Social worker my medical history

[Shouldichangename]

So my family have a social worker as we reached out for help. Anyway social worker looked at My medical back ground and she bought up that I was diagnosed with assertive personality in 1995. I never even knew I was diagnosed with that first i have ever heard. I was only 18 then. Is it even relivent after all that time. ? Is it odd to dig that far back?

The manger has already agrees she's being over the top. So it's kind of been sorted.

Not all sw are angels and they can be sneaky . You get good and bad. I know my own situation and I know what's needed. I know that i don't need speaking to like I'm some twat.

Anyway . My mind /stress levels are a bit wobbly at the moment . So I just want to put this on the back burner for now. Sw has left me alone since Friday. So I will make the most of it.

To be honest, regardless of what the manager has said or not,it seems you are overthinking minor things and if you are back and forth then it might make your social worker feel that there is something there.

I would personally take a back seat. Let them do/ think and say what they want. If you are nit picking, they might think you are trying to manipulate.
Whether or not the GP wrote something back in 1995, should not completely change the narrative of your current problem expecially if there is nothing there since.
If you are showing reaction to something written back in 1995, it shows there are some issues there. So I would let it go.
If there is nothing written since, then it would be safe to assume that you most possibly have overcome whatever it was back then.

I think I'm being misunderstood on this thread . But not going to keep fighting to be understood. So I'm going to leave it and won't be replying anymore. This does not mean its because people are saying stuff i don't want to hear its purely that I'm being misunderstood. Possibly because people don't know the full picture.

I already said above I want to put it on the back burner for now.

@Shouldichangename I understand you saying you will not be replying but I just thought I would clarify in case my message is also being misunderstood.
I can be an overthinker too at times but I am slowly starting to realise that sometimes it is better to let things fall into place themselves.
Hence why I wrote the message. I did not mean anything else by it.
Wish you well

I'm still smiling at the notion of an 'assertive personality disorder'. I think a few of us could do with a bit more of that! Sometimes weird stuff finds its way into health records that reflects the writer's judgement and personal prejudices, and once there, it is very difficult for the client to challenge. Indeed, if they do so, it is apt to be taken as further evidence of the purported diagnosis.

Sorry I don't understand what your saying can you put it more simply?

I think it is important that social workers complete comprehensive assessments when they are exploring potential risk. Their assessments having gaps in information could result in children being harmed. I would have no issue with a social worker looking at my medical records on this basis.

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😭😭😭 there is no risk from me to my children. It was me that reached out for help . For my son. Social services know I'm not a risk. They have said there are no concerns . I give up on this thread I think om going to hide it now . Because people are not getting it.

Sorry, @Shouldichangename what I mean is that 'assertive personality disorder' doesn't appear on any of the major diagnostic schemes like the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) or the World Health Association's International Classification of Diseases (ICD). So somebody's just made that up. I also know, as a result of people obtaining their medical records (sometimes by FOI request and court order - they weren't given up willingly!), that all sorts of derogatory comments can find their way in there - unpleasant remarks about a person's fashion sense or living arrangements, for example, or speculative 'diagnoses' for which no formal assessment was ever carried out, and so on. Sadly, if you complain about these things, it can be taken as further evidence that there's something wrong with you!

I wish I had an 'assertive personality'. My life would have probably been very different.

Do you know how overstretched social services are? They don't just keep s17's open or even initiate them unless there are a certain amount of concerns for a child's welfare. Whether you made the referral or not isn't really relevant to the case still being open. You seem really defensive and flouncy about any comment that isn't exactly what you want to hear.

My situation is complicated. Its actually to do with child to parent domestic violence. Alot of people don't seem to accept this happens. So your reply is making ot seem there is am issue with me. When in fact its a DV situation abd I have already said several tomes social services/mansher has already said ryete are no concerns that come from me. But people are choosing to dismiss that and because social services are involved decide I must be the problem because I'm the parent. When its actually a DV situation that I'm victim of.

Sorry about all the typo's

There's no way for the SW to know the truth of the situation without investigating it first, though. So they'll look at the whole family to build a picture of what your son's home life has been like and if anything related that has influenced his behavior. The SW can't just take your word for everything at face value, she's just doing her job.

Like others have said, if you keep pushing back or taking issue with everything the SW does it will bring more focus onto you and away from the issue with your son.

I was diagnosed with asthma in 1996. Because (in me) its a lifelong condition if someone requested my medical records right now they would see I have asthma. They wouldnt need to dig back 30 years or however long, it would be within the current pertinent information.

This is what people are saying has happened here. The social worker will not have had to "dig back" and they havent done something odd by seeing reference to this as an ongoing condition

I don't have this condition 😔

But that's irrelevant to your point about the social worker being odd by digging back to 1995

If you feel there is something in your medical records that there shouldnt be you need to take that up with your GP.

GP’s seem to flag mental health issues at the front of your records. I had a suicide attempt when I was 16 over 30 years ago. It’s still on the front page of my NHS medical records. For this reason I generally see a private GP because it seems to cloud the judgment of the NHS GP’s that view it. It took over five months for me to be diagnosed with a “textbook” (consultant’s words) case of gallstones and during that time I was basically accused of being an overanxious new mother and bored housewife even thought I was in extruciating pain and it got to the point that I became severely jaundice and my gallbladder was about to perforate. A couple of years ago I was sent to A & E by my GP for an adverse reaction to the AZ vaccine. Guess what was on the front page of my referral note; the suicide attempt. How this was relevant to suffering severe headaches following AZ is beyond me. Still really angry about it now, particulary as I knew the consultant on duty that day in A & E and he will have seen my notes.

Yes, @Dibblydoodahdah that's very much my experience too - I've managed to avoid psychiatric diagnosis myself but I have a good deal of experience as an informal carer and having worked with service users. If there's any hint of a mental health problem, they're apt to see your problems as some sort of 'somatisation' - headaches, gallstones, chest pains(!), the lot. Some people call this 'diagnostic overshadowing'. Plus, despite a little window dressing about confidentiality, there is in practice precious little privacy. Or indeed, dignity.

Thank you for getting it. 💐

OP - I am sorry you are getting some not very well informed replies. Parents being subject to violent and challenging behaviour from their children is a real thing, but unfortunately, we do not have a consistent social policy response in GB yet, and families coming forward for help are often subject to 'parent blaming' narratives, which compound the stigma associated with these issues.

I hope you and your children do get the support you need. I suspect this won't be much comfort, but Amanda Holt's review of Child to Parent Abuse, for HM Inspectorate of Probation (Academic Insights) 2022, and The Final Report, Child/Adolescent to Parent Violence and Abuse in London for the Mayoral Violence Reduction Unit, 2022, both discuss the difficulties families face getting support, and the problem of parent blaming narratives in services, and wider society.

With respect, you seem to be responding rather inappropriately to someone who is experiencing domestic violence.

The price of seeking help from specialist services on complex family issues shouldn't be the automatic surrendering of autonomy, privacy or dignity of family members.

Can you really not understand why the information gathering process is so important in completing assessments? Do you think that social workers should accept the parent's narrative without exploring the context and family dynamics? It's adult focused practice that has led to so many failings and serious case reviews.

I'm very obviously not saying that OP has abused her child, I'm explaining why these processes are important. If my DC were being assessed, I would want the social worker to complete their assessments properly. I might know that I am a good parent, wouldn't expect a social worker to take my word for it.

Yes it's kind of sad that it's not really recognised. Social services have acknowledged that it's DV . But there's still am element of blame the parent there. Although he has admitted to what he does. Admits he does not have a bad life at home etc. He's been referred to a DV course for young people but there's a bit of a wait. I looked it up as well and there's an on line course for parents as well . I was thinking about referring myself . But it's very complicated. Also its via video . I'm not sure I will get the private time to do that .

I will try and look up Amanda holes review. Thank you.

Whats really winding me up is they are kind of down playing how ds has Been. But putting in writing things from 93/95 and not even asking me about it. Yes apparently they have not dag for it. That does stop them asking me about it. For me that's saying oh the parent has issues. I say they the manger (seems) to get where I'm coming from.

I totally get what your saying and I agree hence I signed section 17. But its also about communication. Don't just write in a report that will be held on file for many years things about me from 93/95. Talk to me about it so we can explore. It may well still be written on the file but at least there could be some context. Something like depression/anxiety, personality disorder from 93/95. Discussed this with client who explains xyz.

As far as I'm concerned that's not working with families. That's just just writing shit down and no exploring. It also does not build Any trust which is needed.