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Shouldichangename · 2023-07-25T19:34:08+00:00

So my family have a social worker as we reached out for help. Anyway social worker looked at My medical back ground and she bought up that I was diagnosed with assertive personality in 1995. I never even knew I was diagnosed with that first i have ever heard. I was only 18 then. Is it even relivent after all that time. ? Is it odd to dig that far back?

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Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 12:09

SocialLite · 03/08/2023 11:51

If there is a violent person in the household, the children (including the perpetrator) are at risk. Therefore the whole situation has to be evaluated.

That's not to say it's your parenting at fault, it may or may not be and we can't say as we're don't have the full information. But those who do have the full information have to use that to make an assessment of what the risks are and what supported is both necessary and possible.

Even if they find there is absolutely no fault on your part then your history could play a role in deciding what support is useful and in what ways it can be implemented.

It would be like complaining, as an example, that they've noted that you don't drive. You could take that as a criticism, but it might just be noted so that when putting support in place they don't set up anything that requires you to drive.

What worried me is that you're assuming it's a criticism and that they've dug for it, when it's highly likely that neither is the case.

I get what your saying. But its all about communication and building up trust.

Yes I do feel it's a criticism. But that's base's on how she is towards me. I have had her shouting at me using an awful tone with me. She does not fully explain stuff even when asked. She misses half of what i have said. She's lies about things .

What some people are not hearing on this thread which I have said several times I have spoken to her manager. And she has agreed with the things I'm saying. And even with bits that I have got wrong /misunderstood/not fully understood the manger has taken her time to fully explain things to me. Which is what the social worker should be doing in the first place the actual social worker communication is awful.

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crapactually · 03/08/2023 12:48

@Polik you need to stop. Seriously just step away.

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Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 18:52

coldcouture · 02/08/2023 17:26

OP - I am sorry you are getting some not very well informed replies. Parents being subject to violent and challenging behaviour from their children is a real thing, but unfortunately, we do not have a consistent social policy response in GB yet, and families coming forward for help are often subject to 'parent blaming' narratives, which compound the stigma associated with these issues.

I hope you and your children do get the support you need. I suspect this won't be much comfort, but Amanda Holt's review of Child to Parent Abuse, for HM Inspectorate of Probation (Academic Insights) 2022, and The Final Report, Child/Adolescent to Parent Violence and Abuse in London for the Mayoral Violence Reduction Unit, 2022, both discuss the difficulties families face getting support, and the problem of parent blaming narratives in services, and wider society.

I just read the review you suggested . Its kind of what I thought really. Hard to deal with really and it confirms why parents find it hard to come forward. And from my experience I totally get that . Part 3 stuck out for Me at the moment.

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AutumnCrow · 03/08/2023 19:05

MrsMarieMopps · 25/07/2023 21:54

@nocoolnamesleft we don't use DCM in this country, we use ICD-10

But that's what she wrote - 'Assertive personality disorder is not in DSM IV or DSM V, or ICD 10.'

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Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 19:11

AutumnCrow · 03/08/2023 19:05

But that's what she wrote - 'Assertive personality disorder is not in DSM IV or DSM V, or ICD 10.'

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@AutumnCrow what does that mean?

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AutumnCrow · 03/08/2023 19:37

Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 19:11

@AutumnCrow what does that mean?

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Ah don't worry about it, OP.

You've confirmed it was 'affective' not 'assertive' which is the relevant thing.

AutumnCrow · 03/08/2023 19:37

And good luck to you, OP.

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Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 19:39

AutumnCrow · 03/08/2023 19:37

Ah don't worry about it, OP.

You've confirmed it was 'affective' not 'assertive' which is the relevant thing.

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I'm.not sure what that means though

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Moneynewpence · 03/08/2023 19:42

MichelleScarn · 25/07/2023 21:31

I'm not brilliant with English but I'd have thought assertive and histrionic were antonyms?!

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No, they aren't. However they aren't especially related words.

Aquaphant · 03/08/2023 20:32

AutumnCrow · 03/08/2023 19:05

But that's what she wrote - 'Assertive personality disorder is not in DSM IV or DSM V, or ICD 10.'

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It doesn't really matter, because neither "affective personality disorder" or "assertive personality disorder" are legitimate diagnoses. You can have an affective disorder (depression, bipolar, etc) but those are not "personality disorders" as such. There's Depressive Personality Disorder but that wouldn't be a diagnosis given to an 18 year old. Unfortunately, I don't think the OP will be able to get any real answers as to why a GP put that term in her records 25 years ago.

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Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 22:14

Aquaphant · 03/08/2023 20:32

It doesn't really matter, because neither "affective personality disorder" or "assertive personality disorder" are legitimate diagnoses. You can have an affective disorder (depression, bipolar, etc) but those are not "personality disorders" as such. There's Depressive Personality Disorder but that wouldn't be a diagnosis given to an 18 year old. Unfortunately, I don't think the OP will be able to get any real answers as to why a GP put that term in her records 25 years ago.

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I agree with that I'm unlikely to find out much from that long ago. I could possibly get some sort of note added if I can't actually get it removed.

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thinkkook · 03/08/2023 23:00

Social worker here and we absolutely can access medical notes where I work!

coldcouture · 03/08/2023 23:10

thinkkook · 03/08/2023 23:00

Social worker here and we absolutely can access medical notes where I work!

Without consent on S17?

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Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 23:22

coldcouture · 03/08/2023 23:10

Without consent on S17?

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I did sign a section 17. But it was not clear. She told me it was for under 17 year olds . This was verble so I don't have any proof . To be honest I have nothing to hide . Just pissed me off

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bottleofbeer · 04/08/2023 18:33

If you gave permission then yeah, we can access it all. From birth. Be careful what you agree to.

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Shouldichangename · 04/08/2023 19:33

bottleofbeer · 04/08/2023 18:33

If you gave permission then yeah, we can access it all. From birth. Be careful what you agree to.

I never knew that . What a madness. It really should be made clear. I know people won't agree or like what I say . But I do think it's dishonest not to be entirely clear. No way did I know they could look up my medical information right back till birth.

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bottleofbeer · 04/08/2023 21:05

It's worded ambiguously.

But for every one we get wrong, we help more.

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Shouldichangename · 04/08/2023 21:08

bottleofbeer · 04/08/2023 21:05

It's worded ambiguously.

But for every one we get wrong, we help more.

Logically I get that. But also does alot of damage when it gos wrong.

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bottleofbeer · 04/08/2023 21:12

Of course it does.

WeetabixTowels · 04/08/2023 21:12

I have to say I’m really uncomfortable with the concept that social services justify the unnecessary damage they do (and believe me, it happens more than you’d think) by saying “well we do good things at other times”.

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Shouldichangename · 04/08/2023 21:29

WeetabixTowels · 04/08/2023 21:12

I have to say I’m really uncomfortable with the concept that social services justify the unnecessary damage they do (and believe me, it happens more than you’d think) by saying “well we do good things at other times”.

I get what your saying. I think its very hard because there are excellent social workers my adult DD has had one , well a few over the past 3 years. They have all been fantastic. Can't fault them at all.

I had a sw over 24/25 years ago. Due to my child's father physically hurting another child. This sw lied made loads of stuff. Made up. Lied in reports etc. I remember one day at a conference. She was just making stuff up. And my health visitor at that time. Infront of everyone spoke up for me and said the Sw is lying . I also made a complaint. And she left. I will never forgot that day. It done alot of damage.

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