Sara Sharif

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Sara, aged 10, was found dead in the family home.

The police "want to speak" with Sara's father and his partner, who flew to Pakistan the day before Sara's body was found, and then phoned (don't know who) from there:

The call led officers to the house in Woking where they found the body of Sara who had sustained "multiple and extensive injuries", likely to have been caused over a sustained period of time.

Another child suffers at the hands of those who should care. I hope they get them back from Pakistan but I wonder what the chances of that are.

RIP, Sara.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-66563430

I suspect you are so determined to pick up on Islamophobia and stereotyping that you see it where none exists.

Granted there are comments that deserved picking up on but instead you chose mine and tried to twist it any which way you could not realising that I have more of an idea of reality than you do.

Perhaps going forward you can pick up on things that do need challenged and leave things you’re not actually aware of alone.

And no. I won’t be replying to anything else you say.

But that’s just your family and outside of your home it’s common practice for girls to have clothes they can wear at home but they aren’t worn outside

It really depends on what you mean. Everyone has clothes they wear at home but wouldn’t wear outside. But if you’re suggesting that it’s more so for Muslim girls then yes, that is a stereotype.

You have a poster challenging you on the stereotype and your response to that is the poster must be the exception rather than the norm. Well no, far from it. Kindly, what gives you the authority to declare the majority of daughters of the millions of Muslims in western world have different wardrobes for inside and out, rather than accepting that there are some Muslims who practice like that and some who don’t.

That being said, if she was wearing the hijab at 10, as a neighbour pointed out, then that does suggest they were on the stricter side, but all of that is irrelevant to what happened to Sara.

It’s also really important to remember that cultural practices differ greatly. The way Pakistani Muslims live their lives and practice is very different to the way Arab Muslims live and practice. There is a big cross over between religion and culture, which many Muslims don’t even realise, and it’s the usually the South Asian practices that people assume represents Islam as a whole.

I've got clothes I'd only wear at home too, and I'm a white British atheist.

It's also possible to have clothes you'd wear at home with the family (like a strappy dress) but if you were going out you'd put a long sleeve top on underneath, or something over it.

But, back to the original point, I wouldn't read too much into one photo which we don't have the context for, but looks like it was probably getting ready for a special occasion.

It really depends on what you mean. Everyone has clothes they wear at home but wouldn’t wear outside. But if you’re suggesting that it’s more so for Muslim girls then yes, that is a stereotype.

Any stereotyping going on is in the mind of others.

I believe Sara wanted to become a modal, according to one report I read and liked to dress up and wear makeup.

Model.

Home schooling has to be banned unless there's some very special significant, proveable need that is assessed by a qualified panel that has the power to deny and check what's happening . We've seen time and time again it is used by abusers to hide their crimes.

Someone mentioned it earlier but I can’t stop thinking about how they would have probably had to walk over her dying body to rush around booking last minute flights tickets/airport transfers and packing their bags. Or at least they would have had to move her body out of the way, then put it back under the stairs (if supposedly what the uncle said holds any weight that she fell down the stairs). Did the siblings see her? What did they tell them when they asked why Sara isn’t coming. Fly night little Sara 💔

Feeling physically sick reading this. Doesn't say who wrote the note. It could have either been written by the 13 year old brother indicating the murderer, or it could have been written by the murderer themselves to divert attention.

"Sara Sharif, 10, was found dead at her home near Woking, Surrey, last week and police officers are now said to have found a handwritten note said to have named her alleged killer"

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-find-handwritten-note-woking-30774506

I wonder if the heavy make-up in the photo was applied to disguise any bruising.

Interhigh have safeguarding protocols just FYI.

Surely they shouldn’t have released this note until they are caught. If in fact one of her siblings did write that then the parents now know and will likely cause harm to them ?

That's what I'm worried about too 😕

Yes and pastoral care. And they build a community of friends.

(We used it for my son for a bit when he had anxiety and was school refusing, it was v good and I am so glad we had that middle ground)

I like to think this was carefully considered before releasing the note

Dailymail had initially released it and now it's gone but other news outlets are still around quoting DM

I wonder that too. As a European divorcing a brit, first thing all lawyers told me was to get british citizenship to protect my rights. Mum does not seem very eloquent in English and probably had no access to legal aid and lost custody out of not knowing the system or being able to support herself and kids financially. Or maybe she lost custody for very good reasons. If she lost the kids because of the system/poverty this story would be even more tragic!
Personally I think the kid was a house slave like Mo Farah was when he was a kid, which explains the hone schooling and the neighbour saying she was always with the baby.
I agree home schooling should be banned, if a ban could save even one life ot would be worth it.

I would say it’s more of a response to the uncle saying “she fell down the stairs it was an accident” comment kind of them saying well clearly we know she was beaten.

I hope I’m wrong I just have a bad feeling about this, the fact it’s also disappeared from the Mail- wonder if the police want it removed ?

It's not the children who are using InterHigh, attending Scouts, baking cakes and taking recorder lessons that I'm worried about - their parents are well intentioned, providing some form of education, and the children are coming into regular contact with non-family adults. They are low risk.

It is, however, the parents of those children who loudly oppose the regulation or inspection of home education - they seem to think that because they and all the other home edders they are coming into contact with are doing a good job, all parents of children who are home educating (or claiming to) are doing a good job. Clearly, that cannot be the case.

Home educating families seem to fall into a few categories

• families who are highly engaged in home education circles, are doing it for the right reasons and are making a good job of both education and welfare.
• families who are well meaning and keep their children safe, but ultimately don't provide an adequate education.

It tends to be these first two groups who loudly oppose education and welfare checks for home edders.

• families who use it as a way to keep their children away from the prying eyes of school staff, due to abuse and neglect.
• traveller families who allow their children to cease formal education at age 11, tell the system they're being homeschooled, and their semi-literate parents provide no real education whatsoever. The education authorities seem powerless to act despite the well documented low literacy and educational achievement amongst travellers.

The children of these families would benefit hugely from greater regulation and inspection of home education because their parents shouldn't be allowed to pull them out of school in the first place.

And a fifth group, where there are SEN and the children are being failed by the education system; I have every sympathy with these families and I'm sure they'd be only too happy to put their children into suitable school places, which ought to be provided by the state.

We cannot know which group each family falls into without an adequate system of registration and inspections.

I totally agree.

Completely agree with this 100%

With the now deleted note update, I agree with PPs that the police have likely requested minimal media rather than my assumption as to why it wasn't reported. Ridiculous they would post something tantos obviously puts another child in danger.

I can't stop thinking about the poor girl, her brother and her mother.

And her other little sisters and perhaps another brother but not 100% sure on that one, can’t stop thinking about them either