Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

I saw this Rightmove house on Twitter and thought it was a joke

155 replies

DinosaurQuilt · 28/07/2023 21:02

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/137578070#/?channel=RES_BUY

But no. It’s real. I suppose the price tag is for the land 😵‍💫

Anyone want to view it?

Check out this 6 bedroom detached house for sale on Rightmove

6 bedroom detached house for sale in White House Road, Sevenoaks, TN14 for £1,750,000. Marketed by Tyron Ash Real Estate, Mayfair

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/137578070#/?channel=RES_BUY

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
WiddlinDiddlin · 29/07/2023 05:04

Why bother taking pics?

So it starts threads like this, gets shared on social media, generates more interest.

No fire, as others have said, roof off = no bats, no squatters.

Don't bother removing the furniture, that takes time, costs money. Just bulldoze it later and shovel it all into skips with a digger/grabber. Easy, fast, cheap.

It was a dated property that likely needed significant renovation to bring up to modern standards - the value of the land with PP to build bigger and better is significantly more than the value of the property as was, with merely the potential.

It may well be it was bought with the intention to demolish and rebuild, and whoever was doing that has decided to get out now rather than risk sinking money in when housing prices are unstable/COL crisis is making such investments wobbly.

TeenDivided · 29/07/2023 05:25

It was a dated property that likely needed significant renovation to bring up to modern standards - the value of the land with PP to build bigger and better is significantly more than the value of the property as was, with merely the potential.

That is like my parent's house. Just this week Dad was trying to say he should put rebuild value on house insurance as £0 as the plot of land empty is probably worth more than the plot of land with their 1950s house on it. (We didn't let him).

ParadiseLaundry · 29/07/2023 05:40

@Charlize43 and @IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads thanks for answering. I've always wondered! It makes sense when I think about it!

WellPlaced · 29/07/2023 05:48

The weirdest thing about that listing when you scroll down is the estate agents pic.

Tyron Ash Real Estate, Mayfair

CherryMaDeara · 29/07/2023 05:50

PassTheSnacks · 29/07/2023 00:43

Their bed was still made up, with their sheets and bedspread. 😔 Whatever happened it seems very tragic, the remains of someone's life and probably once a much loved home. It reminds me of photos of ruins in warzones or around Chernobyl where people left suddenly in the middle of their normal daily life.

My thoughts too. I’d hate this to happen to my elderly, house proud mum’s house, she would be devastated.

SiobhanSharpe · 29/07/2023 06:05

Looking at the two photos of the Estate Agent in different properties he clearly totes his Louis Vuitton cushions around with him. Not weird at all...

GoodChat · 29/07/2023 07:02

Of course the price is for the development. The write up says so. It says about planning permission and that it'd be perfect for a developer looking for a big project.

LittleBearPad · 29/07/2023 08:23

SiobhanSharpe · 29/07/2023 06:05

Looking at the two photos of the Estate Agent in different properties he clearly totes his Louis Vuitton cushions around with him. Not weird at all...

If only he’d found a place for them on this property.

MNetcurtains · 29/07/2023 08:31

Hmmthatsgoodchicken · 28/07/2023 21:08

I love how the description doesn't mention the fact that it has no actual roof. 😂

Gives a whole new meaning to : "Exclusive Open House 22nd & 29th of July" 😂

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/07/2023 08:48

strongcupofTea · 29/07/2023 03:32

Wow so many questions. Why did they bother to take photos of the rooms and how was the agent even allowed to venture up those stairs?

Could've used a drone ?
They don't look like your average clipboard'n'iPhone type of Estate Agents rolling up in a SmartCar !

Troyton · 29/07/2023 10:52

DinosaurQuilt · 28/07/2023 21:21

DH thinks there’s been a house fire which is why there’s no roof. Some of the beams look blackest he might have a point.

Builder here, he's right, if you look at the reat elevation the chimney stack on the right is blackened, there was likely a fairly limited fire in the loft that damaged the roof, but by no means consumed it all.

The actions to put the fire out, water, pulling off tiles and battenwork would have caused a lot of roofing damage.

Rainwater and fire brigade water would very quickly set about destroying the place, plaster ceilings collapsing, paper and paintwork very quickly fail.

Judging by the interiors it was probably an elderly persons home, they either went into a home or to live with relatives, and the house was ravaged by the elements.

A bit of work was done at some point, the floorboards didn't make a run for it on their own!!

I'd say 4-5 years ago, no more, maybe less, in covid times, paint/ plaster/ mould etc happen very quickly - note the family crests picture in the loo, still in tack and the electric fire with no rust on it, its not been that long!

Brickwork and main timbers look in good nick, crew could strip it back in a week, 4 weeks to put a new roof on, then re-board/plaster, lovelly period property.

Sadly someone will bulldoze it and put in a cul de sac of rabbit hutches.

NormalForNuneaton · 29/07/2023 11:01

Seems pointless to have a floorplan - surely, whoever buys it is going to demolish and rebuild a house to their specifications (or more than likely a whole development of houses)

Bodybop · 29/07/2023 11:03

Dombasle · 28/07/2023 21:14

Wrong photo ^^^

So good

SoupDragon · 29/07/2023 11:13

That's not fire damage. Unless fire usually saws through roof timbers in a straight line and doesn't char anything.

The bat problem seems far more likely.

DinosaurQuilt · 29/07/2023 11:43

Maybe it’s both? There was a fire and then some work was fine afterwards to saw off the remaining beams and to get rid of the charred embers?

My step father set the chip pan on fire and tbh it was only a localised area that burned down (the kitchen) but the fire brigade smashed through the roof and the whole thing had to be replaced. We lived in an L shaped bungalow so I never understood why the whole lot had to go (I was 7 so probably didn’t have the full facts).

OP posts:
KeepQuietAndMoveAlong · 29/07/2023 11:44

😂😂😂

Runninghappy · 29/07/2023 12:06

There may well have been a fire as well. I bought a house similar to this, although it didn’t make it to rightmove. Children had played in it for years and it had had several fires, however the previous owners removed the roof ( legally with ecologists from natural England) as part of the planning permission for bats.

Often in cases like this someone will buy it for say £1000, spend £100 on planning and sell on with planning for £1500. They’ve made a fairly easy £400 but took the risk of not getting planning. The next person buys it, builds the house for £2000 so has a £3500 investment and sells for sag £4250. He’s had to play a longer game and had had the stress of building, but makes a bigger profit. Obviously I’ve made these numbers up to make the point - in real life the numbers are bigger. In real life, you may balk at the price, but this might be a great investment ( I don’t know the area).

incidentally I’d there’s no chance of inhabiting the house, the purchaser doesn’t pay residential stamp duty.

Runninghappy · 29/07/2023 12:10

Runninghappy · 29/07/2023 12:06

There may well have been a fire as well. I bought a house similar to this, although it didn’t make it to rightmove. Children had played in it for years and it had had several fires, however the previous owners removed the roof ( legally with ecologists from natural England) as part of the planning permission for bats.

Often in cases like this someone will buy it for say £1000, spend £100 on planning and sell on with planning for £1500. They’ve made a fairly easy £400 but took the risk of not getting planning. The next person buys it, builds the house for £2000 so has a £3500 investment and sells for sag £4250. He’s had to play a longer game and had had the stress of building, but makes a bigger profit. Obviously I’ve made these numbers up to make the point - in real life the numbers are bigger. In real life, you may balk at the price, but this might be a great investment ( I don’t know the area).

incidentally I’d there’s no chance of inhabiting the house, the purchaser doesn’t pay residential stamp duty.

This is what mine looked like. I haven’t uploaded images before so wonder if it’ll work!

I saw this Rightmove house on Twitter and thought it was a joke
I saw this Rightmove house on Twitter and thought it was a joke
I saw this Rightmove house on Twitter and thought it was a joke
PassTheSnacks · 29/07/2023 12:16

There was a house in the next road along from me that I thought was empty. Totally overgrown garden to the extent I'm not sure how you'd get to the front door and trees growing into the house.

Then it appeared on rightmove and the true extent of the damage could be seen, collapsed ceilings etc. And then as I got to know people here a neighbour told me an elderly man had been living there with it like that. 😔 I wish we'd know, that he was alone there like that all through lockdowns as well. We'd have invited him for dinner or tried to help in some way, not that we could have repaired the house. It seemed he was just living in the kitchen. So incredibly sad, and shocking the social services did nothing if he had no family.

Presume it was unmortgageable but a very desirable plot so someone bought it and has managed to salvage most of the main structure. Just heartbreaking to see what was once someone's lovely home in that state, and in that case even sadder that he was still living there all alone.

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 16:11

Runninghappy · 29/07/2023 12:06

There may well have been a fire as well. I bought a house similar to this, although it didn’t make it to rightmove. Children had played in it for years and it had had several fires, however the previous owners removed the roof ( legally with ecologists from natural England) as part of the planning permission for bats.

Often in cases like this someone will buy it for say £1000, spend £100 on planning and sell on with planning for £1500. They’ve made a fairly easy £400 but took the risk of not getting planning. The next person buys it, builds the house for £2000 so has a £3500 investment and sells for sag £4250. He’s had to play a longer game and had had the stress of building, but makes a bigger profit. Obviously I’ve made these numbers up to make the point - in real life the numbers are bigger. In real life, you may balk at the price, but this might be a great investment ( I don’t know the area).

incidentally I’d there’s no chance of inhabiting the house, the purchaser doesn’t pay residential stamp duty.

No fire damage what so ever

ALongHardWinter · 29/07/2023 17:08

Looks like a real 'des res'. 😂

bladebladebla1 · 29/07/2023 18:24

Normally I think people are really cruel for posting pics and being horrible about a house on rightmove. But this, this is hilarious

Runninghappy · 29/07/2023 18:52

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 16:11

No fire damage what so ever

No I can’t see any either but there’s a builder who knows there was 🤣🤣

Troyton · 29/07/2023 21:18

Runninghappy · 29/07/2023 18:52

No I can’t see any either but there’s a builder who knows there was 🤣🤣

Re-built many fire damaged houses have you, i've just finished one, roof fire, no internal damage, cutting off the damaged timbers is one of the first stages to prevent them collapsing.

Anyhow, it was last sold in 2020, for more than current asking price, and a rather lovely house - only a fire or possibly major storm damage would cause such carnage.

Previous Listing

Property valuation - Pitfield, Bayleys Hill, Sevenoaks, TN14 6HS | The Move Market

Pitfield, Bayleys Hill, Sevenoaks last sold for £1,375,375 on 06 January 2015, it is now valued at £2,114,000 making it the 15th most expensive property in TN14 6HS.

https://themovemarket.com/tools/propertyprices/pitfield-bayleys-hill-sevenoaks-tn14-6hs

BadNomad · 29/07/2023 21:28

Anyhow, it was last sold in 2020

Pitfield Woodhouse was last sold in 2020, but that is a different house. The house being discussed here was last sold in 2015 and has been left empty since. Planning permission was applied for in 2018 and was granted on the condition that the roof was removed so bats could not nest there. The "carnage" is from weather damage (and maybe vandalism) due to the house not having a roof for around 5 years.