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What’s the scariest unsolved mystery you know?

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Mimmy352 · 02/09/2023 18:17

Whether it’s personal or well known, which unsolved case makes your brain sound like dial up?

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SurprisedWithAHorse · 03/09/2023 10:20

DZbornak · 03/09/2023 09:55

@CaveMum
The Cheryl Grimmer case is basically solved I think, just insufficient evidence for a conviction. The suspect admitted it.

How is an admission not enough evidence for a conviction?

Starlia · 03/09/2023 10:23

Pushkinini · 03/09/2023 09:13

I've been following this case and the podcast for years. I really hope Sally Leydon gets some answers once the coroner reports her findings.

I think the main suspect in this case is guilty. I wonder if she stood up to him and threatened to go to the police or expose him in some way, and there was a confrontation. The history of that guy is outrageous, and he was never charged or punished for any of his crimes.
I also wonder if there are other victims we don’t know about.

Jackienory · 03/09/2023 10:25

Malaysia Airlines flight 370 and spontaneous human combustion is the wick effect. You can prove this with a slaughtered pig.

VictoriaVenkman · 03/09/2023 10:28

With Claudia Lawrence the Police have said they believe that some of those close to Claudia have lied to them and won't say what actually happened as this would reveal things in their own lives they do not want known. Poor Claudia and her family.

Gymmum82 · 03/09/2023 10:36

Claudia Lawrence is the one that gets me. Her so called friends know what happened to her but are refusing to say. How they can live with themselves is beyond me.

Museya15 · 03/09/2023 10:38

irishfeminist · 03/09/2023 10:08

I wonder about the poster in the other thread that some people thought was Ruth Wilson. Why would she be worried about her children's lives and safety all these years on? RW was almost 17 when she disappeared, so even if she had an unhappy home life, could leave soon enough without changing her identity and make a life for herself far away. The poster mentions being able to wear what she likes and go where she likes, which also struck me as an odd thing for an adult woman to say. It sounds more like an oppressive cultural/religious background with the threat of so-called honour based violence. I hope she is doing ok.

There was a lot to the Ruth Wilson case that points to her suicide, very little was revealed by the police at the request of her family. If you went deep into those woods she vanished in, experts said it would be nigh on impossible to find her. The police found empty pill boxes, alcohol bottles and I think their was a note left to her dad.

CoffeeCantata · 03/09/2023 10:41

MansfieldLark · Yesterday 19:05
Jonbenet Ramsey. Poor poor child. 😢

Yes - an intriguing case for many reasons. I think it's pretty much accepted that the older brother killed her (probably accidentally - a game that went too far) and the parents conspired to conceal this. There are several docs on YouTube.

The older brother seems to have issues - and the 'ransom note' has been convincingly discredited. The recording of the initial phone call to the police is also incriminating because of what you can hear in the background.

A horrible case all round, though.

Dontcallmescarface · 03/09/2023 10:43

CaveMum · 02/09/2023 19:02

Spontaneous human combustion doesn’t exist. It’s something called “the wick effect” and is usually started by a cigarette, open fire, etc.

One case that sticks in my mind since reading about it, is that of Cheryl Grimmer who was 3 years old when she went missing on an Australian beach in 1970. She was with her 7yo brother at the time and to this day he, Ricki, blames himself for what happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-60219183

Only started reading the thread but we lived near Fairy Meadow at the time Cheryl Grimmer was taken. It shook the British community (many had gone on the "£10 Pom scheme), and quite a few returned to the UK soon after. We stayed for a couple of years afterwards but the whole placed seemed to change.

HuwEdwardsBottom · 03/09/2023 10:49

Murder of Jill Dando. None of it makes any sense. It was clearly a professional hit job. Why her?

DZbornak · 03/09/2023 10:49

@SurprisedWithAHorse
It was ruled inadmissible as he was 17 when he made the confession and no parent or guardian was present.

MoreCraicPlease · 03/09/2023 10:50

Quite a few women have gone missing in the east of Ireland over several decades. In some there are strong suspects but incompetence from the Gardai meant no convictions.

In others, it’s a total mystery:

  • Deirdre Jacob went to a village bank in Co Kildare to pay for her nursing accommodation in London and was never seen again; presume murdered
  • Jojo Dullard: hitchhiking to Wicklow and went missing on the final leg
  • Annie McCarrick: an American living in Dublin who went hiking and wnt missing, now presumed murdered.

I guess women go missing all the time and are murdered but Ireland is a small country where people tend to know everyone around. How these things happen and no-one knows anything is a mystery.

DZbornak · 03/09/2023 10:51

@HuwEdwardsBottom
One theory is that she was trying to investigate a possible paedophile ring at the BBC.

cantstaymadatyou · 03/09/2023 10:54

HuwEdwardsBottom · 03/09/2023 10:49

Murder of Jill Dando. None of it makes any sense. It was clearly a professional hit job. Why her?

There are a bunch of conspiracy theories about this. One was that she was trying to expose paedos at the BBC. She also fronted a Kosovo appeal and some people believe she was killed for political reasons. I think she was killed due to her work on Crimewatch. Pissed off the wrong criminal gang or something. Her murder was very much like an execution.

DZbornak · 03/09/2023 10:55

@ZeldaWillTellYourFortune
I'm honestly convinced that JonBenet's brother killed her by striking her on the head, accidentally or not, and their parents covered it up. Agree that there was no intruder. He was heard in the background of the 911 call when the parents insisted he was in bed.

LakieLady · 03/09/2023 10:56

JohnNolan · 02/09/2023 19:27

Suzy Lamplugh and Claudia Lawrence. I think that there have been no bodies found must make it even harder for their families.

Suzy Lamplugh's parents have passed away now. Her case always sticks in my mind: she lived in the same road in Putney as some friends of mine, and up until 18 months before she disappeared, I worked as a negotiator, too. I used to do viewings with male buyers all the time and it never occurred to me to think it might be risky.

Iirc, the police think she was probably murdered by a man called John Cannan who is currently in prison for rape and/or murder, but iirc he'll be eligible for parole some time soon

IrresponsiblyCertainAboutSexualDimorphism · 03/09/2023 11:02

AccidentallyFabulous · 03/09/2023 00:09

Currently, how 18year old ds has managed to lose his house key after locking the door on the inside when he got home.

It’s in the fridge or freezer. He went looking for snackage when he got home…

AcesBaseballbat · 03/09/2023 11:04

JonBenet Ramsey didn't die from being struck on the head. The official cause of death was strangulation via ligature. You do not accidentally build a device and put it around someone's neck and strangle them.

The only reason people believe Burke is guilty is because of his flat affect and behaviour in that interview, before the interview the BDI theory was not especially widespread.

It's not impossible that Burke killed her but it's unlikely. The parents sent him away to a friend's house straight away and didn't seem worried about him telling anyone.

The autopsy showed that JonBenet had been serially sexually abused, which for me is the biggest piece of evidence and points to an adult man who had regular access to her (which would seem to rule out a stranger).

On the other hand, it's perhaps dangerous to assume that whoever was regularly abusing her killed her. The two girls murdered at Delphi were chatting online with a pedophile and it turned out he wasn't involved at all, it was just bad luck that they'd come in contact with two separate and unrelated predators.

CornishGem1975 · 03/09/2023 11:04

Patrick Warren and David Spencer. Families completely let down because they were from a poorer area/demographic.

Nicola Payne in Coventry.

BlueBlubbaWhale · 03/09/2023 11:07

Also the scientist guy who was said to have committed suicide but everyone thought he'd been murdered. Ian Kelly?

AcesBaseballbat · 03/09/2023 11:09

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/09/2023 09:53

I don’t think Dyatlov Pass is baffling at all, an avalanche explains everything and some experts think one was possible in that area. The bits missing from the bodies is typical of what scavenging animals and birds do. It’s only if you believe the people who say it can’t have been an avalanche that you have to start looking for weirder reasons.

I think it's more likely to be a Karman vortex street than an avalanche but I agree that it was caused by a natural phenomena and not anything spooky or criminal.

A lot of the details that make it sound spooky were invented years after the fact and don't appear in any of the original Russian news reports, and people forget that the bodies lay undiscovered for months, which would explain stuff like the tongue being missing. Leave a body lying in wilderness for months and of course soft tissue will have decayed or been eaten.

DuesToTheDirt · 03/09/2023 11:11

I'm going to put in a word for the many missing and murdered indigenous women and girls in Canada. The "scariest" part for me is not just the murders, but that so many of them don't even get a proper investigation. It's like they don't even matter.

BlackDressingGown · 03/09/2023 11:12

Patrick Warren and David Spencer, also known as the Milk Carton kids. Disappeared from my local area in 1996 aged 11 and 13. Nobody knows what happened to them. Poor family recently started a new campaign to find them and dug up a few spots but nothing found.

DZbornak · 03/09/2023 11:14

YoureStillOnMute · 02/09/2023 22:45

The murder of those three young boys in West Memphis, Arkansas - known to most as the case of the West Memphis Three. If they didn't kill those boys, then who did?

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I think this was Terry Hobbs and associates. Some evidence points towards him.

HumanBurrito · 03/09/2023 11:15

HoppingPavlova · 03/09/2023 01:26

The Mary Celeste
Jack the Ripper
Bella in the Wytch Elm
Beaumont children
Madeleine McCann
Amy Lynn Bradley - that’s the one I’ve found scariest to be honest and I told my DD she was absolutely banned from cruises for life. Poor girl, greatest probability is she was abducted from cruise ship for use in sex slave trade. People think they did see her subsequently (and one I can’t fathom where a woman claimed she begged for help in a woman’s bathroom saying she was being held, and the woman dismissed her). I’m guessing it got to a point her use was up and she was disposed of. So awful. I also read that it’s not the only case, not unheard of for young women to go ‘missing’ from cruise ships in those parts and police/ships don’t investigate with the line ‘they must have met someone and ran off, or didn’t want to go back home and ran off’, yeah right. I’ve no doubt those local police are likely in on these rings.

It is far more likely Amy Bradley fell off the ship.

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