I just have no words

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What has this country become.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67321319

I said some people who come here cannot work because they’re not allowed to and cannot claim benefits because they’re not allowed to. So they’re thrown to the wolves.

We need people to come here so we should bloody well speed up asylum claims, send anyone back quickly who shouldn’t be here (instead of putting them in barges or on the streets), and then encourage those who can stay to make a life here.

not make stupid remarks about tents.

It is government policy to process aslyum claims slowly, I think because a hotel owner made them a donation so they feel obliged to spend millions a day on their hotels.

yesterday even

We have had the 5 mist cowardly, weakest, selfish , 'protect the rich at the expense of workers' Prime Ministers in the last 200 years since the Tories came to power in 2010- Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak.

And still the greedy, self-serving amongst us will shout for tax cuts, support Cruella Braverman, demand depletion of funding to public services and vote Tory.

My son showed me a meme the other day.

Capitalist anti homeless architecture : a picture of those benches with arm rests so homeless people can't lie down on them.

Socialist anti homeless architecture : a picture of some houses.

I watched a documentary this evening on Skid Row. I'm guessing some of the issues are the same here in that so many asylums have closed down. People with mental issues are now just given drugs and sent out into society but actually need help.
Obviously this isn't every case, I understand, but will be a good portion. It's all very sad.

I'm sick of Braverman and her ilk with their disgusting attitudes.

But I've come to the conclusion I'm far more sick of the people voting for these people and giving them power. Whether it's the likes of Boris Johnson or Matt Hancock, Rishi Sunak and Jacob Rees Mogg. Or even Donald Trump. People in anyway taken in or aligning themselves with these individuals. The voters are responsible.

We're not North Korea or China, or Russia with their fake elections. We are a (not 100% perfect) democracy.

Banning the use of tents is not going to help. Access to more support will.

@Bemyclementine The problem is, as you said in your post, they have to take the real help before anyone can help them.

I am not surprised coming from Braverman. She is a disgusting vile piece of shit.

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At this stage she is more like a caricature than a real person. Hard to believe someone can be so awful - and yet she keeps it coming.....

^ This.

It's difficult to believe that she means what she says but, I've thought about her being a cunt a great deal and, I think that it's even worse that she's saying these for effect. It's like she's trying to infiltrate the far right. She talks about immigration with such disdain despite her parents being immigrants. It makes no sense other than for me to believe that she has a massive chip on her shoulder and she's trying far too hard to be something that no respectable person would want to be.

To put it plainly, she has sold her soul to the devil.

How are any of those things a consequence of homeless people having tents?

Please don't be so unfair to bitches by comparing them to Suella Braverman. Bitches make loyal and loving pets.

In seriousness, we can criticise this appalling politician and her cruel disregard for homeless people without resorting to misogynist slurs. If we wouldn't call a man something, we shouldn't call a woman it.

She's a ladder-kicker who, despite being the child of immigrants, doesn't want anyone following her parents into the UK. She would destroy wholesale the rights of all of us if she had her way. But she's not a bitch. I'm looking forward to seeing a bitch 🐶this Xmas when I go away to see family. I would be driving home at the speed limit if Suella turned up!

Another thing...when Rishi became PM and brought in the same tossers from the old cabinet, yet had been saying that he would rebuild trust etc, I just gave up all hope.
Other than keeping the far right of his party at bay, I cannot fathom why he'd think we would want her there. Surely there was another option!

I'm in a strange place politically. Can't stand Starmer and Labour's misunderstanding of what a woman is, can't vote Lib Dem because of what they did during the coalition with the tuition fees and I certainly won't be voting for this bunch. I've met so many better people in everyday life that could form their own party. I think that we need rid of the lot of them and a REVOLUTION!

A decade of austerity, and a breakdown of trust in the institutions of the state amongst other things. A serious rot has set in, and its unclear where we're headed. Next year will be 1997, minus the hope. The state has well and truly failed us.

Don't expect a radical departure if this lot get cleared out. They don't have a clue about the required remedies

Well said!

Homeless people need more support for the complex issues they face, not their only shelter taken away from them in winter. Disgusting! The sooner these shower of shites are voted out of government, the better!

In seriousness, we can criticise this appalling politician and her cruel disregard for homeless people without resorting to misogynist slurs. If we wouldn't call a man something, we shouldn't call a woman it.

Rubbish she's a bitch
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Next year will be 1997, minus the hope.

Sadly, I think you might be right there @spookehtooth . I wish Kier were more inspiring and less wishy washy, but I can't wait to get rid of the Tories.

I wonder if we can call her a bastard then? 😂

I'm fine with bastard. Vile, inhumane, and scum are also totally legitimate.

If it's OK to use misogynist slurs against the women we dislike, then it's OK for someone else to use misogynist slurs against the women we like and love.

When someone says it's OK to call a rich privileged woman a bitch, they really mean that it's OK to call any woman a bitch. It's ignoring how those words harm all women every time they are used.

I absolutely hate Braverman and all she stands for, including the pricks that put her party in power.

I have very mixed feelings about this. I work in a library with a lot of patrons that are there all day due to housing issues.

Not in the UK, by the way, but in Canada. My American friends are reporting similar problems in their cities and towns. So I am hesitant to say this is just a matter of particular policy choices by particular governments. Investment in housing is an issue, but I think there is a lot more going on with it, from costs of materials to building regulations, but the number one thing I can see is drugs. The situation with drugs is far and away different than it was even 10 years ago where I am. And in other places around my country, the housing problem has similarly emerged as the new drugs have become dominant in that region.

There is a large portion of the population in shelters, and in tents, who have serious drug problems, or are mentally ill. Tent encampments tend to reflect that in a lot of places, what they bring with them are drug paraphernalia, fights, panhandlers, trafficing, prostitution, and so on. I've known people in low income housing where the tenters in the empty lot behind them would pee against the chain link fence between the two properties, in full view of the people in the houses; lots of tents just abandoned and left to be trash on the ground along with all the other trash from the encampment, and probably one of the worst things I've ever seen was a tent that caught fire because people were cooking drugs inside. (They were also selling drugs from the tent, but the police had been so hounded by the media for dealing harshly with the tents they would no longer deal with any of those problems.)

Banning tents isn't a solution, at the same time, I don't actually think it is ok for people to have this kind of thing going on in their homes and neighbourhoods either. People in that low-income housing aren't some sort of elite profiting from the labour of the masses, they are people in an inner city who want to be able to let their kids in the tiny back yard. The house across from the tent that caught on fire was a woman's shelter.

Even if there was one any time soon the worrying thing is I still am not sure this bunch of chumps would be ousted

The access to more support thing is ... not that simple, I think.

You can support someone all you like, but that will not necessarily mean they can function in society in a way that does not impact others in an unfair way.

And the fact of the matter is that addiction can make people deeply selfish, and they will actively work against their own self-interest in order to maintain access. It's not a kindness to tell people they can't really overcome their background and experiences, it's disempowering and hopeless.

Support has to be the right kind, which seems less and less common, and some people just won't take it. Drugs can be a kind of slow suicide. But that doesn't mean it's ok for it to impact others negativly.

I don't think there is an easy answer, but I fear things will get worse. It you've ever spent time in SF, LA or downtown east side Vancouver, you can see how bad things can get. Its shocking and dystopian, and you can't really believe how bad it is until you see it in person.

I have some direct experience. People need support, and drugs need to be heavily controlled (I firmly believe that a large reason for many of the homeless in North America stems from liberalization of drugs, and the opioid crisis).