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Matthew Perry has died

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catnipevergreen · 29/10/2023 01:48

I'm absolutely devasted if this is true

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MyCircumference · 30/10/2023 14:20

was there a message from his ex co stars yet?

pearshapedmim · 30/10/2023 14:22

MyCircumference · 30/10/2023 14:20

was there a message from his ex co stars yet?

They are releasing a statement altogether apparently

Mindovermatter247 · 30/10/2023 20:51

I’ve started rewatching from the beginning, I’ve literally seen them all 100’s of times, but most of the time I pick random episodes depending on my mood on the day. It’s funny because my aunt and uncle loved friends, they watched it constantly, but I had no interest what so ever. I was 6 when it started and 16 when it finished, I remember it was last day of term when I was 15, in the uk we would always do something fun so they played us friends in one lesson, it was the one with all the kissing, after they get back from london and chandler kisses all the girls after almost getting caught with Monica. I instantly fell in love with chandler. I literally spent my summer watching from the beginning and up until season 9. Season 10 aired several weeks later. I watched Matthew Perry in the whole 9 yards with Bruce Willis, loved it… 17 again. He was an instant hit in my book. I don’t care what anyone says, chandler is the best character on friends. It wouldn’t be the same without him. I love how close they all were. I loved Matthew on the reunion. It was nice to see how even with all he’d been through, he still made it. I read his book and it was brilliant.

GodDammitCecil · 30/10/2023 23:15

Not to be morbid, but I don’t think there would be the same outpouring if it had been (God forbid, touch wood) any of the other core 5 cast members who’d passed away.

That is testament to the man. He was Friends - the funny, loveable one on the funny, loveable show.

wesurecouldstandgladioli · 30/10/2023 23:22

GodDammitCecil · 30/10/2023 23:15

Not to be morbid, but I don’t think there would be the same outpouring if it had been (God forbid, touch wood) any of the other core 5 cast members who’d passed away.

That is testament to the man. He was Friends - the funny, loveable one on the funny, loveable show.

I think it's the other way round, if it were Aniston it would be a much bigger story.

Applebottomjeenz · 30/10/2023 23:22

BoothsChristmasBook · 29/10/2023 21:50

Goodness me. I've come back to this thread to find it overrun with knobheads intent on making it about themselves.

Whatever happened to simply acknowledging the sadness when someone passes?

That's Mumsnet for ya ...who the hell are these dreadful women?! Lack empathy and all me me me

pearshapedmim · 30/10/2023 23:33

GodDammitCecil · 30/10/2023 23:15

Not to be morbid, but I don’t think there would be the same outpouring if it had been (God forbid, touch wood) any of the other core 5 cast members who’d passed away.

That is testament to the man. He was Friends - the funny, loveable one on the funny, loveable show.

I'm not sure. Any of the others would be a complete and utter shock.

I'm not shocked at the news. Even he said himself that no one would be shocked if he died. It's been clear he has been very unwell for years and years. It's just so sad to see someone continue to try fight addiction but it gets them eventually.

And by that, I don't think Matthew relapsed which makes things even more heartbreaking. His body was just so damaged.

There is a part in his book that says he never thought he would get to 50 and not have children. Not making his children say funny one liners to make his beautiful wife laugh. Very chandler like. He wanted that but never had it. He must of been so very very sad.

porridgeisbae · 30/10/2023 23:50

Not to be morbid, but I don’t think there would be the same outpouring if it had been (God forbid, touch wood) any of the other core 5 cast members who’d passed away. That is testament to the man. He was Friends - the funny, loveable one on the funny, loveable show.

Phoebe and Joey were more striking characters. I saw Chandler as more of a supporting character to all the others, but maybe I need to rewatch it.

Some of the other cast have done more in their careers than Perry did of course.

It was always a shock to see how he declined and a shame he's gone now as he'd seemed to have turned a corner for a while.

Antst · 30/10/2023 23:55

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It's not a "condolence" thread. You're not in charge of reactions.

He was his addictions. He said it himself and so has nearly every major report on his death. He didn't try to avoid reality. Neither did his friends or family. The people who are are those who can't separate his role in Friends from him. That's what's sad given his feelings about it.

AllWeWantToDo · 31/10/2023 00:37

Antst · 30/10/2023 23:55

It's not a "condolence" thread. You're not in charge of reactions.

He was his addictions. He said it himself and so has nearly every major report on his death. He didn't try to avoid reality. Neither did his friends or family. The people who are are those who can't separate his role in Friends from him. That's what's sad given his feelings about it.

He said he hoped that people remembered him for more than just friends, he wanted to be remembered for helping others who suffered from addiction because, while he couldn't seem to help himself in the end he did give a hell of a lot of money to try and help others

People are more than their addiction

Antst · 31/10/2023 00:57

AllWeWantToDo · 31/10/2023 00:37

He said he hoped that people remembered him for more than just friends, he wanted to be remembered for helping others who suffered from addiction because, while he couldn't seem to help himself in the end he did give a hell of a lot of money to try and help others

People are more than their addiction

An addict is the addiction. That's what an addiction is. Your comment proves the point.

Yes, at one point, he did provide some financial help for other addicts. Mainly in the form of a house, which he then sold. He also provided non-financial support, like taking people to group meetings.

He was an incredibly privileged man who was handed opportunities even when he was impaired at work. The very definition of the pre-BLM world. People are mourning a TV character, not a person. And the person was an addict.

GodDammitCecil · 31/10/2023 02:21

You keep coming on and repeating the same thing. Not sure why?

He was a flawed human being, who admitted his faults.

Many addicted are not able to overcome their addictions.

We’re all flawed human beings.

Longma · 31/10/2023 07:34

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Newtonianmechanics · 31/10/2023 07:53

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I agree,how awful to not be able to see the humanity in people and not have some compassion for mental health and or addiction.

AlwaysGinPlease · 31/10/2023 11:32

@porridgeisbae

If you thought of him as a " supporting character" you weren't watching it a lot. Absolutely no way is that the case.

At the end of the day to use an annoying phrase, he was an incredible and very funny actor and he was very much loved, by a lot of people. Anyone who can find anything nasty to say about his death probably needs to see someone as they clearly have their own issues.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/11/2023 10:25

Antst · 31/10/2023 00:57

An addict is the addiction. That's what an addiction is. Your comment proves the point.

Yes, at one point, he did provide some financial help for other addicts. Mainly in the form of a house, which he then sold. He also provided non-financial support, like taking people to group meetings.

He was an incredibly privileged man who was handed opportunities even when he was impaired at work. The very definition of the pre-BLM world. People are mourning a TV character, not a person. And the person was an addict.

What point are you trying to make by repeating this unpleasantness. And why are you perpetuating the theory that the addiction defined his character ? Yes, he was an addict and yes, he had privilege. But that privilege was as a result of his own hard work. His addiction was well known and bound to come up in discussion after his death. But it wasn’t all he was - he was a successful actor, writer and producer. He was also a son, brother, friend - and, newsflash, a flawed human being, like the rest of us.

He came across as warm, funny, intelligent and likeable, and because his character on Friends was said to be so like the real Matthew Perry, that’s what most people identify with. Hence the shock and sadness of his passing - the mourning, not of a TV character, but of a real person.

He was open and honest about his addiction, what led to it, how it nearly killed him, and the millions he threw at trying to get clean. He owned it and tried to help others similarly affected, and in the two and a half years leading up to his death he was reportedly finally clean and sober, and in the process of setting up a foundation dedicated to helping those with substance abuse issues.

No-one knows the ‘why’ of addiction. Part nature in the form of an addictive personality, part nurture - Perry had abandonment issues after his parents divorce. And part exposure - addiction to painkillers came after various accidents and surgeries, and there were many who were only too happy to feed that addiction at a price.

Perry helped Hank Azaria to kick an alcohol addiction. Azaria said after Perry’s death that he would never understand why he was able to give up alcohol almost from day one, yet Perry struggled with his demons for years. His privilege allowed him to indulge his addiction without turning to crime, and it allowed him access to the best treatment facilities. But despite that, he struggled for years to beat it.

He spent the last two and a half years of his life, to all intents and purposes, clean and sober and in the process of helping others. Instead of applying tired labels, maybe we should be happy that after struggling for so long, a fellow human being was at least able to beat his demons at the end and perhaps found his purpose and happiness in trying to help others.

PomRuns · 01/11/2023 10:35

Fabulous post @Rosscameasdoody completely agree with you.

Newtonianmechanics · 01/11/2023 10:35

PomRuns · 01/11/2023 10:35

Fabulous post @Rosscameasdoody completely agree with you.

Second this. What a lovely post.

AutumnSolace · 01/11/2023 11:34

Absolutely right @Rosscameasdoody.

MissChanandlerB0NG · 02/11/2023 11:26

@Rosscameasdoody 👏👏👏

pearshapedmim · 02/11/2023 11:47

I am a huge friends fan. This news really is just so so sad.

However, I'm getting a bit frustrated with my social media news feed being filled with sad posts relating to Chandler rather than Matthew. It seems some people cannot see that Chandler is part of a tv programme and Matthew was a real person with real struggles. Which is what Matthew knew would happen when he passed.

GodDammitCecil · 02/11/2023 20:43

Agree @pearshapedmim - so many posts about Chandler, and so much outpouring of love. But where was everyone when he was alive?

Plus, loads of celebrities doing that awful, awful thing of posting about someone dying, while publicising themselves. It’s beyond grim, and I always think less of people when they do it.

They can’t just post a message about the person, and perhaps a photograph of that person. No. They have to squeeze themselves in there. I find it so distasteful.

Every single time a famous person dies, watch other famous people use their passing to post photos of themselves.

A load of people who had a two-bit part with Matthew, or maybe only met him in passing have elbowed their way in, showing off their connection.

Ironically, the only famous people to post about his passing without shoe-horning themselves in somehow, are his five main co-stars. Credit to them.

pearshapedmim · 02/11/2023 20:50

GodDammitCecil · 02/11/2023 20:43

Agree @pearshapedmim - so many posts about Chandler, and so much outpouring of love. But where was everyone when he was alive?

Plus, loads of celebrities doing that awful, awful thing of posting about someone dying, while publicising themselves. It’s beyond grim, and I always think less of people when they do it.

They can’t just post a message about the person, and perhaps a photograph of that person. No. They have to squeeze themselves in there. I find it so distasteful.

Every single time a famous person dies, watch other famous people use their passing to post photos of themselves.

A load of people who had a two-bit part with Matthew, or maybe only met him in passing have elbowed their way in, showing off their connection.

Ironically, the only famous people to post about his passing without shoe-horning themselves in somehow, are his five main co-stars. Credit to them.

Yes absolutely.

I saw a post from one the actors who played one of his parents in Friends (not sure which one) and they referred to him as 'son'. They are only in a couple of episodes. Very distasteful.

Isthisexpected · 02/11/2023 22:35

Yes I hate the "I worked with Matthew on X show when I was playing Y and I blah blah blah "monologues. Just talk about Matthew!

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