A log of schools confirmed closed/open

[BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz]

Doesn't look like an official list will ne provided any time soon. Figured we could list schools we've had confirmation of closed / open ourselves.

I've a primary and secondary that could be affected, no word yet. Once I get the confirmation either way I'll name them and say Open or Closed.

Well it was pretty corrupt in education 10 years ago when I first encountered the SEN system, but unless you had a child with SEN, school was amazing. However that's creeping out to be more public knowledge now as even kids with dyslexia are being asked to leave now.

But government repeatly lieing and it making headlines has been weekly since post covid lockdowns ended.

My LA lie as a matter of SEN education policy. It's always been my experience of my LA.

I remember after the Summer holidays of 2006, the kids had an extra week off as asbestos found in their building over the holidays and before they broke up in July.
A temporary school was found and we would take the kids to the local leisure centre where coaches were laid on to take them to the school and return them there at the end of the day.

Prior to the Holidays though, they had been shipping them off to various other local schools, a community centre and the library (with their teachers) so the school they found was a better option all round.

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What a nightmare. This whole fiasco is unbelievable.

There's a list now of NHS hospitals affected in varying levels out... this is going to be absolute chaos.

Kids' schools are unaffected - one of them had moved out of a heavily crumbly concrete building a few years ago now (so the issue is not new or unknown).

It is this Tory government that halted school refurb/rebuild programme.

We have had record UNDERinvestment thanks to this government. The schools wouldn't be shut if they'd been fixed already

Pedants' Corner is over their -->

And so did the previous labour government. In fact if the stuff was being used in the 60s with a 30 year life expectancy, the rolling repairs should have started in the 90’s

Labour were working through the list, the Tories stopped the programme.

The Tories are to blame for where we are today, they've had 13 years of doing fuck all.

Still, at least those PPE contracts got paid

Labour had a programme called Building School for the Future. Labour didn't even take office until 1997.

The Tories stopped it once they got back in.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_Schools_for_the_Future

On 31 August 2023, the Conservative government announced over 500 schools were at imminent risk of collapse due to the use of RAAC in construction. More than 100 were immediately closed. Critics have pointed to Gove's decision to scrap the BSF scheme in the drive to save money as a central factor in the delays to repairs and new builds.

And l Labour were responsible for the disastrous PPP contracts to build schools and hospitals, leaving the country saddled with huge debt. The terms of the contracts negotiated were really poor and the repayments horrific. People have short memories.

Do you mean PFI? (Or is it same)

We’re still paying now. I’m not sure they were a good way to go in terms of value for taxpayer money, the mark up cost was incredible

Public Private Partnership - yes I think it’s the same as PFI

Makes sense yep same thing

Thos is entirely the problem schools were left with no budget for repairs they had to come out of the school budget so sacrifices were made

There will also be lots of social housing properties which were built in similar ways and are now due for demolition. The pigeons are coming home to roost quite fast.

@caerdydd12 this is ENTIRELY this government’s fault. 100%. The fuckers. Please tell everyone you know this - don’t let them get away with it!

The previous Labour government had a plan in place to rebuild schools and avoid this scenario but this government hates the public sector and all who rely on it. Hence this fucking car crash. 🤬

While it's good that a lot of dire school buildings were replaced, it could get interesting in the next decade as PPP contracts expire and control of sites returns to LAs and academies just as the buildings are getting more expensive to maintain. There will inevitably be sites where corners were cut during construction. Many designs were poorer than original layouts. Capacity was often lost.
More kicking the can.

That doesn't exonerate the lack of investment since 2010, but some schools did turn down proposed PPP reconstructions in the 2000s because of the long term cost-benefit.

Quality hasn't been on the agenda since the 1960s. Was New Labour better? Yes, but it wasn't a halcyon era either and we're comparing to a low bar, and they had a stronger economy to play with.

PFI wasn’t great. If we’re going to pay for it, which we will somehow, a whacking great private mark up isn’t preferable

The plan in place to rebuild schools was PPP which was massively expensive and private companies gained hugely out of it. This was under Labour’s watch.
I wonder if Gove realised money was being wasted and this is why it was stopped. At our local school janitors weren’t even allowed to change a lightbulb because of the contract. They had to wait for someone to come out to do it at vast expense.

The Tories have racked up way more debt.

The local school here built under PFI is open, and safe.

The Tories just scrapped it. Governments have to take care of the basics.

It’s their job. It’s one of the reasons no one wants to be a head any more.

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Teacher here. The Schools listed so far are the tip of the iceberg.
As teachers we are really hoping the Schools remain open. Online teaching is brutal.

My daughter's school is affected but not on the list as they are planning on keeping all classes open but moving them to halls and having some classes share. Not sure how feasible it is as they are planning on having the four year 1 classes share with reception but there's only four classrooms available. South Essex.

At the absolute minimum very least, even if you think this is somehow not their fault at all, the government could have announced the closures at the start of the summer holidays rather than right at the very end.