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A log of schools confirmed closed/open

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 01/09/2023 09:59

Doesn't look like an official list will ne provided any time soon. Figured we could list schools we've had confirmation of closed / open ourselves.

I've a primary and secondary that could be affected, no word yet. Once I get the confirmation either way I'll name them and say Open or Closed.

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hby9628 · 01/09/2023 10:03

My 12yo last night was asking if her school was closing. Ever hopeful. Not heard anything yet though but it wouldn't surprise me if it was effected in some way.

dontgobaconmyheart · 01/09/2023 10:38

I doubt many people will be wanting to name on an open forum exactly where their DC go to school, and quite rightly.

Surely it's easier just to monitor the situation at ones own school, since that's the only situation that affects one's own household and then discuss the broader topic/inconvenience on here if desired.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 01/09/2023 10:40

dontgobaconmyheart · 01/09/2023 10:38

I doubt many people will be wanting to name on an open forum exactly where their DC go to school, and quite rightly.

Surely it's easier just to monitor the situation at ones own school, since that's the only situation that affects one's own household and then discuss the broader topic/inconvenience on here if desired.

Nothing stopping anyone from name changing to list the school.

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OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 01/09/2023 10:42

Daily mail have started a list. The majority seem to be in Essex so fat.

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2023 10:44

Essex is near the top of the alphabet and the government is still phoning schools.

IsThePopeCatholic · 01/09/2023 10:57

Does this government ever do anything right? Noooooo. It’s clear, they don’t give a shit about state schools. And now for the next fiasco….

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:04

IsThePopeCatholic · 01/09/2023 10:57

Does this government ever do anything right? Noooooo. It’s clear, they don’t give a shit about state schools. And now for the next fiasco….

As a politically homeless person, I don't understand what it's got to do with "this government" in particular? The news says it was material used to build schools between the 60s and the 90s, so surely this is the fault of many governments?

cakeorwine · 01/09/2023 11:06

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:04

As a politically homeless person, I don't understand what it's got to do with "this government" in particular? The news says it was material used to build schools between the 60s and the 90s, so surely this is the fault of many governments?

The issue has been known for a while. The material had a life span of about 30 years so you would have hoped some planning would have taken place, rebuilding, foresight, preparedness......

I remember hearing about this on Radio 4 PM in June.

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2023 11:06

Because this government watched a school building collapse in 2018 and did fuck all about the danger to kids in other schools for 5 years.

User63847439572 · 01/09/2023 11:07

What’s the point though? Apart from for the press.
if your own school is affected you’re here.

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:07

cakeorwine · 01/09/2023 11:06

The issue has been known for a while. The material had a life span of about 30 years so you would have hoped some planning would have taken place, rebuilding, foresight, preparedness......

I remember hearing about this on Radio 4 PM in June.

Which is fair, I just don't see that it's all the current government's fault that's all. If there's a life span of 30 years there should have been plans in place long before now by various labour and conservative governments over the years.

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2023 11:10

I just don't see that it's all the current government's fault that's all

They've had reports on their desk telling them that there is a risk of death and injury to children that they've sat on and done nothing about and you don't think that's their fault?

lavenderlou · 01/09/2023 11:10

One of those schools in Essex on the DM list is in the same trust as me and they were told to close in June so it's not an up-to-date list.

cakeorwine · 01/09/2023 11:10

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:07

Which is fair, I just don't see that it's all the current government's fault that's all. If there's a life span of 30 years there should have been plans in place long before now by various labour and conservative governments over the years.

This is from 2022. It references the collapse in 2018 and a warning in September 2022

Schools face ‘time bomb’ leaving them ‘liable to collapse’ (schoolsweek.co.uk)

The collapse of a primary school’s flat roof in 2018 – luckily at a weekend and resulting in no casualties – is believed to have brought the potential danger of reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete’s (RAAC) fragility into sharp focus.
While RAAC may look like traditional concrete, it is weaker, with chocolate Aero-like bubbles. Because the concrete is often obscured from view above ceilings, schools are often unaware of its presence.
But this September, the Office for Government Property (OGP) issued a safety briefing notice to all property leaders warning RAAC is “now life expired and liable to collapse”.
They warned “this has already happened in two schools with little or no notice”.
In the incident that prompted concerns about RAAC in schools, at Singlewell Primary School in Gravesend, signs of structural stress only appeared 24 hours before the roof gave way.

The ‘ticking time bomb’ leaving schools ‘liable to collapse’

Ministers urgently seek details about reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete, used widely in flat-roofed buildings

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/the-ticking-time-bomb-leaving-schools-liable-to-collapse/

JanesBlond · 01/09/2023 11:10

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:07

Which is fair, I just don't see that it's all the current government's fault that's all. If there's a life span of 30 years there should have been plans in place long before now by various labour and conservative governments over the years.

They’ve been in for 13 years so they’ve had plenty of time to deal with this.

cakeorwine · 01/09/2023 11:13

More from that

"Health Minister Steve Barclay told health leaders at the NHS Providers conference earlier this month he understands “the seriousness of this issue and I am committed to delivering the government’s commitment to eradicating RAAC from the NHS estate”.

The DfE is publicly advising trusts and councils to assess the RAAC condition and “develop the most appropriate measures to mitigate any building safety risks, particularly when managing older estates”.
Daniel Grant, a technical manager for Alumasc Roofing, based in St Helens, said RAAC has been “moved up the list by DfE to ‘urgent structural deck’, so they are saying buildings with that deck in have to be stripped out as a matter of urgency.”

A spokesperson for DfE said it is “working proactively to identify and manage reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete across the school estate”.

spanieleyes · 01/09/2023 11:17

My school is fine- well, apart from the tiles falling off the roof, the crack in the gable end wall, the leaks coming through the ceiling, the boiler that breaks down every year (but we have a lovely guy that seems to be able to coax it back to life when no one else can) the wall that is falling down and that's apart from any " cosmetic" works that would be really nice to do- the painting, carpet replacement, ill-matched furniture, and so on!!!,
And we are " low priority" for repairs!

RB68 · 01/09/2023 11:23

We had a concrete issue in school in the mid 70s and closed a whole block for 5 yrs, it then magically reopened with seemingly no work done, reassessed the risk apparently...

Been going on for years

DuncinToffee · 01/09/2023 11:23

BBC is naming a few schools

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-66673971

Two primary schools in Bradford - Crossflatts and Eldwick - are among those affected, with parts closed to pupils after the concrete was identified, the council said

Other schools that BBC News has gathered evidence on, which suggests they are also affected, are:

Ferryhill School, a secondary in County Durham - an email to parents, seen by the BBC, said the start of the new school year would be delayed. New starters would start a week late with the rest being taught online, it said. One parent told the BBC his year seven daughter was apprehensive about starting school and this put them in a "difficult position"

Willowbrook Mead Primary Academy, Leicester - parents were told in a letter from the school, seen by the BBC, about complex arrangements to send children from different year groups to two different schools, and give older children home schooling

Corpus Christi Catholic Primary School, Brixton, south London - a statement from 18 August says juniors are to be relocated to a neighbouring school

Construction of a temporary building at Crossflats

Schools with dangerous concrete race to replan start of term

More than 100 English schools have to make new arrangements days before term begins.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-66673971

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:28

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2023 11:10

I just don't see that it's all the current government's fault that's all

They've had reports on their desk telling them that there is a risk of death and injury to children that they've sat on and done nothing about and you don't think that's their fault?

I asked why, if you don't want to answer without sarcasm that's fine. For a lot of us this is the first we're hearing about any of it.

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2023 11:32

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:28

I asked why, if you don't want to answer without sarcasm that's fine. For a lot of us this is the first we're hearing about any of it.

Not through want of me trying, tbf.

ClairDeLaLune · 01/09/2023 11:40

caerdydd12 · 01/09/2023 11:28

I asked why, if you don't want to answer without sarcasm that's fine. For a lot of us this is the first we're hearing about any of it.

That wasn’t a question, it was a statement in defence of the government. A statement which deserved the reply it got frankly,

Itsnotrightbutitsok · 01/09/2023 11:47

I hope my teen isn’t reading this.

She’s been hoping there’s another lockdown as that’s the rumour going around and I said there’s absolutely no way schools will close again as so many people kicked off about it last time.

VeloVixen · 01/09/2023 11:51

Wasn’t it Michael Gove who scrapped the programme looking at school building safety in 2010?

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