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Do we actually know who bombed the hospital in Gaza yet?

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Ididivfama · 18/10/2023 13:10

I keep seeing mixed reports. It’s really unsettling not to know.

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DownNative · 20/10/2023 11:17

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 00:29

Heidi,

You seem like a really nice person, I used to know a blonde haired girl called Heidi in West London during the 90s but anyway....I can assure you that it's not going to be fresh faced nervous kids going in with the first waves. It will be special forces units like Oketz.

War is shit and normally it would be grunts like me who went in to do the dirty work for countries, governments and or corporations, but this is different, these soldiers have an actual cause. They may die scared but they won't be alone and they know they're doing it for the survival of their people. Which is just.

Yes, I'd expect highly trained special forces units to be going in first to start clearing the urban environment. They're skilled in ambush tactics too.

That's why we sent in the SAS, first unofficially and then officially, against PIRA who came a cropper when faced with the big boys.

Israel Defense Force special forces penetrate first with headcam footage sent back to HQ.

swirlingabyss · 20/10/2023 11:52

indefensible behaviour.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 11:58

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 11:46

Israel have now bombed a church. As a Christian I have no words 😥

https://www.reuters.com/world/orthodox-church-says-it-was-hit-by-israeli-air-strike-gaza-2023-10-20/

Did you have any words when Christians were ethnically cleansed from Iraq resulting in 2,000,000 refugees?

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:05

What a strange question?

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:06

The Greek Orthodox and Muslim communities have been living side by side harmoniously in Palestine for years. What’s Iraq got to do with this?

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:09

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 11:58

Did you have any words when Christians were ethnically cleansed from Iraq resulting in 2,000,000 refugees?

I have reported your post.
How very dare you when a church has just been bombed.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:11

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:06

The Greek Orthodox and Muslim communities have been living side by side harmoniously in Palestine for years. What’s Iraq got to do with this?

There are less than 1000 Christians in Gaza and that number gets smaller every year.,

Gruntsandgroans · 20/10/2023 12:11

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 11:58

Did you have any words when Christians were ethnically cleansed from Iraq resulting in 2,000,000 refugees?

It's says a lot about your character that that is your response to a bomb targeting a church that was being used to shelter displaced women and children. You can condemn the actions of Israel without condoning the actions of Hamas.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:12

Gruntsandgroans · 20/10/2023 12:11

It's says a lot about your character that that is your response to a bomb targeting a church that was being used to shelter displaced women and children. You can condemn the actions of Israel without condoning the actions of Hamas.

It's not about my character, it's more about some people care more about some groups than others. The Same kind of people who did that in Iraq are in charge in Gaza.

Gruntsandgroans · 20/10/2023 12:14

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:12

It's not about my character, it's more about some people care more about some groups than others. The Same kind of people who did that in Iraq are in charge in Gaza.

OK. So you are condoning the bombing of a church being used to shelter displaced women and children. The fact that you think it is justified says a lot about your character.

Trulywonderful · 20/10/2023 12:17

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:05

What a strange question?

Not at all if you know the history of the middle east past and resent. Plus there isn't much comment about any of if if Jews are not involved.

Palestinians judging by some of the Islamist rules that Hamas has treated to make are not really die hard Muslims but more born into Muslim families. They told Hamas to stick it up there arses when they tried to bring in hijab and modest dress women plus other more Islam based rules or laws. Each time Hamas has tried to force them to be a more Islamic people Gazens have rioted or thought back in other ways.

All this means that they are not the most Islamic die hards of the Muslim world and can tick along side Christians for the most part. However Hamas leaders not quite as good about their opinion of Christians and only put up with them in Gaza. It helps western image etc.

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:18

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:11

There are less than 1000 Christians in Gaza and that number gets smaller every year.,

I’m sorry I can’t respond to your points as they are quite incoherent.

What has the number of Orthodox Christians living in Palestine got to do with the fact that they have bombed one of the few churches in Gaza?

swirlingabyss · 20/10/2023 12:23

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:12

It's not about my character, it's more about some people care more about some groups than others. The Same kind of people who did that in Iraq are in charge in Gaza.

This is a thread about Gaza, rather than a thread about Iraq. Asking "what about Iraq" is beside the point, whataboutery and a distraction technique.

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:27

Trulywonderful · 20/10/2023 12:17

Not at all if you know the history of the middle east past and resent. Plus there isn't much comment about any of if if Jews are not involved.

Palestinians judging by some of the Islamist rules that Hamas has treated to make are not really die hard Muslims but more born into Muslim families. They told Hamas to stick it up there arses when they tried to bring in hijab and modest dress women plus other more Islam based rules or laws. Each time Hamas has tried to force them to be a more Islamic people Gazens have rioted or thought back in other ways.

All this means that they are not the most Islamic die hards of the Muslim world and can tick along side Christians for the most part. However Hamas leaders not quite as good about their opinion of Christians and only put up with them in Gaza. It helps western image etc.

I posted my reaction after a church was bombed by Israel in Gaza.

I would feel equal pain if a church was bombed elsewhere in the world.

This thread is about the Israeli Occupation of Gaza.

Why am I being asked about any Christian suffering in the rest of this world in this thread?

Please keep it relevant.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:34

Gruntsandgroans · 20/10/2023 12:14

OK. So you are condoning the bombing of a church being used to shelter displaced women and children. The fact that you think it is justified says a lot about your character.

you're obviously just writing anything you want at this stage.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:36

It should be common knowledge by now that if you don't agree with the "I hate Hamas, but" people

Then you will be reported and reported until there are none of us left.

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:37

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:36

It should be common knowledge by now that if you don't agree with the "I hate Hamas, but" people

Then you will be reported and reported until there are none of us left.

I hate Hamas, just as much as I hate the Israeli government right now.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:39

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:37

I hate Hamas, just as much as I hate the Israeli government right now.

You do you, this conversation wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for Hamas.

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/10/2023 12:41

I really don't think the "you must be a terrible person then" posts are particularly helpful.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:43

swirlingabyss · 20/10/2023 12:23

This is a thread about Gaza, rather than a thread about Iraq. Asking "what about Iraq" is beside the point, whataboutery and a distraction technique.

If you don't take in to account the wider connotations of the ME then you have no hope of understanding the current situation or indeed what lies ahead.

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:44

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:39

You do you, this conversation wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for Hamas.

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The Israeli government began their occupation/colonization objective 75 years ago, and have systematically killed and exterminated the Palestinians - irrespective of Hamas actions.

Again your arguments do not make sense.

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:44

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/10/2023 12:41

I really don't think the "you must be a terrible person then" posts are particularly helpful.

Edited

I got told yesterday that "you support the killing of muslim women and children" on this thread, and got reported for my response.....

FreeCoathangers · 20/10/2023 12:45

ideaspls · 20/10/2023 12:44

The Israeli government began their occupation/colonization objective 75 years ago, and have systematically killed and exterminated the Palestinians - irrespective of Hamas actions.

Again your arguments do not make sense.

But it's not as straight forward and as simple as that.

The Arab armies invaded Israel 6 times, for example.

You have zero nuance of the situation.

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/10/2023 12:45

@FreeCoathangers seriously?!
Tbh I just skip over the posts that are shrieking hyperbole and rage. I really appreciate and carefully read any measured and factual post.

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