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Husband giving me an ultimatum - forcing me to get a job or sell our house

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namechanged808 · 08/08/2023 23:04

My husband and I have a mortgage on our house.

I am a SAHM of three children, 3, 5 and 7.

He says we can't afford the house we live in and wants to move to a rented council house.

I don't want to do that as I enjoy having a house of my own, that I can make mine. I don't want to rent for the rest of my life. I like stability for my children.

My husband is now forcing me to get a job if I want to keep the house.

I don't know what to do

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KatsWhiskas · 09/08/2023 14:47

TomatoSandwiches · 08/08/2023 23:15

You will not be able to get a council house after owning your current one and then moving in with a relative, they investigate and go back years to assess you and private rental is not the same as it was a few years ago. It's very difficult for a single income family to get approved so either way you should look at going back to work.
I would say opposite shifts would decrease your outgoings for childcare and make the most of you two incomes.

Above absolutely correct - I'm a former council homelessness officer. You would be found to have made yourself homeless intentionally and wouldn't get any council housing as a result...plus you'd be put in 1 room BandB temp accommodation for months...do you really want to put your kids through all that, with all the implications for their education and development...?

You and DH need to have a serious talk about the family finances. You may need some legal advice about your husband's behaviour - he can't threaten you with selling the house in the way he's doing..
It may be that you'll need to work in order to keep the house. Look at what you could do and check the National Careers Service website for advice about careers, creating a CV and applying for jobs.

KatsWhiskas · 09/08/2023 14:52

Sorry, quoted wrong post earlier in my former reply!

Good luck, OP!

Naunet · 09/08/2023 16:14

Whatifthecathatesthebaby · 09/08/2023 09:44

Nothing here is special and requires you to be a sah parent. I and millions of other working parents manage precisely these tasks around work. You could work part time. And you should be teaching the children and your husband age appropriate tasks.

You think she needs to teach her husband, a grown man and father how to parent his own kids and work the washing machine etc?! Jesus Christ, he’s really getting an easy time of it on here. Ridiculous.

Naunet · 09/08/2023 16:16

Thatboymum · 09/08/2023 12:05

I’m seeing loads of posts saying how terrible her dh is for not holding down jobs and working more hours and being more financially responsible etc and I’m flabbergasted he’s being criticised and called financially abusive while she isn’t

He refuses to parent his own children, won’t do housework and you want to be his cheerleader? He’s no better than she is and just as sexist.

user1473878824 · 09/08/2023 16:21

Dontwantanicknamethanks · 09/08/2023 13:16

I haven’t read the full thread - too long!

In your culture (assuming Pakistani) I realise that a ‘good girl’ (you know what I mean by that OP) should be creating the perfect family home whilst the husband goes out to work. A lot do achieve that and they have a strong family network they’re happily within and all are supportive of each other. The husband is also ‘extra good’ if he helps/ plays with the kids. You dreamt of this, it is expected from your culture.

unfortunately, you don’t have that, and I’m pretty sure you never will. Your main frustration is that your DH can’t earn. There are people like that, you know. They don’t have the drive, the intelligence or competence to hold down jobs, ever. Your DH is one of them. Unless he has a skill/ passion you haven’t told us, he is unlikely to be the high earner you want/ need him to be.

So this is probably only the beginning of a very difficult long term state for you- if you choose to remain in this exact same position. What to do? Everyone you speak to in your network ‘agrees’ on your behalf but your family is not willing to speak up for you and his family will not get involved (probably because they know what a deadbeat he is but too ashamed to admit it).

Reality is, he is highly unlikely to improve his prospects. He probably thinks that the house is a ball and chain that he can’t cope with and hence sees renting as the easy way out. This really is someone with low intelligence.

You also don’t want to get divorced because of the shame of it. British women do experience this feeling too - it’s not necessarily a cultural thing. But so far, what people think has not helped you at all. So why feel ashamed?

So let’s say right now you get a job but I reckon that will probably just a paper over the big cracks. When you do, I can see him stopping work completely and just being at home without doing anything to help. And as the ‘ man’ of the house and head of house, he is entitled to do what he wants. You’re in a lose-lose situation with him.

This is where you really need to speak to your family and seriously say to them that you must come home as your husband is prepared to make you homeless. You need to discuss moving back to England, finding schools nearby and somewhere to live - with their support. I realise that this is likely to bring massive drama to their doorstep - but frankly, tough, in times like this, they should be looking out for their daughter and grandchildren.

You should also get a job when your back in your family’s area. Any job. It doesn’t matter what. You need to understand the work place and earning power. You cannot be as sheltered as you want to be as it’s not realistic. Your children will not thank you for it.

And whilst doing that, speak to a solicitor about divorce. Try and find one that is recommended from the area where your parents live. I don’t know about finding one from your own culture as they may try to dissuade you from divorcing or even talk about it without your knowledge ( I know it’s illegal but that doesn’t mean it’s a bar). That’s up to you. But find one.

The bottom line is that you need to start helping yourself as you’ve landed a bad husband who will probably destroy your life. You just need the mental acceptance and then the courage it make it happen. It can be done - and that’s what people are trying to tell you here. Good luck, wish you and your kids all the best.

I think this is excellent advice

Swansandcustard · 09/08/2023 16:30

2 choices:

stay with husband and get a job
Split from husband and get a job.

Hopefully you’re seeing a theme here…

SouthLondonMum22 · 09/08/2023 16:31

CoffeandTiaMaria · 09/08/2023 13:56

8 hours a day?
Do you live in utter squalor or something?

Of course not. You don't need to clean for 8 hours a day to have a clean house, of course you don't.

MhairiLynette · 09/08/2023 17:50

OP You need to get a job and your husband needs to learn to parent his children.

My DM did it all most of the time as well as working as a receptionist at a doctors surgery. My DF had to go to London at least one day a week and New York and Toronto at least once a month for work. Even when he was working in our home city he left the house at 5am and made it back after 6pm. When my DF was home though he did spend time with us. In the winter building in the snow and in the summer coming home with Super Soaker water pistols in the car and chasing us round the garden with them or just helping DF clean the car with sponges buckets and a hose and ending up just wet as the car. The quality of time he spends with them will be so much more than the quantity. Working can do wonders for your health by giving you another outlet and allows you to support yourself and your children.

MhairiLynette · 09/08/2023 17:54

That should be the quality of time he spends with them will mean so much more than the quantity.

supersonicginandtonic · 09/08/2023 18:13

You are talking rubbish OP. You're culture? You are British born and bred. I work and in my office I work with women of many cultures and ethnic backgrounds. All married with children. They realise times have changed and needs must.
You talk about missing out on your children, tough. What do you think other working mums do?
You say he keeps getting laid off, at least he is working which is more than you are doing.
You sound, selfish, lazy and entitled to be honest

Ohyousillydivvy · 09/08/2023 18:13

I don't think the op is returning to this thread because she's been given advice that she doesn't want to hear. It's for your own benefit @namechanged808 if your husband died, how are you going to feed your kids?

Think about this very carefully, a family friend's husband did a runner with his fancy woman & left his wife in huge debts. She struggled for years, used food banks etc, kids went to school with holes in their shoes etc. It was hard for her until she went to college, retrained and got a job. She was like you, a sahm to 5 kids and pregnant with the 6th when her dh ran off.

Tailfeather · 09/08/2023 18:16

supersonicginandtonic · 09/08/2023 18:13

You are talking rubbish OP. You're culture? You are British born and bred. I work and in my office I work with women of many cultures and ethnic backgrounds. All married with children. They realise times have changed and needs must.
You talk about missing out on your children, tough. What do you think other working mums do?
You say he keeps getting laid off, at least he is working which is more than you are doing.
You sound, selfish, lazy and entitled to be honest

And lots of religions and cultures oppress women. In this day and age we should all be taking steps to avoid this.

Ohyousillydivvy · 09/08/2023 18:20

It's got nothing to do with religion or culture here, I think the op is essentially lazy. She's landed a cushy number with her dh wanting a sahm initially. She's now throwing a hissy fit because he wants her to work for financial reasons.

The reason why I think she's lazy is because from 18 to 21 she didn't go to university or work to establish a career. She stayed at home, occasionally helped her dad but waited until a man appeared to fund a sahm lifestyle. It's all very pride and prejudice, nice girls don't work etc, not that different to wags who pimp themselves out to millionaire footballers.

supersonicginandtonic · 09/08/2023 18:24

@Tailfeather I'm fully aware of that but plenty women from those cultures work.

purdypuma · 09/08/2023 18:26

Your local council would class you as making yourself intentionally homeless & would not have a duty of care to rehouse you.
Is he asking you to work PT or FT? Would you be entitled to any free childcare hours

uncomfortablydumb53 · 09/08/2023 18:27

You say your husband gets nasty with you if you disagree with him
You have a right to your own opinions
It's clear things can't continue as they are. It's not good for your DC to live in this environment and I think you need to prioritise them over your husband
Have you tried to sit down with him and go through the budget?
Times have changed and with a mortgage of £900 you do need to contribute financially
You could apply for a part time supermarket position The hours are flexible or working in a cafe or fast food outlet
If he works nights then presumably he has hours free in the afternoon when he could tidy up/ make food etc
It's his outlook that needs to change

momonpurpose · 09/08/2023 18:33

supersonicginandtonic · 09/08/2023 18:24

@Tailfeather I'm fully aware of that but plenty women from those cultures work.

Thank you I work with many woman from the same "culture" as OP all married with children...

Ac1043 · 09/08/2023 18:40

What's wrong with just getting a job and contributing towards cost of running the house if you really want to stay so bad? Even part time hours

Tailfeather · 09/08/2023 18:41

supersonicginandtonic · 09/08/2023 18:24

@Tailfeather I'm fully aware of that but plenty women from those cultures work.

Oh I know! My point was that it shouldn't be an excuse not to work. I have worked with women from all religions and cultures and backgrounds with children. It shouldn't be an excuse these days.

RestartingLife · 09/08/2023 18:41

Working mum here, 2 kids, joint mortgage, he buggered off after 22 years, now refusing to contribute. We'd agreed 'up to a year to sell the family home. He stopped contributing after 2 months. You are not alone in the 'asshole ex' scenario lol! But you will find a way through 🤗

RestartingLife · 09/08/2023 18:43

Plenty of remote work around, telephone computer stuff from home if you're really pushed 😉

MamaMH · 09/08/2023 18:52

Hi. Are the kids in school during the day and have you worked before?

You could look into learning coding (see free sites)or teach English online part-time to see if you can help with the bills.

Alternatively you could rent out your home temporarily and then privately rent till you stabilize financially and can afford to live in the house again.

Change can be good. You can also see downgrading as an opportunity to have extra money for hobbies, travel etc. Both you and your husband need to be happy in the end, and having a husband that is highly stressed out with finances can greatly impact the marriage or his overall well-being. Stay strong momma. You got this !

HulaChick · 09/08/2023 18:57

You'd have to be bloody stupid to get off the housing ladder. Could you get a part time job just doing a very few hours a week to make a bit of difference to your finances? The more hours you work, then you would have to face the cost of child care. I'd stick at being a SAHM until all kids,at school, then find a job.

YSA · 09/08/2023 18:58

Would it be possible finding a role that allows you to work remotely from home? In case childcare is a major consideration for your reluctance.

GoodChat · 09/08/2023 19:01

YSA · 09/08/2023 18:58

Would it be possible finding a role that allows you to work remotely from home? In case childcare is a major consideration for your reluctance.

You can't get a WFH job and expect to still be able to do childcare.

This argument is exactly why employers are pushing to get people back into offices.

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