I just have no words

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What has this country become.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67321319

"We cannot allow our streets to be taken over by rows of tents occupied by people, many of them from abroad, living on the streets as a lifestyle choice."

See what she's doing here?

How will taking tents away resolve all that?

The homeless will die of hypothermia. Problem solved.

San Francisco should be a warning to us all. Homelessness and the complex factors surrounding it cannot be ignored. I do not want my DC walking to school on roads full of tents, it is a safety issue. I also do not want homeless people penalised for the situation they find themselves in,

I look forward to hearing Braverman's plans to actually resolve these issues.

So many great comments here. I had a brush with this sector when I discovered a young person I knew was street homeless. It is far more complex than the average lay person realises

Cruella is very apt.

Well it's as much of a lifestyle choice as addiction, prostitution, metal health issues and PTSD are.

@SeaPool

Absolutely. Vile, vile, woman. Dog whistle racism.

It’s supreme arrogance, lack of intelligence and lack of imagination to not understand that the choices people appear to make in life are actually the result of all of the advantage or disadvantage that has come their way, ie upbringing, parental mental health, financial resources, education, innate pre-dispositions in physical and mental health, presence or lack of any special educational need or disability, luck, social support, etc etc. As others more eloquent than I have expressed, people who are living in tents have probably experienced cumulative disadvantage over time that has severely damaged their ability to sustain financial and mental good health. It’s COMPLEX and people who can’t bear to grapple with this will unfortunately resort to simplistic ways of thinking that feels more comfortable to them and maintains their position of superiority because they made the right choices rather than because they’ve been bloody lucky enough in the first place to be able to apparently make the right choices.

She is vile. Some people have no choice or feel they have no choice. People will freeze to death.

I mean it’s as simple as this:

“Wow, it’s really cold tonight, freezing in fact, I’ve got really chilled. Must layer up more. Wouldn’t it be awful if I didn’t have a warm home to go to. Being homeless must be horrendous. I wonder why some people persist on staying outside though when there are hostel places available. Oh yes, I read once that those places can be terrible and more scary and uncomfortable even than sleeping on the street or in a tent. Gosh, you must be in a bad place to have to adopt or even seem to ‘choose’ that lifestyle over other things. In fact I can’t even imagine what difficult and frankly awful things must have brought you to that place. There but for the grace of God…. Etc etc”

It’s really not that difficult to reason it through like this is it?

She always has to throw in a good dose of racism.

Of course people would travel from far away abroad to sleep rough on the streets of Britain as a lifestyle choice 😂 As if they couldn't do that in their home country

Nobody wants to see people living in tents along our streets and public spaces. It's intimidating, especially in isolated areas, to come across a tent not knowing who, or if anyone, is hiding inside it. It needs addressing more- but how this is done is complex.

Scarily @Kendodd I think that's exactly her plan

Braverman's career is really a mystery. She wasn't a competent lawyer, and was spectacularly poor as Attorney General. Her history as Home Secretary is essentially one failure after another. The fact that people still reckon she's in the running to become Conservative party leader is a massive indicator of just how desperate they are and how scared of losing the right wing vote.

There are no words - I am concerned which voters, or Tory members for a leadership bid, she is intending to appeal to as the thought that many people living amongst us think the best answer is just removing tents and prosecuting charities that provide them is just awful to contemplate. The best alternative I can think is that Perhaps she gets paid for distracting the public with outrageous statements and hoping they forget things like the covid enquiry, but I think she means them - maybe she’s just allowed to voice them whenever a dead cat is needed 🤷🏼‍♀️

She’s inspired me to make a donation to St Mungo’s. I should thank her for the reminder about the plight of homeless people!

I have worked in retail, and many times I have had to ask homeless people with tent, infested bedding etc to move off of the doorstep so that I can open up the shop. I then have to clean up their vomit, shit and piss from the doorstep.

As a pp said, sleeping rough can be a lifestyle choice, there are spaces locally where homeless people can go, my local council has bed space available in hostels every night. It is a really difficult situation, but until you have had experience of arguing with a drug/alcohol addled man, who refuses to move and then gets his cock out and pisses up the door or the one who pissed into the back of my car whilst I was carrying stock in to the shop then may I suggest you aren’t really fully aware of just how difficult the situation can be. Provided SB is going to put some money into providing safe, welcoming spaces for all those homeless people, then I think removing tents and homelessness from our streets is a good thing.

That’s interesting, FatCat. I lived in central London during that period (the Blair years) & would be out at all times night & day. Homelessness was nowhere as apparent as it is now.

Yeah ,right. All the safe welcoming spaces.

The paper reported that sources had said the plans being considered were for two clauses to be inserted in the new criminal justice bill, which applies to England and Wales. This would target tents that cause a nuisance - such as by obstructing shop doorways.

According to the report, the proposals include creating a civil offence whereby charities could be fined for handing out tents if they were deemed to have caused a nuisance.

Provided SB is going to put some money into providing safe, welcoming spaces for all those homeless people, then I think removing tents and homelessness from our streets is a good thing.

I think that's extremely unlikely.

And she's not going to be removing homelessness, she's removing tents. I see people sleeping on the streets without tents. They're still there.

Provided SB is going to put some money into providing safe, welcoming spaces for all those homeless people, then I think removing tents and homelessness from our streets is a good thing.

But she isn't, is she? Other than not letting them have tents, which might reduce the numbers if we have a hard winter and enough of them die.

Walk down Oxford Street or The Strand and you'll see literally camps of rough sleepers in tents. The vast majority of those people are not British. And by that I do not mean they are not white (before anyone accuses me of being racist), but they are actual foreigners with foreign passports and who don't speak English.

Why cone to this country to sleep in tents? Do we seriously have to pretend the homeless camps are not a blight on our civilisations?

We just need a general election, right now.

This creature has me feeling embarrassed to be a woman, she’s a fucking disgrace

Why come to this country to sleep in tents? Cos maybe that's better than risking your life in a war torn country 🤷🏻‍♀️