Thread 29 Sunak: Borders, Barges and Bacteria

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Thanks pointythings

previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4853484-thread-28-sunak-lords-ladies-and-lame-ducks?page=1

Surely the school rebuilding plan signed off by R/S, whether or not he was advised of the state of schools, can be fact checked.

How long before Suella describes him as a leftie civil servant?

The schools debacle is another opportunity for business. Every child and teacher will be issued with a hard hat, safety shoes and safety glasses. Tory doners form a queue on the right in the VIP supply lane. Trebles all round.

Yes indeed. And an opportunity for the current government to make things even more difficult for the next government by signing off a needlessly expensive and inefficient rebuilding programme which the next government will be stuck with.

Back to GW. It boggles me that anyone would want to sit through the queen's, televised funeral and then be so angry that they send sweaty abusive messages to a colleague. How hard can it be to not send an abusive message?

ITV had an interview with the Education Secretary and at the end she swore ( she obviously didn't think that bit would be broadcast , especially at 1.40 pm on a Monday afternoon!)

What did she say @the80sweregreat?

(asking the important questions )

Here you go

https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1698675650096251294?s=20

Blimey - this is quite something

Education secretary Gillian Keegan is recorded saying others ‘have been sat on their as’ on schools Raac crisis and that it’s frustrating not being thanked for doing ‘a fing good job’

Just heard it replayed in Shelagh Fogarty. What a dunce.

funnily enough no one feels inclined to pat them on the back when we’re all sending kids off to schools of unknown stability and using hospitals that could also fall down at any point.

I would like her to flesh out the ‘everyone else is sitting in their arse’ comment though.

He does look as though when he meets something unexpected the cogs whirr and all that is outputted is "unexpected input please reboot".

Schools were not included in his 5 pledges, so he malfunctions

Does that take us up to 4 Tory scandals today?

"I would like her to flesh out the ‘everyone else is sitting in their arse’ comment though."

Yes I am quite keen to know who Keegan thought had been sitting on their arses.

Well it will either be the fault of the teachers or Labour. Or both.

Surely it'll be the civil service's fault?

Yes that's what I was saying the other day.

Ignoring the fact they've known about the issues and cut budgets.

In this case they had 52 schools deemed at risk which they've been sorting this year. 104 deemed needing repair but not at risk. One of those collapsed in the summer. Structural engineers are still classing these buildings as lower risk but they've said they can't risk it because if they collapse when occupied.

Hence the last minute job.

There's no doubt this could have been prevented as an overall disaster as with regards them acting at end of summer it's been a good thing on new evidence.

The anti growth coalition? Think that covers all the ones mentioned above as well

I am pretty sure she means But Jeremy Corbyn, he is well know for his arse.

I would like her to flesh out the ‘everyone else is sitting in their arse’ comment though

quoting myself because it’s since occurred to me this is usually the pained war cry of someone indignant they’ve been made to do their job properly/at all.

poor lady. Who knew being a minister was such hard work? It’s not like she could’ve avoided putting herself in this position.

We move on to Court buildings

The government has ordered urgent tests on courts built in the 1990s after dangerous concrete was found at a site in north London.

Govt said earlier this year all courts were safe - turns out it only surveyed those built from 60s to 80s

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66708226

I mentioned 'the sea is closed' earlier 😬

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1698683034168430870?t=LPzE4wenHMJV5Po2Mke4_g&s=19

NEW: Where was Education Secretary Gillian Keegan as the RAAC crisis unfolded?

She flew to to Spain on Friday August 25th, staying there for six days and returning on Thursday August 31st, sources say, confirmed by her office

Ah, but you see RAAC has a lifespan of 30 years, so really they only need to inspect those buildings built before 1993, which was mostly in the 1980s anyway.

This is why Rishi is right when he says that maths in this country needs to improve.
Also 50 is more than 50.

They need to act on all buildings.

The collapse of 3 buildings this summer - 1 school and 2 others - which were deemed low risk shows that low means nothing!

They need to assess quickly and just sort any building with RAAC and make sure any future buildings and replacements use material that lasts longer then a few decades.

The school built in Victorian times are standing firmer!

Was it the quality of Victorian school buildings that Sunak was thinking of when he was pleased to announce each school will be rebuilt every 300 years?

I think the others Keegan was referring to is LAs and MATs. Apparently they were told about the issue and it’s not the responsibility of the DfE to ensure schools are safe.

With what budget schools were supposed to do this with and exactly what the responsibility of the DfE is are so far unanswered.

Rishi looks odd because he can’t figure out how to segue into stop the boats from this.

Have I understood correctly if banks or Indian mulitnational companies need some money then it is fine for the government to step in and subsidse them, but if schools need preventing from falling down, its nothing to do with the government.

I think that’s how it works.