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Escaped convict - Anyone else slightly fascinated by how he's escaping capture?

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Malariahilaria · 07/09/2023 12:45

I don't know why but this has captured my imagination. Daniel Khalife escaped prison by clinging to the underside of a delivery van. Now I'm wondering when did he let go? Where did he hide? Is it like the fugitive where he hides in a hen house out house and steals a doctor's uniform from a hospital? Where would you hide if you had to? Where do you get food and water and shelter?

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BarbaraofSeville · 07/09/2023 16:11

Silverdogblue · 07/09/2023 15:45

No. It’s really not easy. Prisoners get scanned in a metal detecting chair which can identify anything they may have secreted. There is very minimal touching allowed between prisoners and visitors, and both are searched. Visitors before visits and prisoners afterwards. That and random searching of both prisoners and cells. It’s really not easy to get a mobile phone or cash into a prison.

And yet it still happens and over the last couple of years, the MoJ has spent millions of pounds on X-ray scanners to try and detect them.

Namechangedtoanswerthisone · 07/09/2023 16:13

It's easy to go 'off grid' if you know how to survive. Preppers and survivalists plan for all sorts of events. One contact on the outside with some clothes, transport and cash and off he goes. Steer clear of towns and cities where CCTV flourishes and you can disappear if you know how.

EasternStandard · 07/09/2023 16:14

Namechangedtoanswerthisone · 07/09/2023 16:13

It's easy to go 'off grid' if you know how to survive. Preppers and survivalists plan for all sorts of events. One contact on the outside with some clothes, transport and cash and off he goes. Steer clear of towns and cities where CCTV flourishes and you can disappear if you know how.

Don’t you think people will try to get him out of the country?

itsgettingweird · 07/09/2023 16:18

I want to know how they know it's how he escaped.

But I'm also assuming he had help

OhmygodDont · 07/09/2023 16:18

I’d surprised if they find him anytime soon. He will already be long gone or deep off grid.

There will have been a lot of prep planning even if he was alone on the escape which sounds unlikely.

OnAMidnightTrainToGeorgia · 07/09/2023 16:19

itsgettingweird · 07/09/2023 16:18

I want to know how they know it's how he escaped.

But I'm also assuming he had help

Guess the straps under the truck give that away?

thecatsthecats · 07/09/2023 16:22

Silverdogblue · 07/09/2023 15:45

No. It’s really not easy. Prisoners get scanned in a metal detecting chair which can identify anything they may have secreted. There is very minimal touching allowed between prisoners and visitors, and both are searched. Visitors before visits and prisoners afterwards. That and random searching of both prisoners and cells. It’s really not easy to get a mobile phone or cash into a prison.

It would be lovely if this were true, but this really isn't the case. I've worked for a prison service provider, and we had to deal with issues relating to smuggled crap - in and out - all the time.

BarbaraofSeville · 07/09/2023 16:27

I know it was only fiction but the episode where Tommy Lee Royce escaped from court will have given an insight into how it is done.

That bike ride was a little unrealistic after a decade in prison as it's a long way, very hilly and road bikes are tricky to ride if inexperienced, but the way that the newsagent was in on it to supply the bike and a change of clothes, with bike kit being a good disguise and kept him moving.

Then he was picked up at the meeting point and taken to a safe house under cover of darkness and 'looked after' by associates. Plus it would obviously take a long time to search all possible properties thoroughly, especially if the suspect is being moved around and taken to out of the way places.

allthedramamick · 07/09/2023 16:32

No. It’s really not easy. Prisoners get scanned in a metal detecting chair which can identify anything they may have secreted. There is very minimal touching allowed between prisoners and visitors, and both are searched. Visitors before visits and prisoners afterwards. That and random searching of both prisoners and cells. It’s really not easy to get a mobile phone or cash into a prison.

It is easy to get anything in if you have contacts & money on the outside. Dodgy prison officers, mostly. How do you think such a large proportion of the prison population develop an addition to spice?

Nolongera · 07/09/2023 16:34

Watch any UK documentary about prisons and you will see they are awash with contraband, cash, mobile phones, drugs.

I have seen a prisoner scanned in a metal detecting chair which found nothing yet he had a lighter and a mobile phone on him.

Drugs and cash don't show up.

Intimate searches are the only way to stop stuff like this and these are rare.

Most stuff comes over the wall in either a tennis ball or a drone.

I have worked in numerous prisons.

Dontcallmescarface · 07/09/2023 16:48

Aren't armed forces personnel trained to escape if they are ever captured or is it just some branches of the military? Genuine question.

McOrange · 07/09/2023 17:06

Dontcallmescarface · 07/09/2023 16:48

Aren't armed forces personnel trained to escape if they are ever captured or is it just some branches of the military? Genuine question.

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No, this is absolutely not true

Dontcallmescarface · 07/09/2023 17:11

McOrange · 07/09/2023 17:06

No, this is absolutely not true

Thanks for answering.

Silverdogblue · 07/09/2023 17:31

Dontcallmescarface · 07/09/2023 16:48

Aren't armed forces personnel trained to escape if they are ever captured or is it just some branches of the military? Genuine question.

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The “training” is called Survive Evade Resist Escape. SERE. Usually consists of watching a video once a year for 99% of the armed forces. It’s about surviving until you’re rescued and trying not to be a POW. Not about living off grid for longer than a day or two.

ASoapImpressionOfHisWifeWhichHeAte · 07/09/2023 17:43

If this plot was in a sitcom you'd think it was far fetched!

Malariahilaria · 07/09/2023 17:58

Hmmmm drones...? A drone flies under the flight radar level doesn't it? Could easily drop a load of stuff to a designated area. Clothes, new mobile, basic rations. Or...and maybe this is a little far fetched but can drones carry people yet? 🤔

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JaneJeffer · 07/09/2023 18:00
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MoonshineandMagic · 07/09/2023 18:09

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AnSolas · 07/09/2023 18:12

Malariahilaria · 07/09/2023 17:58

Hmmmm drones...? A drone flies under the flight radar level doesn't it? Could easily drop a load of stuff to a designated area. Clothes, new mobile, basic rations. Or...and maybe this is a little far fetched but can drones carry people yet? 🤔

Not yet but amazon are trialing package delivery so a private drop of cash/cards and a phone would be possible

https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/google-wing-drone-deliveries-ireland-b1041070.html

Google will use drones to deliver packages in Ireland

The drones will be dropping free gifts off to locals in the north Dublin suburb of Lusk as part of a trial.

https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/google-wing-drone-deliveries-ireland-b1041070.html

needtonamechangeforthis1 · 07/09/2023 18:17

He's almost certainly had help. This will have been arranged and tested. They will have known the route the delivery van takes and blind spots in cctv. They will know how to hide him.
If he isn't out of the country already I suspect he will be very tricky to find. Or he will turn up claiming asylum at an embassy.

Heads are going to roll for this one!

BarelyLiterate · 07/09/2023 18:20

IF he is actually an Iranian agent, it’s likely he will have been transferred quickly into an unmarked van then taken to a safe house where he can lie low & be looked after, or to the Iranian Embassy where he would be untouchable.

Alternatively, he may have been smuggled out of the country, either concealed in a vehicle on a ferry or possibly on a private aircraft.

Or maybe I watched too many episodes of Spooks…

CurlewKate · 07/09/2023 18:30

Interesting episode of The News Agents podcast on this today. Someone was speculating that he would be heading straight for his embassy.

Malariahilaria · 07/09/2023 18:59

McOrange · 07/09/2023 17:06

No, this is absolutely not true

McOrange, feel free to hijack the thread with an AMA, I sense you know stuff :)

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Highandlows · 07/09/2023 19:18

This is why some people do not like Burkas. He can get away wearing one for a long time if he had help outside.

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