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Black child gymnast being overlooked in medal ceremony?

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Loopylooni · 24/09/2023 10:39

Anyone else horrified at this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12554637/Gymnastics-Ireland-embroiled-racism-row-young-black-competitor-skipped-medal-ceremony-Olympic-champion-Simone-Biles-condemns-heartbreaking-incident.html#comments

Gymnastics Ireland in racism row after girl skipped in medal ceremony

Olympic champion Simone Biles condemned the 'heartbreaking' incident and said she had sent a video of support to the young girl after her parents reached out to her.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12554637/Gymnastics-Ireland-embroiled-racism-row-young-black-competitor-skipped-medal-ceremony-Olympic-champion-Simone-Biles-condemns-heartbreaking-incident.html#comments

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CornishGem1975 · 24/09/2023 16:52

Kjo1977 · 24/09/2023 16:46

Of course she had it! There is no possibility this video shows a woman “accidentally” missing the child out. It was fully intentional and disgusting. She’s lucky to have gotten away with it so easily. Hopefully, now it resurfaced, we will see a more fitting outcome.

This.

You don't just accidentally miss AN ENTIRE HUMAN BEING. "Oh, I didn't see you there".

I normally balk at the 'racism' cries that are often bandied around, but fuck me, this was blatent.

Kjo1977 · 24/09/2023 17:14

Yeah- sometimes it’s not that clear but I will always trust a black person’s intuition over denial, however, there’s no puzzle here. Everything about this is completely blatant for sure.

Brefugee · 24/09/2023 17:16

IvorTheEngineDriver · 24/09/2023 10:45

I'd need more than a Daily Mail story/twitter comments before I believed this.

why? Is it because you're one of those who simply doesn't believe racism exists?

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 24/09/2023 17:30

The only reason why I want a plausible explanation to exist is that I can't/don't want to believe that such sheer stupidity or arrogance can actually exist. It's so fucked up that it does.

Noicant · 24/09/2023 17:34

Thats just so cruel and so unnecessary, poor kid. Glad it was exposed, utterly shameful.

Tremour · 24/09/2023 17:35

Poor child, won't be the first or last time she faces such blantant racism, sad fact right there. Even though I am in my 40s I still get it, random idiot in the street shouting racist remarks, even at work sometimes. A year ago my manager said something to me that was clearly racist infront of the team. Noone said anything. I made a complaint to the senior manager and guess what the response was...Surely YOU said something first for him to say it. Like fuck off!

And whats sad is it just jades you and your thinking and its hard not to start thinking how my manager has a privelege I'll never have in that they will never have to face racism.

defi · 24/09/2023 17:39

Please watch the video again, she actually also teases the child by lingering and looking at her. Long gone are the days when people can use silly excuses when they get caught being racist. Whether people like it or not. Subtle racism is now seen for exactly what it is!

^ imagine what life was like before everything was filmed

DragonFly98 · 24/09/2023 17:49

Mooshamoo · 24/09/2023 12:53

Sometimes medals are not given out directly down the line though. To me it looks like the child's name was not called out. And she gives the medal to the next child.

This and you can see the confusion as she goes backs for more medals.

Mariposista · 24/09/2023 17:49

This smashing kid acted with maturity and dignity beyond her years. I hope it doesn't put her off sport as she gets older.

Kimya · 24/09/2023 18:23

Tjit · 24/09/2023 14:50

Why not now?

Did you ask the same question about those choosing to raise issues now with Russel Brand, why now? Or is it because race is the issue

The whole premise of the 'Me Too' initiative is that people who have been affected by any issue/ previous abuse can raise this with no one questioning them on 'why now'?

Your comment is totally unacceptable!

Actually yes I did.

VeloVixen · 24/09/2023 18:24

That poor kid. She was so dignified though.

Tjit · 24/09/2023 18:24

I think posters on here would be more outraged and able to spot discrimination if for example the discrimination was gender based rather than race

If we saw a video of a team being awarded which was predominantly men and only 1 female, and all men were given a medal for a job well done, but the ONLY female in the team is 'overlooked' as the person (male) handing out the medals was 'tired, stressed or confused' to not remember to give the 1 female her own trophy!

Would this be acceptable to you? Is it as excusable as some of you would like to think?

Is the above analogy more understandable for some of you excusing the behaviour to understand why others may feel so sad about this?

Sometimes 'some' people are unable to understand the pains of others when they are not affected by the issue directly!

bevelino · 24/09/2023 18:29

Clearly a racist element as why else would she not give the child a medal. She needs to be named.

smallshinybutton · 24/09/2023 18:29

Was there any excuse given? Or was it just yeah I'm a racist? Jeez it's awful isn't it

Mooshamoo · 24/09/2023 18:33

Tjit · 24/09/2023 18:24

I think posters on here would be more outraged and able to spot discrimination if for example the discrimination was gender based rather than race

If we saw a video of a team being awarded which was predominantly men and only 1 female, and all men were given a medal for a job well done, but the ONLY female in the team is 'overlooked' as the person (male) handing out the medals was 'tired, stressed or confused' to not remember to give the 1 female her own trophy!

Would this be acceptable to you? Is it as excusable as some of you would like to think?

Is the above analogy more understandable for some of you excusing the behaviour to understand why others may feel so sad about this?

Sometimes 'some' people are unable to understand the pains of others when they are not affected by the issue directly!

I can see it from your side . I really do.

It's not directly affecting us, we don't have to see it, we maybe don't want to see it, so we say it was an accident.

This might help us women to learn why men react the way they do when confronted about sexism. They don't have to see it. It doesn't directly affect them. They brush it off.

I remember being in a group with mostly older men. Two of the men were extremely sexist, making sexual remarks and jokes. I complained about it to the group leader

A younger man in the group, who had actually been my good friend up until that point, totally dismissed what I had said.

We had been good friends before. We went for a coffee after I complained and he was so totally dismissive. I was shocked. He said he hadn't noticed, and he thought I had made a big deal of it by complaining. That I qas the one in the wrong. We fell out over it and I lost a friend.

Now I see, he didn't have to see it as it didn't directly affect him, he didn't want to see itz so he brushed it off.

Mooshamoo · 24/09/2023 18:36

Amy time I have ever complained about sexism /sexual harassment in groups, no man in the group has ever said to me -youre right I'm sorry that happened to you. Which I think I've done about 3 timea.

No they always tell me it's me that's making a big deal.
ive learnt from experience that even if I have a giod male friend, he still won't say that other men are wrong, even if he sees their behaviour himself.

I learnt not to complain as it just doesn't do anything anyway. It makes the situation worse.

Brefugee · 24/09/2023 18:54

Any of my male friends that say that kind of shit to me get short shrift. And i either distance myself from them, or i continue to point those things out.

And so when people from minority groups that i don't belong to tell me about things that happen to them? I believe them and i listen.

Kjo1977 · 24/09/2023 18:55

Exactly this!

Kjo1977 · 24/09/2023 18:57

You are so right! I mixed race- very light skinned. The amount of people I’ve witnessed excusing racism, making excuses, gaslighting and denying racism when I know what they say behind closed doors.

Kjo1977 · 24/09/2023 18:58

Yes! X

Mooshamoo · 24/09/2023 18:59

I wonder if the racism is so ingrained in that ladies subconscious, that she doesn't even really see the child standing there.

Mooshamoo · 24/09/2023 19:00

Also, why is this story on all the news sites. But it is not in the Irish news site. We only have one. RTE news.

It's not on there at all

dearanon · 24/09/2023 19:01

I saw the video on TikTok.

Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

Kjo1977 · 24/09/2023 19:01

I’m not sure but she certainly believes that “subtle” racism is OK. She’ll probably never use the N word but there’s other ways. Racism is illegal- but you have to prove it to get it dealt with. Hence how many “accidents” or “misunderstandings” occur.

Mooshamoo · 24/09/2023 19:05

I wonder why she has not been named. If she was a man she would have been named

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