system, education ...

Mines Braverman. Sadly it's a pointless task emailing her.

👏👏👏👏

Mine’s Djanogly, he’s standing down and has dropped even the slight pretence of caring he once had.

I think we had unnaturally high hopes of Rishi because the last 2 PMs were Truss and Johnson.

If we’d had some sort of heavyweight he’d have looked like the waste of space he is.

If we’d had a heavyweight he, Johnson and Truss would never have got near No 10.

I am debating writing to my MP, if I write saying I don't like the Rwanda bill because it won't work, he will probably agree because he no doubt thinks we should just have left the ECHR, so such a letter if carefully crafted my encourage him to vote against the government. Hmm I feel a plan coming on.