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What’s the scariest unsolved mystery you know?

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Mimmy352 · 02/09/2023 18:17

Whether it’s personal or well known, which unsolved case makes your brain sound like dial up?

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ritaqueenofspeed · 03/09/2023 18:31

ritaqueenofspeed · 03/09/2023 18:28

I live very near the place he was last seen. There used to be posters up about him on lampposts for several years, appealing for information. Haven't seen one in ages. Poor man.

Also the coachway is a really odd place to leave someone in the small hours, there's very little activity at that time of night and it's further away from the police station than the main train station which has more transport availability late night taxis etc.

EmmaEmerald · 03/09/2023 18:34

Haven’t read whole thread but just googled Larry Murphy. Bloody hell.

AcesBaseballbat · 03/09/2023 18:34

SurprisedWithAHorse · 03/09/2023 16:46

But if that's what happened, his remains would have been found.

The river seems likelier. Poor boy could wash away without a trace.

The river is definitely a good possibility, but those Midwestern farms are so vast (and much of the private land in the area was never searched), his remains probably wouldn't have been found.

I think a lot of missing people who vanished in rural or deeply forested areas in America probably got lost, died of natural causes, and their bodies are still undiscovered. Kyron Horman's school was located in the middle of a big, really dense forest which wasn't searched until that evening.

There are so many cases of bodies lying undiscovered for months or even years, even after being searched, and the US is just so massive and has such dense areas of wilderness, even farmlands (which of course isn't wilderness) are just so huge.

I found out something creepy the other day - in certain states in the US there's a law known as the purple paint law, where if you daub your fenceposts with a splotch of paint in a particular shade of purple, that means you do not tolerate trespassers, it's a legal declaration of your right to privacy and your right to enforce your right to privacy at all costs, and it's more or less a declaration that if you continue, you'll get shot and it'll be on you because you ignored the warning.

I think there's a huge US-UK cultural divide, in that we live on this tiny very crowded island with lots of green spaces but not vast amount of dense forest or wilderness (Scotland has the most wilderness but also has Right to Roam) so the way we conceptualise privacy is very different from the US which has so much space. And we have so many public footpaths, Right to Roam, etc. Go to any MN thread about farming or just rural life and posters will be complaining about tourists or random people walking on their land or entering fields, trying to stroke horses, etc. In Britain and lots of mainland Europe it's just the culture to sort of regard all rural land as being almost semi-public, regardless of the law. Whereas in rural parts of the US, you just grow up knowing never to step foot on someone else's land or unknown land without permission because a lot of people are insanely protective of their privacy and regard anyone stepping foot onto their property (even just to try to ring their doorbell) as a hostile act.

Large swathes of forested land where Maura Murray went missing have never been searched because the landowners wouldn't give permission, not necessarily because they have something to hide (they can't all have something to hide), but because rural New Hampshire where she vanished is just really infamous for being full of people who are intensely protective of their privacy and very strongly against any form of government interference, and wouldn't ever let police onto their property without a warrant as a point of principle.

LovelyIssues · 03/09/2023 18:37

@ritaqueenofspeed Also the coachway is a really odd place to leave someone in the small hours, there's very little activity at that time of night and it's further away from the police station than the main train station which has more transport availability late night taxis etc.

Exactly. If he was under arrest they would have took him back to the police station. They also changed their statements.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 03/09/2023 18:38

Poshjock · 02/09/2023 22:12

Cruise ship missing persons fascinate me. This is a rabbit hole I have fell down before and was utterly shocked at the amount of incidents on cruise ships. There is no centralised database of missing persons and due the lack of jurisdiction on ships and the smoke and mirrors around flags of convenience - it is impossible to say how many people exactly go missing from cruises. But it is thought to be at least 1 per month.

I remember reading this article about cruise ships when it was first published. https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2007/jan/18/cruises.g2.crime

Gwyn Topham on people who have disappeared from cruise ships

Gwyn Topham on a growing list of people who have disappeared from cruise ships in mysterious circumstances.

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2007/jan/18/cruises.g2.crime

User562377 · 03/09/2023 18:38

Blanketpolicy · 03/09/2023 17:10

The toddler who stayed in the street two down from ours, Sandy Davidson - just 3 years old when he disappeared from his garden in the 1970s and has never been found.

I was around 8 when it happened, we had not long moved into the new build council estate and still remember the searches and parents talking about it, our dad used to go out with our dog along the river/fields. I don't think there were ever any leads to where he might have gone, just theories.

Sandy Davidson. I haven't thought about him in a long time. My gran and his were friends. I think he'd been with his grandparents when he disappeared. My gran never spoke about it, she always said "he's gone and that's that" when I asked about him. His sister was ages with me and I went through a spell of being really obsessed with learning about him when I was old enough to first realise what had happened.
Imagine your child and brother being missing for 40-odd years. A whole lifetime.

Aurelia53 · 03/09/2023 18:47

Not scary, but I'm afraid I die before it's proven that the Harry Markles don't actually have 2 children!

ElizabethBest · 03/09/2023 18:48

Adam
dyatlov pass
the Beaumont children
the Sodder family
Andrew Gosden
Sandy Irvine
Grimes sisters murders

shinytings · 03/09/2023 18:49

wordlesie · 02/09/2023 21:10

My friend at university disappeared. This was 7 years ago and it made the local news then. He took a cab into a park and theres CCTV of him in the cab, then he got out and was never seen again. No trace. We expect he went there to meet a grinder date as it was a popular place for gay men to meet up.

He was an international student from a very poor family from an underdeveloped country and his parents spoke no English. It only made local news for a month then nothing since. His mother was so desperate trying to find him, but ran out of money and had to return home. His father died shortly after. I google his name frequently but theres nothing. No-one is looking for him it seems and it's very sad.

I find this heart breakingly sad.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 03/09/2023 18:50

Pickingmyselfup · 03/09/2023 18:15

That's awful. In my head I just can't see under 16s thinking about it but I did live a very sheltered life without being too innocent. It would never have occurred to me and my friends (I don't think) so young.

As a parent the world is scary.

It's more common than you think, our family friend committed suicide as well as a teen. No idea what the actual statistics are, I'll have a Google.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 03/09/2023 18:53

ONS says the highest rate of suicides in teens for 30 years for 15-19 year olds.

AcesBaseballbat · 03/09/2023 19:00

Aurelia53 · 03/09/2023 18:47

Not scary, but I'm afraid I die before it's proven that the Harry Markles don't actually have 2 children!

Keep the psychotic Meghan hate conspiracy theories to the Royal section please.

ManchesterLu · 03/09/2023 19:01

2B2G · 02/09/2023 18:54

I'd give anything for poor little keith Bennett to be found. It's something I've always thought about. He needs to be brought home. My brain goes into overdrive wondering where he is on the moors

I know what you mean, but that's not an unsolved mystery. You know who did it, you know what they did with him.. just unfortunately it's a huge area to search.

TheFormidableMrsC · 03/09/2023 19:03

Aurelia53 · 03/09/2023 18:47

Not scary, but I'm afraid I die before it's proven that the Harry Markles don't actually have 2 children!

Don't be so bloody ridiculous.

LylaLee · 03/09/2023 19:05

Aurelia53 · 03/09/2023 18:47

Not scary, but I'm afraid I die before it's proven that the Harry Markles don't actually have 2 children!

What? You believe a surrogate was used? Or that they have more than 2?

EmmaEmerald · 03/09/2023 19:15

I’m going to lose my evening to this thread

but the Meghan crap , FGS.

freetheunicorn1 · 03/09/2023 19:19

@LylaLee there is a ridiculous conspiracy theory that they don't have any kids and the kids you see in photos are hired actors... 😜

Museya15 · 03/09/2023 19:20

HolyHellaciousHeck · 03/09/2023 14:53

I don't think Charlene Downes was necessarily killed by the kebab shop men. The 'recording' of their confession was incredibly indistinct. It was like if someone mumbled 'my son's name is Barry' across a room while eating crisps and the police confidently transcribed 'I must buy a parrot' and then expected the court to agree that was objectively what was stated.

Charlene and her siblings were mired in child sex abuse from the start. Horrible men were around them at all times. Paedophiles often lodged in her family home. Other kids in her family had made disclosures of being abused. Social services were involved with the family for years but didn't keep the children safe. Charlene routinely stayed out late, sometimes for days, and was part of a crowd of groomed girls who traded sex for cigarettes, food and cash.

It may be that the kebab shop men killed her but sadly they were just two of the many, many bad men she had lived her life around. Charlene's parents did nothing to keep her safe and plenty to put her in harm's way.

From what i read, her dad used to go down the pub saying he had something to sell, the queue of men at the house was apparently a regular sight. One man from the housing walked in on Charlene who was about the age of 8 in bed with a pensioner naked. There were so many reports about the parents, it was shocking.

Henowner · 03/09/2023 19:22

HolyHellaciousHeck · 03/09/2023 13:38

Re. little Ames Glover, all that's known is that he was reported missing to police. His father claimed he left him unattended in a car from which he vanished. But there's no evidence to say he was in the car that night, and IIRC there were other inconsistencies in the father's account e.g. how long he was away from the car, whether it was locked. IIRC the baby's own mother believed Ames had been smuggled out of the country by a conspiracy of paternal relations.

That's so sad, I just hope he's safe and being looked after somewhere. If alive he'd be in his 30s now.

tanyaturneristhegoat · 03/09/2023 19:22

Sorry haven’t read all the thread. I’m Welsh and there’s 2 localish ones to me that I always think of - Jordan Moray & Lorraine Rideout. Both disappeared without a trace in the middle of the day. Also before my time Richey from the Manics.

Ilovecleaning · 03/09/2023 19:24

Mimmy352 · 02/09/2023 18:21

I’ll start with mine: Spontaneous Combustion. Part of me is like there’s no way, but how are whole bodies found burned to a crisp without anything else around them being at the very least scorched. You can’t burn a body and THEN move it, so what happened?

I’ve read that spontaneous combustion is an urban myth.

Mimmy352 · 03/09/2023 19:25

I’ve seen some people mention starting a topic based around the strange, dark and mysterious. I know there’s a creepy and unexplained thread, but what if we had a whole topic for it? Clearly 600+ people on here would be interested in this sort of thing, and it could potentially raise awareness for some things.

Reddit has threads like this, as does many other sites. How would one go about introducing one here?

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Riverlee · 03/09/2023 19:25

idontwanttoplayanymore · 03/09/2023 18:00

Daniel Entwistle, 7 year old boy vanished without a trace in Great Yarmouth
back in 2003.

Was that the one when they found a bike? I didn’t realise he’d never been found. We were on holiday in that area at that time.

DungballInADress · 03/09/2023 19:26

Lots of the ones I recall are on here but I am SO glad someone has debunked Spontaneous Human Combustion because I too was terrified by that (and by that leg in front of the fire picture) for YEARS.

Keith Bennett - his Mum always broke my heart, never knowing where his body was
Nicola Payne in Coventry
Adam, the Torso in the Thames
Tiffany Valiente (from the Unsolved Mysteries netflix series)
Biggie & Tupac

Theres loads more - I LOVE a docuseries/podcast

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