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Scariest unknown mystery no 2

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GrandTheftWalrus · 05/09/2023 12:18

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DZbornak · 05/09/2023 22:20

DivingForLove · 05/09/2023 20:14

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Genette_Tate

This is the one that’s always haunted me. How could she have disappeared into thin air in 7 bloody minutes?!?

Horrendous 😢

I know exactly what you are saying, how can anything like this happen in such a short space of time. For example Sarah Payne's abduction. She was playing in a field with her brothers which was surrounded by country lanes, what were the chances of a serial paedophile encountering her? Every chance it turns out. Horrendous.

areyouhavinglaugh · 05/09/2023 22:32

@Hazel444 I used to follow Esther on Instagram and always thought it was strange how she went for a hike and never came back. No sign of her anywhere!

toadasoda · 05/09/2023 22:44

Greensleeves · 05/09/2023 20:16

That's certainly the case for Mary Boyle

And Fiona Sinnott as far as I'm aware. Last person to see her was her abusive ex that she had left after being seriously injured many times at his hands. Apparently she had met up with a new man a few days earlier, and suddenly she disappears?! Its text book. His family provided an alibi.

paulaparticles · 05/09/2023 22:53

Lisa Dorrian. It seems the police also know she was murdered same night she went missing but nothing ever came of it. Her family have a fb page and are still looking.
Was on murder in the badlands.

Louise303 · 05/09/2023 23:10

Jordan Ratcliffe the 16 year old that went missing in 2008 in Manchester City centre. His aunt dropped him at a hostel in the city he promised to call but never did.

mushroommummy · 05/09/2023 23:42

I’ve just read the previous thread, some very disturbing cases. For me it’s Andrew Godden as pps mention but closer to home is Noah.

I live in Belfast and this case absolutely haunts the city. There’s clearly been a huge cover up and there’s so much still to be told and I hope that Fiona gets the answers she so desperately needs. Someone on the other thread mentioned suicide, yes, it’s fairly common in young people in Ireland but definitely not in this case. It’s more to do with the decades of sexual abuse that’s been covered up here that young men in particular commit suicide here.

PPs also mention “the disappeared” of N Ireland. In the north people are very good at committing heinous crimes and never speaking about it again and covering things up. I hope that Lisa Dorian’s family find her and find out what happened to her.

Louise303 · 06/09/2023 00:43

Christine bracken also know. as sister Jacinta vanished in Swansea in 1979 after going to buy an present for her mum. Her bag was found on the beach with the present still in it so it does not sound like she had any intention to harm herself. Some cash and a ferry ticket to Ireland where she was from was found in her room. Suspicion was on a homeless man that she was friendly with but that led nowhere.

Jiasmummy · 06/09/2023 05:52

Very interesting thread.....

MadeForThis · 06/09/2023 09:42

Lisa Dorrian I think the police know that she was murdered by the son of a prominent loyalist paramilitary. But no one is talking and there is no evidence.

Noah Donohue is tragic. Police are either covering up a link to loyalist informers or just simply their own ineptitude. Donal McIntyre is doing a new documentary so hopefully this will get the case some press coverage.

MrsMarkRonson · 06/09/2023 10:46

So many sad stories. There is a woman who lives near where I grew up who has been missing for over a year. She was literally last seen running on the beach. Some of my relatives live out there and and its a well known fact that people know what happened but aren't saying anything. So awful for her poor mother who regularly makes appeals.

Loopylooni · 06/09/2023 12:34

What frustrates me here is cases where people know what happened eg Claudia Lawrence plus a few others but no one is saying anything

Cigarettesandbooze · 06/09/2023 12:37

Some very odd cases have been mentioned. You’d wonder where some of these people have ended up.

SpicyDiana · 06/09/2023 13:20

I've NC because this is very outing and I suspect the girls I'm talking about are probably women on MN now.

When we were about 12, me and three other girls found a cassette tape wedged into a hole in a tree in a field. The label was scrawled with "Harold" in really odd writing. We could make out that it was Harold but only just. We listened to it - It had weird music on it and a man talking in what we assumed was a Middle Eastern language. The talking was only about 20 seconds-long.

To cut a very long story short, we eventually found out that the man was actually talking in Old English, and talking about him loving a swan 😳

A while later, we were learning about the Anglo-Saxons, and it transpired that Harold Godwinson (last Saxon king) was married to a woman known as Edith Swanneck.

Was it genuinely King Harold Godwinson's voice that was somehow recorded, transferred onto cassette and jammed into a tree in a field in 1998?
Probably not fuck that, it definitely was

If not - what the actual fuck was it all about? Who recorded it? For what purpose? And, again, why was it wedged in a tree?

We visited that tree religiously for years afterwards and nothing else materialized.

I wonder who's got that cassette nowadays.

Densol57 · 06/09/2023 13:33

Excellent thread - thank you OP. It took me three days to read no 1 as I read all the links or googled the names.

I do find it very sad that some adults / children get a tremendous amount of media exposure ( MM for example ) yet others get virtually none and why I did not recognise the names. It is not fair.

Whilst not a mystery, one case that always makes me incredibly sad is this case of Steven ( now deceased in a road accident ) who was kidnapped by a paedophile when very young and found 7 years later.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Know_My_First_Name_Is_Steven

I Know My First Name Is Steven - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Know_My_First_Name_Is_Steven

Iamtheonwandlonely · 06/09/2023 13:42

My name is Steven is very sad. But he's a hero for saving the other lad.
His brother is serial killer Cary Stayner.
Wonder if what happened to his brother had an impact on him becoming a killer.

Densol57 · 06/09/2023 14:29

Yes its all so very sad, and I wonder that too - Steven’s father did not seem like a nice man either stopping Steven from having counselling.

Steven was a hero saving little Timmy ❤️

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 06/09/2023 15:07

I think the Panama girls met foul play.

They spent days trying to call emergency services, and not one phone call to try amd contact parents or friends?

If desperate, every single one of us would try to contact a loved one. For help, or comfort, or to potentially say goodbye.

User562377 · 06/09/2023 15:27

I've been watching the Murder in the Outback documentary on channel4 about Peter Falconio. Its quite bizarre.

The truck driver who first found Joanne Lees on the road revealed for the first time ever to the documentary makers, not the police, that he saw a small red car with 3 men, one who seemed injured or unable to stand up. He now thinks this was Peter. But he's never told anyone else.

Is it not a bit weird that he didn't tell the police this fairly important thing?

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 06/09/2023 15:47

User562377 · 06/09/2023 15:27

I've been watching the Murder in the Outback documentary on channel4 about Peter Falconio. Its quite bizarre.

The truck driver who first found Joanne Lees on the road revealed for the first time ever to the documentary makers, not the police, that he saw a small red car with 3 men, one who seemed injured or unable to stand up. He now thinks this was Peter. But he's never told anyone else.

Is it not a bit weird that he didn't tell the police this fairly important thing?

Was he called Vince? I haven't watched the Channel 4 programme but I watched the ITV film from a few years ago that starred Joanne Froggatt.

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 06/09/2023 15:54

RamsesTheChub · 05/09/2023 18:03

Madness in the fast lane - weren't the 2 sisters on the run from the Garda? Never been convinced that chap was killed by the one with him either.

Whether there's any truth to Trance-formation of America (Cath o' Brien's story).

Someone mentioned Melanie Hall on the original thread, this one for me. Not far away, disappeared from town centre nightclub, remains found many years later by the motorway junction (10 or so miles away).

On a lighter note, love lots of mysterious/paranormal stuff... time-slips fascinate me (even though they're probably not real).

I've been fascinated by the incidents of the Eriksson twins since they occurred in 2008. It's thought, though not proven, that they had an episode of folie à deux. Whatever it was, it was utterly bizarre.

User98866 · 06/09/2023 16:18

The lost in Panama podcast is a good deep dive into the Lisanne Froon and Kris Kremers case. Sorry if it’s been mentioned already. I really think the most likely explanation is what happened. That they got lost and into difficulty on a hike. They tried call emergency services which suggests some sort of accident. Absolutely horrendous to think what they went through.

BodegaSushi · 06/09/2023 16:43

KingCharlesCoronation · 05/09/2023 13:52

I posted this on p38 of the last thread. I'm going to repost it here in case anybody else remembers it.

I remember ages ago reading about a baby girl in America, who went missing. Maybe in the 80s / 90s but possibly later.

Her parents were sharing a house with a lady with learning disabilities, who could apparently live semi-independently provided the baby's parents gave this lady a little help with certain tasks. This lady asked if she could take the baby out for a walk in her pram. Her parents said yes. She took the baby for a walk, but returned with an empty pram.

She couldn't / wouldn't tell the parents where their baby was. The police searched a nearby lake. They didn’t find anything. Last I heard it was an unsolved case but now I can't find anything about it on Google. Maybe because of data protection laws or something. But does this case ring any bells for anyone?

Sounds intriguing! Tip of my Crime is excellent and finding cases that you don't have much of a memory for! Just copy and paste this post there Smile

GR8GAL · 06/09/2023 17:46

Hazel444 · 05/09/2023 13:11

I can't believe it's almost 10 years since they vanished, seems like it happened more recently than that.

I would like to know what really happened with Esther Dingley. There was lots of stuff going on in her personal life, it looked like her travelling lifestyle was coming to an end - so did she fall by accident or did she choose a beautiful spot to never come back from as she hadn't taken enough food with her for a long hike or taken the expected route. I guess it will never be known. There were some interesting discussions on the sleuthing forum at the time.

Other mysteries that have stuck with me are Claudia Lawrence, and I can't remember the exact details, but I read about a toddler boy who was out hiking somewhere in the US with his family who ran ahead just out of sight and was never seen again.

There are so many, like a scarily high number, of disappearances like that toddler in the woods. There are people who believe it has something with the underground cave systems that criss-cross the entire NA continent. Lots of these caves are the same spots where most people go missing. Then again, the USA has bears, bobcats/cougars/mountain lions, wolves, crocs/aligators...all of which are expert (and in some cases, stealth) hunters.