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Lucy Letby guilty

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BarelyLiterate · 18/08/2023 13:12

Lucy Letby has been convicted of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six more.

My thoughts are with the families of the victims.

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RedToothBrush · 18/08/2023 20:48

GameOverBoys · 18/08/2023 20:46

Does anyone know if any additional babies died while lucy Letby worked there (June 2015 to June 2016) did she kill all of them or was there other ‘natural’ deaths? I can’t find any stats.

She was also at Liverpool Women's from 2012 to Jan/Feb 2015 (reported by ITV news).

MansfieldLark · 18/08/2023 20:49

I think they should pop her in a cell with Joanna Dennehy. But in reality she will be in segregation for her own safety.

Zonder · 18/08/2023 20:49

Ridemeginger · 18/08/2023 20:26

Shocking interview with one of the doctors that reported on LL - disbelieved by management, and forced to write LL a written apology for accusing her. The managers need to be investigated and prosecuted.

Poor man. So awful.

Tapasita · 18/08/2023 20:51

Jesus, I’ve just been reading how Dr Stephen Brearey had to repeatedly fight to have his concerns heard with Snr managers & he even felt desperate enough in the end to call his boss & ask for her immediate removal from the ward - but she refused.

Seriously troubling reading as it’s obvious the management team didn’t want to open up the hospital to scrutiny - they literally brushed everything up into one big pile and swept it under the carpet. Shocking. Babies could have been saved had they fucking acted instead of protecting their own sorry arses. They have blood on their hands

Whattodo112222 · 18/08/2023 20:57

This main Consultant looks like he has ptsd.

Sirzy · 18/08/2023 21:00

Whattodo112222 · 18/08/2023 20:57

This main Consultant looks like he has ptsd.

I’m not surprised. His concerns weren’t only ignored but he was turned into the bad guy for daring to speak up

powershowerforanhour · 18/08/2023 21:00

"Shocking interview with one of the doctors that reported on LL - disbelieved by management, and forced to write LL a written apology for accusing her. The managers need to be investigated and prosecuted."

Horrific. Hospital management in the Beverley Allitt case called the cops who found and stopped her after 4 deaths. Can't believe this shower ignored the doctors.

WhatsitWiggle · 18/08/2023 21:00

GameOverBoys · 18/08/2023 20:04

I’m curious why that in the years prior to LL starting work on average 3 children died per year. After she left only 1 baby died in 7 years. What changed in the unit? I think there will be more details of failures to come.

They changed the level of the unit from what I read, so no longer taking the ICU babies.

There are 3 levels of neonatal care, NICU which is intensive care - poorliest babies, life support, very close nursing care. Not all hospitals have this - my daughter had to be transferred 15 miles after birth. High dependency - not life support but still specialist care, when my daughter still needed tube feeding, fluids and a hot cot, she was in HDU.
Special care - lowest level of special care, IME a nurse wasn't always in the room, the babies in this room when my daughter was in were mainly needing to learn to feed and gain weight.

It stuns me though that the unit went from 3 deaths a year, to the same number in a week and it still took over a year before she was moved off duties.

The poor families, those that have lost their babies and those living with children disabled by her attempts.

millymog11 · 18/08/2023 21:02

can anyone with experience in working in this type of setting explain how LL could have got hold of the insulin she injected without someone clocking that that medication was missing? I just don't understand it (not being a medic myself)

Whattheflipflap · 18/08/2023 21:02

Saw this on the guardian!!
basically admitting it

Lucy Letby guilty
froggyfringe · 18/08/2023 21:02

Hey if you think clinicians are burnt out from covid and short staffing that's one thing. We are also burnt out from having to fight the people that are supposed to facilitate clinicians providing patient care.

Let me tell you, they are like a mafia that only care about their next seat up or their next rung up the not so greasy pole.

AvocadotoastORahouse · 18/08/2023 21:02

dementor72 · 18/08/2023 17:13

I agree with the guilty verdict and hope the parents of the murdered children can get some peace, but I don’t think that can happen until there is clear accountability throughout public services and some very negative consequences for blatant negligence. What we see time after time are various highly paid ‘managers’ failing in their roles, creating havoc and worse then transferring to the next post in a nearby Trust to carry on. No-one with corporate responsibility ever seems to lose out.
The named and shamed should , after due diligence by an independent inquiry , at least lose their pensions and be prevented from taking up the lucrative directorships they have. Prosecution would appease some but the threat of losing jobs and pensions might begin an age of real accountability and responsibility.
My last point : why do we call these places ‘Trusts’ ? They’re obviously not.

Yes the lack of care by the executives is so chilling. They really don't give a shit about people (staff or patients) do they.

froggyfringe · 18/08/2023 21:03

There will always be more cases like this, mid staffs and may more until the management side of things is shaken up in the nhs.

Moonshine86 · 18/08/2023 21:03

I hope she rots!

froggyfringe · 18/08/2023 21:04

No they don't care, they are too bust being sycophantic c*unts all day on teams.

DyslexicPoster · 18/08/2023 21:05

She will not fair well in prison as a child killer just as nonces are like lights to flys.

I don't doubt the verdict. But I don't get the motive. How do you do a degree to moving on to wanting people harmed by your hand when your degree was yo help? Surely this wasn't her motive at 18 when she started her carer? What happened? I don't get it.

You would never even begin to heal as the babies family. It's beyound my ability to comprehend

RLmadmum · 18/08/2023 21:06

I just feel absolutely sick. I just don't understand how someone could do this.. I feel so awful for the poor families.

Ridemeginger · 18/08/2023 21:07

What I don't understand is, while the management were dismissing the concerns of frontline staff, who they thought was responsible for babies having insulin, air and excess milk in their systems? And yes, didn't they try to. figure out who had signed out insulin?

isitshe · 18/08/2023 21:09

viques · 18/08/2023 13:30

Hard to get my head around it. Poor families, to have had to live through their personal tragedies, and then cope with a long and very emotional trial.I hope they have some relief at the verdict and are able to start their grieving for their babies.

I feel sorry for her colleagues too, they lived under suspicion and had to deal with terrible events in a professional way.

She has left a wake of misery and pain behind her, but is clearly herself suffering from severe mental illness, where the heck will they imprison her for the rest of her life.

If she is clinically psychopathic, she isn't suffering from mental illness.
Yes, it's a psychiatric disorder, but to call it an illness suggests that people can recover from it. Psychopaths don't recover from being psychopathic.

As to where they will imprison her, probably one of the high security estates which house the worst offenders with no chance of parole, may of whom are deemed beyond rehabilitation, or are those who are given whole life terms because of the gravity of their crimes.

Rose West, for example, is in HM Prison New Hall.

PickledMuffin · 18/08/2023 21:11

@CurryandSnuggle I agree, the ones who had no verdict must be feeling in some sort of limbo 😞

tooearlyforthis98 · 18/08/2023 21:11

viques · 18/08/2023 13:41

Have just read that the jury ( who must have lived through a nightmare during this trial) were not able to reach a majority verdict on some of the deaths and other charges . So those poor parents are still in limbo, my thoughts are with them because they have no chance of closure unless a retrial on those counts is mandated, which I hope it is.

Or potentially the evidence was there for all counts

tooearlyforthis98 · 18/08/2023 21:12

*wasn't not was

PeelingWallpaperFlakyPaint · 18/08/2023 21:12

I had my babies at the Countess and I wanted to say the other staff are of course all lovely.

Pebbledashery · 18/08/2023 21:12

Utterly shocked all her friends are standing by her too!!

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