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So it is Russell Brand

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Gro · 16/09/2023 07:23

The biggest news story of the year is about someone who has already written books about all the stuff he has done. I will be surprised if Dispatched can say one thing I didn't already know.

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InYourRoom · 16/09/2023 21:00

Seems like a lot of victim blaming going on.

StBrides · 16/09/2023 21:01

@fuckssaaaaake I haven't seen a post where you appeared to be vindicating rapists so please don't worry

StBrides · 16/09/2023 21:02

InYourRoom · 16/09/2023 21:00

Seems like a lot of victim blaming going on.

It's much easier for some people to blame a victim than it is to adjust their perceptions of the perpetrator and society in general

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 16/09/2023 21:02

beatrix1234 · 16/09/2023 20:59

lets also not forget that RB has a very very long history of litigation in the last decade with the Murdoch news group.... (and they literally hate each other), the same news group that has decided to Destroy him. Again: I'm not saying that the allegations against him are untrue but....

https://www.thedrum.com/news/2015/04/29/russell-brand-demands-action-against-rupert-murdoch-s-media-empire-ed-miliband-trews

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/05/russell-brand-takes-down-rupert-murdoch-again-suggests-working-people-boycott-the-sun_n_6278396.html

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/milibrand-labour-murdoch-miliband-election-russell-brand-trews

Surely if, as u said, the allegations were true then he would he the one to blame as he destroyed himself. No one else did. I am no fan of Murdoch he owns fox.

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2023 21:03

"why didn't they say something before"

Woman 1. Was 16 at the time. Brand was 31. Mother was aware of the relationship, and didn't approve but since she was 16, the mother couldn't do anything legally. In 2020 she contacted Brand's literary agent, to report the actor's alleged behaviour. A lawyer acting on Brand's behalf denied it. The agent, Tavistock Wood, have put out a statement tonight CONFIRMING that they were told about the allegation in 2020. 'Russell Brand categorically and vehemently denied the allegation made in 2020, but we now believe we were horribly misled by him. Tavistock Wood has terminated all professional ties to Brand.'

Woman 2. Worked with him on Big Brother's Big Mouth. He told her that he was forbidden from having sexual contact with 'anyone working on Big Brother' and asked her to keep her mouth shut. Endemol said they reviewed the contract and the comic did not have such a clause. (I note at this point Rylan had a relationship with a contestant on BB and this was really frowned on and a lot was said about how this was not permitted but Rylan got away with it). She was a runner on the show. He was the star. (Phil Scofield dynamic on power imbalance going on there too.)

Woman 3. Attack happened in the US. She told friends about the attack. He found this out and threatened her with legal action. She never reported it as she was worried about her career. Three sources confirmed to The Times that she had told them about the allegation at the time, and that two other also people knew about it. So a total of five people knew.

Woman 4. Attack again happen in the US. Texts seen by the Times reportedly sent by Brand later that night read:
'I’m sorry. That was crazy and selfish. I hope you can forgive me, I know that you’re a lovely person. X.'
She did not reply to Brand’s text until 10.59am and told Brand that he had 'scared the shit out of me'.
She added: 'When a girl say (sic) NO it means no. Do I have to go and get myself tested?'
Brand replied that he was 'very sorry' and said: 'You don’t need to get tested'.
He promised to 'make this up to you somehow with live (sic) and kindness' and told her he was 'embarrassed by my behaviour.' The Times said that the number used to send the texts has been 'verified by multiple sources'.
She went to a rape treatment centre the same day and went on to have therapy at the clinic for five months, according to documents seen by the Times.
The Times also says that she decided against pressing criminal charges against Brand – but that the Los Angeles Police Department had been alerted to her alleged assault after she attended the Rape Treatment Centre.

So you have:
One very young woman, who DID tell. She was then lawyered by Brand.
One very junior member of staff scared for her career if she reported it in a similar power imbalance to the Schofield saga.
One woman who told five people, and was threatened with legal action by Brand and was scared for her career. This happened outside the UK.
One women who has text messages showing that he behaved badly in someway, records that she attended a rape crisis center on the day of this AND the Los Angeles police were alerted to this.

Why didn't they say something?

It looks from the information that Despatches and The Times are standing by that these women DID tell, but were lawyered, afraid and there seems to be a trail of evidence supporting the fact that SOMETHING happened.

There was also an ex-girl Jordan Martin who said he assaulted her at the Manchester Lowry hotel. This is in print (from 2014) and predates all this.

Whether this legally would stand up in court is another matter, but theres a pattern which seems to have been repeated.

However you cut it, his respect for women isn't what it should be and he has behaved inappropriately on multiple occasions. That alone should be enough to kill his career.

fuckssaaaaake · 16/09/2023 21:05

StBrides · 16/09/2023 21:01

@fuckssaaaaake I haven't seen a post where you appeared to be vindicating rapists so please don't worry

Thank you. Think I was a bit flippant but lesson learnt. Am watching now and it's making me feel enraged already

Charlize43 · 16/09/2023 21:08

Doesn't surprise me. He's always had a very poor attitude to women. Does anyone remember all those vile jokes about Andrew Sachs' granddaughter he made on the radio?

StBrides · 16/09/2023 21:09

Charlize43 · 16/09/2023 21:08

Doesn't surprise me. He's always had a very poor attitude to women. Does anyone remember all those vile jokes about Andrew Sachs' granddaughter he made on the radio?

Yes, him and Jonathon Ross. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Beaverbridge · 16/09/2023 21:10

He, s surely finished now???.

TroglodytesTroglodytes · 16/09/2023 21:12

This documentary has got the same name as the Rolf Harris one, Hiding In Plain Sight.

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2023 21:12

From Wikipedia:
In the October 2014 issue of Vanity Fair, Brand said of the allegations of misogyny made against him: "I have lived a life and had a frame of cultural references that make that charge quite legitimate... But as a person who's trying to live a decent, spiritual life, misogyny is not part of my current palette of behaviors... In a way, redemption is a great part of my narrative. I'm talking about disavowing previous lives, previous beliefs, previous behaviours."

Yeah. Ok mate.

Ramalangadingdong · 16/09/2023 21:13

Charlize43 · 16/09/2023 21:08

Doesn't surprise me. He's always had a very poor attitude to women. Does anyone remember all those vile jokes about Andrew Sachs' granddaughter he made on the radio?

Listened to that again today. It is even worse listening to it today. Can’t believe that Jonathan Ross was involved - his own daughters must have been quite young then,

LegoRobot · 16/09/2023 21:13

and we can all argue properly with the facts that come at 9 but I'm on your side I really am

They were published at 3pm in extensive articles!

ThePoshUns · 16/09/2023 21:15

Why did Bob Geldof call him a cunt? Did he sleep with Paula ?

Stoic123 · 16/09/2023 21:17

Yep - it's that old 'they are out to get me' conspiracy theory nonsense.

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2023 21:18

I bet there is a bunch of other women who come forward over the next few days.

HollyGolightly4 · 16/09/2023 21:18

This is a tough watch

Theyspunawebforme · 16/09/2023 21:19

I wonder why Bob Geldof called him a cunt

MotherOfGodWeeFella · 16/09/2023 21:19

ThePoshUns · 16/09/2023 21:15

Why did Bob Geldof call him a cunt? Did he sleep with Paula ?

He had sex with the much younger Peaches Geldof

MistyBay · 16/09/2023 21:21

He’s gay and women don’t satisfy him. That’s RB.

ThePoshUns · 16/09/2023 21:21

Grim. Well done Sir Bob.

truthhurts23 · 16/09/2023 21:22

did they really need a documentary for this ?

borninthe80esss · 16/09/2023 21:22

I've always liked Bob Geldof.. also didn't realise that Russell Brands wife was only 19 when he got with her.

I8toys · 16/09/2023 21:23

Its all a bit weird the way its been released.

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