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A log of schools confirmed closed/open

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 01/09/2023 09:59

Doesn't look like an official list will ne provided any time soon. Figured we could list schools we've had confirmation of closed / open ourselves.

I've a primary and secondary that could be affected, no word yet. Once I get the confirmation either way I'll name them and say Open or Closed.

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DuncinToffee · 01/09/2023 11:52

More schools mentioned on the BBC

  • Kingsdown School, Southend-on-Sea, Essex - the special school for children aged from three to 14 years old was told on Thursday to close its main building.
  • Cockermouth School, Cockermouth, Cumbria - pupils will return to school a day later because of RAAC found in four corridors, the library and sports hall

And these schools were already affected

  • Parks Primary, Leicester - back in May, the school had to relocate several classes and borrow rooms from other institutions after the discovery of RAAC
  • Mistley Norman Church of England Primary, Manningtree - children have been taught in classrooms at another school since April, after the aging lightweight concrete was discovered
Harveywho · 01/09/2023 12:03

Michael Gove cancelled the new school building programme in 2010. Had been implemented by the previous govt to replace the schools effected

CoffeeWithCheese · 01/09/2023 12:13

It particularly sucks for the Leicester schools as their term has already started (Leicester has this strange early start/end to their summer holidays - rather popular with the parents for cheaper holidays though).

I'm half expecting our secondary to be on the list, but it's in an interim building anyway after the original building was closed and scheduled for demolition due to crumbly concrete (then burnt down). Primary should be OK as it's a Victorian school and listed so the potential for crimes against architecture is limited anyway.

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RamblingRosieLee · 01/09/2023 12:38

Schools and hospital must be lifted out of government hands.
They need to special ring fenced funding and a team of specialists who look at the whole picture in school, with random tas picked, teachers as well as slt to help shape opinion and parents of senc hildren. As well as sen specialists.
Then we need imaginative people to look across the board and see a hat other countries are doing.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 01/09/2023 12:44

No news on dcs school yet. But they get sink holes in The outside spaces everytime it rains as it’s poorly built on chalk.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 01/09/2023 12:45

RamblingRosieLee · 01/09/2023 12:38

Schools and hospital must be lifted out of government hands.
They need to special ring fenced funding and a team of specialists who look at the whole picture in school, with random tas picked, teachers as well as slt to help shape opinion and parents of senc hildren. As well as sen specialists.
Then we need imaginative people to look across the board and see a hat other countries are doing.

I don’t disagree. But what your essentially saying is our elected government can’t be trusted.
so why are they still being elected???

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 01/09/2023 12:46

This is one issue with 4 year government cycles. It kicks cans down the road.
like the housing crisis and pending retirement issues.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 01/09/2023 12:47

I doubt many people will be wanting to name on an open forum exactly where their DC go to school, and quite rightly

You don't need to say it's your own dc, could be somewhere local or somewhere you know about from friends or relatives, or you've seen on a council list.

RamblingRosieLee · 01/09/2023 12:48

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji

What im saying is I don't trust labour or lib dems at all

VeloVixen · 01/09/2023 12:58

Has anyone thought about looking at hospitals yet?

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 01/09/2023 13:02

RamblingRosieLee · 01/09/2023 12:48

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji

What im saying is I don't trust labour or lib dems at all

Whilst I agree with you. What you’re saying is a whole can of worms. We are meant to elect our leaders which would imply a level of trust.
having people outside of that doesn’t fit with our form of government

Calmdown14 · 01/09/2023 13:06

It isn't necessarily whole schools surely. There may be some all built in the same era but for most it might be they have a Victorian building with a 60s extension added etc.

It would only be the extension affected so it might be a case of closing a library, sports hall, moving classrooms into mobiles, rejigging timetables.

They may only need to close the top floor etc.

It's very disruptive and not ideal but this is very widespread. Hospitals and universities are still functioning. Most schools will find workarounds of some sort.

You want to hope for a hotchpotch of architectural eras in your schools!

dutysuite · 01/09/2023 13:09

part of my child’s school has asbestos, I only realised a few months ago when I read their asbestos policy online. I’ve since read that many schools contain asbestos.

WhiteFire · 01/09/2023 13:13

dutysuite · 01/09/2023 13:09

part of my child’s school has asbestos, I only realised a few months ago when I read their asbestos policy online. I’ve since read that many schools contain asbestos.

Asbestos containing materials are absolutely everywhere, it has many good properties, just the cancer causing ones cancels all this out. It is only an issue if it is disturbed.

WhiteFire · 01/09/2023 13:15

Is this more likely to be an issue in two plus storey buildings or is also affecting one level buildings?

hby9628 · 01/09/2023 13:17

We've just had a letter to say that one small area of the school is effected but work had started on this last term & alternative space was being used so all good to send them back next week.

Calmdown14 · 01/09/2023 13:19

It's more about roof construction than height.

It was used in flat roof between the 60s and 90s but it is 60s and 70s buildings where most of the issues have been found so far.

The government have had a policy document on this with the timetable for inspection for several years. It was still online last time I checked so although it's hitting headlines, it's not new.

GeorgeSpeaks · 01/09/2023 13:22

@caerdydd12 the other thing is that Labour has a 'Building schools for the future' programme which ended when the Tories got in in 2010 or whenever it was. A school near me was on the list to be rebuilt but once the programme was shelved it was left overcrowded and rotting. And still is over a decade later!

longestlurkerever · 01/09/2023 13:25

My daughter's school is affected but we were notified in July and the works have been taking place over the summer. Not sure why that was ahead of the latest announcement. Am just hoping they'll be completed on time

oldwhyno · 01/09/2023 13:25

hby9628 · 01/09/2023 13:17

We've just had a letter to say that one small area of the school is effected but work had started on this last term & alternative space was being used so all good to send them back next week.

This is why the government aren't publishing a list. Because each affected school will be affected differently, and have different options for working around any loss of facilities. So it's up to schools to determine the degree to which school provision may or may not be impacted and notify their local communities.

People really ought to just concentrate on something more important until that happens.

Dibblydoodahdah · 01/09/2023 13:28

Calmdown14 · 01/09/2023 13:06

It isn't necessarily whole schools surely. There may be some all built in the same era but for most it might be they have a Victorian building with a 60s extension added etc.

It would only be the extension affected so it might be a case of closing a library, sports hall, moving classrooms into mobiles, rejigging timetables.

They may only need to close the top floor etc.

It's very disruptive and not ideal but this is very widespread. Hospitals and universities are still functioning. Most schools will find workarounds of some sort.

You want to hope for a hotchpotch of architectural eras in your schools!

It will depend on the school but some primaries are almost entirely 60’s/70’s built so it’s likely that the whole school will have to school in those cases.

Clutterbugsmum · 01/09/2023 13:28

Although we are talking about schools at the moment you should also be aware that a lot of hospitals, office blocks and some flats are built from the same materials.

So this goes a lot further then schools.

StefanosHill · 01/09/2023 13:29

longestlurkerever · 01/09/2023 13:25

My daughter's school is affected but we were notified in July and the works have been taking place over the summer. Not sure why that was ahead of the latest announcement. Am just hoping they'll be completed on time

I doubt it’s the only one, but it’s not as interesting to the press as a story right now

They should have said more earlier on about starting schools as yours did

Justbetweenus · 01/09/2023 13:32

spanieleyes · 01/09/2023 11:17

My school is fine- well, apart from the tiles falling off the roof, the crack in the gable end wall, the leaks coming through the ceiling, the boiler that breaks down every year (but we have a lovely guy that seems to be able to coax it back to life when no one else can) the wall that is falling down and that's apart from any " cosmetic" works that would be really nice to do- the painting, carpet replacement, ill-matched furniture, and so on!!!,
And we are " low priority" for repairs!

To the PP who queried why this government needs to shoulder responsibility - this is why. If you cut capital expenditure on school buildings (and hospitals and prisons and and and) in the name of your failed policy that was/is austerity, this is what happens.

gracijela · 01/09/2023 13:41

I just don't see that it's all the current government's fault that's all. If there's a life span of 30 years there should have been plans in place long before now by various labour and conservative governments over the years.

@caerdydd12 if you are in power and there is something wrong in the country you are running, you try to fix it. That's what you get elected for.

How "politically homeless" do you need to be not to realise that?

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