You will own nothing, seriously?

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Exciting brave new future, isn't it!

lizwatt.com/articles/what-is-the-great-reset/

I give up, honestly it’s not about hiring a bloody car! Or sharing a car, It’s having to pay monthly or annual subscriptions to update the radio, the key fob, etc.
As cars get more expensive to make and profit margins dwindle, automakers are coming up with new and loathsome ways to squeeze more money out of their customers. Subscription-based access to vehicle features, like heated seats or remote-start key fobs, are the latest attempt to charge people for things their car already came with. The question is whether customers are going to lay down and take it.

No, they are car subscription schemes, where you just use any of the cars whenever you like.

I should know better than to engage on threads with conspiracy theorists…

ooooh get her, privileged amongst the plebs, she knows things or would you know🤣

@Celibacyinthesticks so? I am sure you don't need heated car seats if you don't want them.

Sometimes subsctiption stuff can make sense as it means you can upgrade easily and get constant upgrades/repairs. Sometimes it doesn't.

Capitalism going to capitalism. Just choose what benefits you and what doesn't.

Market developments you don't like are not a conspiracy.

And I should know better than to engage with someone who doesn’t read articles posted, here let me help you out so you can understand……

BMW isn’t alone — Volkswagen, Toyota, Audi, Cadillac, Porsche, and Tesla have all dabbled in subscription models for certain options, such as driver-assist features or voice recognition. It’s a troubling trend, considering how much people freaking hate it.

Earlier this year, Cox Automotive conducted a survey of 217 people who intend to buy a new car over the next two years. Only 25 percent said they’d be willing to pay a monthly or annual fee to unlock a feature in their vehicle. The remaining 75 percent said piss off.

Of those 25 percent that don’t mind subscription, the features they’d be willing to pay an annual or monthly fee generally fell into three buckets: safety features like lane-keep assist or automatic emergency braking (although automakers have agreed to make the latter standard in new vehicles starting this year); vehicle performance features, like extra torque or horsepower; and creature comforts, like heated or cooling seats or steering wheels.

I never said it was a conspiracy, I said look at the way cars are heading.

It eon't make sense, once money is only digital, you won't get to choose, and they control your every move and spend, lap it up... and learn when it's to late, canadian truckers know sll snout being cancelled!

Who exactly are "they"?

Probably the people listening to you via your 5G phone signal no doubt.

Is the music streaming model a conspiracy? No, but it's designed to force people to sign up and pay a monthly fee. I don't listen to enough music to want to pay for streaming. I can no longer buy the odd individual track though. I've therefore been forced out of owning digital music unless I break the law and download illegally.

As I said - capitalism gonna capitalism.

Look at the govt having tantrums over the 'economically inactive'. They need to keep people stuck in work. Renting a house and car means you're stuck having to earn more money to pay for these essential things.

Coercive capitalism. There are no choices or other options other than going back to crappy CDs, cassettes, vinyl or breaking the law. That's not choice, it's coercion.

Now imagine doing this with houses, transport, ability to travel etc.

My biggest problem with not owning stuff like books and music, and streaming TV is more about how much information we just give away about ourselves. It's not the same as when you could walk into an HMV and buy a CD or TV box set and basically none of that was tracked back to you. Not that it matters that much at the moment - but in future, what if it does and so much of your life and preferences and habits are known... (would never rent books 😂that's just weird)

I don't subscribe to any streaming services and listen to plenty of music. There is no coercion to use subscription streaming services, it just isn't a format you personally like. The way capitalism works is if there was a big enough market for single downloads someone would meet that demand.

@Mmhmmn You'd never rent books? Never been to a library?

So how would I buy more music digitally? I don't own all the music that I might want.

The choice to buy music digitally has gone. I would need to rent (stream it).

Well what do you want - music in a durable format (CD, vinyl etc..) or digital music?

If there is a gap in the market then someone will fulfil it.

There is a gap in the market, but they can make more money via streaming. I don't want music in a durable format, I want to buy it digitally.

always forget about libraries 😂

£10 a month for the odd song or album which they can remove at any time. No thanks.

I think part of the reason is music is so much more available on demand now many people don't feel the need to "own" music.

I can google pretty much any song right now and play it on the laptop I am typing from. When I was a teen the only way I could play music I wanted when I wanted was to own a tape or CD.

I don't want to drag a laptop around with me. I want music on my phone, not using my data, can plug into my car stereo or wear headphones outside.

Can't be done. Gone. No more availability.