Thread 31 Sunak: Court, Conflicts and Complications

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The idea that they were laughing at the action taken by the Italian government is bloody awful. It was watching the coverage of the Italian health service buckling that put me (and I'm sure lots of other people) on notice that COVID could have a catastrophic impact here.

I so agree. Watching the footage from Italy with people all singing from their balconies was so moving. And so frightening. For me anyway. I know this will sound pathetic, but there was a two or three day period when I couldn't sleep and honestly thought Covid would see me off and I am really not one to worry about things like this. I'm old and I thought to myself, come on... you've had a good life, accept what will happen.

Because she sounds much more sensible and factual. She came across well.

Yep. We were due to go to the Cheltenham Festival. We cancelled. It was proven it caused a real upscale in infections.

Have I understood correctly that, that is the fault of the pot plants?

It's utterly shameful that they were laughing at the situation in Italy. Like others I remember watching the footage on TV of the convoys of various types of vehicles being used to transport the bodies and the feeling of horror.

DH and I kept asking ourselves time and time again why the hell wasn't our government doing something. All we got was Boris telling us to wash our hands and sing Happy Birthday.

It was crystal clear that the virus was heading out way. If we could all see it then why couldn't they? Not couldn't, but wouldn't. I will never forgive them for the arrogance they showed by thinking that somehow UK was far superior to the rest of the world for the virus to take hold here.

Please do not forget that whilst there was a performance of locking some people up on the Wirral who had travelled back from China, ski holidays in Italy were absolutely fine.

This has absolutely shocked me...
O’Connor presents an extract from MacNamara’s witness statement in which she said the lack of a “female perspective” in No 10 created a problem in Covid policymaking
She (McNamara) suggests there was more focus on issues like shooting and football than domestic abuse or pregnancy as a result.

The very sad thing is... this doesn't surprise me. Not one little bit.

Well it’s not the fault of the person in charge of the pot plants is it?

I understand the pot plants flourished, probably on the dregs of alcohol that they were watered with at the parties.

I remember going for a check up at the hospital in late February 2020 the bus was packed, people coughing & sniffling & actually feeling a bit scared as like many of us had seen what was unfolding in Italy, truly diabolical they they were laughing & Dido’s Cheltenham went ahead as did the Liverpool match in Spain.
I dunno I think I’m past anger just feel like crying as I can’t see how any of them will be made to pay for the the sheer incompetence stupidity & dangerous games they played with peoples lives, utterly shameful.

And yet still there are posters defending them.

Spot on.

It's one of those times the truth is sadly humorous when written down

I feel weirdly relieved because yes of COURSE large gatherings and football matches in Spain were a fucking stupid idea. We sat watching the coaches bringing the fans back from Spain and I was so angry that people had been led to believe it was safe - yet here they were, in masks (apart from the drivers iirc) and a stupid trivial game had helped bring Covid in.
I can’t unpick all the cognitive dissonance we were steered towards, not without getting angry and frankly, I did all my Angry during the lockdowns when my life was put indanger daily in an unsafe workplace. So I’m following the footage in small segments, because this useless shower of shit don’t deserve space in my head any longer, until the GE.

My worry at the time was watching what was happening in Italy and hearing about how dangerous it was and both my parents having chemo at the time.

The worry about them anyway, then their vulnerability, then about whether chemo could continue during the time - and if not how long would it stop for and the impact of that. Ds having a neurological condition and his risk.

Then catching it myself. Struggling to breathe for days and my parents not being able to help me, the worry if I was hospitalised - the worry about who could care for ds.

To find out afterwards all the information about the government ignoring lockdowns, partying, laughing at us.

Well ...... is all I have.

I worked through it (education). I went in once was over covid myself. We worked Easter for free. We stepped up and did our big during holidays and BH so other keyworkers could help run the country.

And they were laughing at us.

I remember the day I realised it was as serious as it was. Lockdowns had been announced to start and the sports club ds was in was umming and ahhhhing about cancelling training that evening and shutting down early. And one of the committee members (I was on the committee) said they couldn't give confidential information but if we had the information she did about covid we wouldn't be even considering running training.

It's was that lightbulb moment about just how bad this was.

And I don't think even then I'd imagined the realism.

And yet - those tasked with governing us still couldn't take it seriously.

That was really hard for you itsgettingweird.

I just don't understand how we could see it but this useless shitshow of a government couldn't. I was gobsmacked that Cheltenham Festival went ahead.. it is at least 60% Irish attending and no doubt they took it back there and spread it like nothing else.
Dido Harding (Johnson's mate, part of the Festival, and the £37billion waste of money track and trace) has a lot to answer for. I wish she could be questioned. But people like her get off scot free

I remember being furious when Cheltenham went ahead. My brother was a bus driver working there and was given no choice but to work.

He was sick a couple of weeks later, but there was no testing then. The person who decided Cheltenham could go ahead, and the football match in Liverpool should be jailed.

She was already known to be hopeless from her TalkTalk days.

My birthday is mid February and remember really thinking whether to visit family who might be vulnerable. I have medical conditions but am not a doctor.

x.com/wsebag/status/1719995259487211930?s=20

What Downing Street was like in 2020 #CovidInquiry

Has he forgotten who was the chancellor during Covid

https://x.com/itvpeston/status/1719786230609481940?s=20

My Downing St is a place where I think people are not just happy to work, they feel fulfilled”

Rishi Sunak responds to claims at the Covid Inquiry that No.10 culture during the pandemic was toxic and misogynistic

Sunak tells Musk he wants people to be more willing to give up "the security of a regular paycheck and be comfortable with failing" to start up companies

https://x.com/Smyth_Chris/status/1720174465529663512?s=20

Be more like his wife?

'He tried his best' The audience is not falling for it

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1720199995528298511?s=20

Jeremy Quinn, "There are things we got right.. Vaccine rollout.. Rishi Sunak's economic package means we've had the fastest recovery from covid.. Boris Johnson had faults, they're going to come out through this process.. But Boris led our response to Ukraine where we did lead the world.. The choice was Johnson or Corbyn, and I'd still rather have had a Conservative government" #BBCQT

Is that our friend from the other thread?

🙄

You just need a bit of family money behind you and then marry the child of a billionaire.

Omg. How out of touch is he? "Give up the security of a regular paycheck", yes, don't worry about the mortgage etc.

Twat.