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Social worker my medical history

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Shouldichangename · 25/07/2023 20:34

So my family have a social worker as we reached out for help. Anyway social worker looked at My medical back ground and she bought up that I was diagnosed with assertive personality in 1995. I never even knew I was diagnosed with that first i have ever heard. I was only 18 then. Is it even relivent after all that time. ? Is it odd to dig that far back?

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MajesticWhine · 25/07/2023 23:41

How upsetting for you to find this out like this without any context.
A personality disorder identified at age 18 isn't reliable in later adulthood. The personality is still developing at that age.

WeetabixTowels · 25/07/2023 23:44

Shouldichangename · 25/07/2023 23:37

No had nothing like that in pregnancy records . I was not pregnant in 1995

No but they ask for medical history and IIRC may take some from your medical records - especially if it’s MH related.

Id get clarity from the SW on how she’s accessed that information

Shouldichangename · 25/07/2023 23:59

MajesticWhine · 25/07/2023 23:41

How upsetting for you to find this out like this without any context.
A personality disorder identified at age 18 isn't reliable in later adulthood. The personality is still developing at that age.

Yes so I'm definitely going to bring it up. I writing . There is a group email which includes other professionals. So I'm going to put it on there. She should have spoken to.me about it. But then maybe she did not know that I didn't know 🤔

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Shouldichangename · 26/07/2023 00:00

WeetabixTowels · 25/07/2023 23:44

No but they ask for medical history and IIRC may take some from your medical records - especially if it’s MH related.

Id get clarity from the SW on how she’s accessed that information

If midwife or HV asked about medical history I would not have mentioned it. Because I didn't know myself

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SocialLite · 26/07/2023 07:46

carleyemma91 · 25/07/2023 22:54

@Shouldichangename that's fair enough if that's how you feel, if you've got a short medical history (or the GP still has it logged as an ongoing issue with no end date) then it'll likely be all on one page with no scrolling required.

I'm certainly not trying to minimise your feelings on this, just trying to shed a bit of light as to how that information might have been viewed by the social worker.

Exactly this- it will be down as an ongoing diagnosis with no end date.

Shouldichangename · 26/07/2023 09:09

SocialLite · 26/07/2023 07:46

Exactly this- it will be down as an ongoing diagnosis with no end date.

I sent an email this morning. I made sure it was sent to the 8 other people that have the report as well so everyone knows what I have said.

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Shouldichangename · 26/07/2023 12:19

I had a reply and all she said was thank you for the feed back. What does that even mean?

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DarkWingDuck · 26/07/2023 12:30

it doesn’t sound like this is the social workers fault- they are just the messenger. Call your GP make them take it off your record and let the social worker know that you want it removing from their records also, unless they have cause to believe it is currently relevant.

Shouldichangename · 26/07/2023 12:37

DarkWingDuck · 26/07/2023 12:30

it doesn’t sound like this is the social workers fault- they are just the messenger. Call your GP make them take it off your record and let the social worker know that you want it removing from their records also, unless they have cause to believe it is currently relevant.

It's the social worker who put it on the social Work report . Not the GP

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DarkWingDuck · 26/07/2023 12:41

Sorry I thought you said they took it from the GP record. If it came from the GP record that’s the source of it. Get it taken off there and then ask the social worker to remove it from their report.

Shouldichangename · 26/07/2023 13:07

DarkWingDuck · 26/07/2023 12:41

Sorry I thought you said they took it from the GP record. If it came from the GP record that’s the source of it. Get it taken off there and then ask the social worker to remove it from their report.

Yeah it originally came from gp it's on my files . But the social worker still choose to add it. . I did email her but all she's out is thank you for the feedback.

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SocialLite · 01/08/2023 14:00

If information is provided by another professional like the gp, the social worker can’t choose to ignore it- but they will balance this against all the other information. When they said thanks for the feedback, that’s an acknowledgement that they’ve heard what you’ve said, they should then take that into consideration.

@Shouldichangename has there been any progress since last week?

lancaster · 01/08/2023 14:04

Social Work can not access your medical notes without your express permission. I would be questioning how they got this information.

Leah5678 · 01/08/2023 14:14

Jellyx · 25/07/2023 21:42

Social work aren't a paid for service - you can't get a new one.

Incorrect

kkneat · 01/08/2023 14:22

@lancaster social workers can request medical information under section 47 without written consent. Good practice is to obtain consent first but don’t have to have it if a 47 (significant harm or risk of significant harm).
i would suggest the social worker should have discussed with you first before putting it in a report and the relevance but perhaps thought you knew. Was it in a report for conference?

Shouldichangename · 01/08/2023 14:42

SocialLite · 01/08/2023 14:00

If information is provided by another professional like the gp, the social worker can’t choose to ignore it- but they will balance this against all the other information. When they said thanks for the feedback, that’s an acknowledgement that they’ve heard what you’ve said, they should then take that into consideration.

@Shouldichangename has there been any progress since last week?

I can't even remember where I'm at 😅. But I have managed get the social worker at arms length.

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Shouldichangename · 01/08/2023 14:45

kkneat · 01/08/2023 14:22

@lancaster social workers can request medical information under section 47 without written consent. Good practice is to obtain consent first but don’t have to have it if a 47 (significant harm or risk of significant harm).
i would suggest the social worker should have discussed with you first before putting it in a report and the relevance but perhaps thought you knew. Was it in a report for conference?

I think it was a section 17. No it was not discussed. No there's Been no conference meeting. Only a meeting around the child.

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HolyHellaciousHeck · 01/08/2023 14:56

OP, I worry that the more you nitpick things the SW has done, however annoying those things are, the more you're going to end up 'putting the back up' of the social work department and that the effect of this will be that they increasingly see you as the problem to be solved, rather than your DS's behaviour.

I'm not saying you're wrong to feel aggrieved that the SW focuses on a random outdated diagnosis, or on your kids' vaccines not being up to date, or on their bedroom being messy, rather than on the presenting issue of your teen being violent. But honestly if I were you I would keep my head down, go along with what they say and jump through their hoops. Because otherwise I fear they're going to decide that you're a combative parent who won't take advice and that therefore you're the problem here, whereas what you want them to be doing is seeing you as amenable and willing to take advice, so that they can kind of check you off their list of factors when looking at how best to sort your son out.

Shouldichangename · 01/08/2023 15:10

Ah I get what your saying. But I have put things across to her manager. She's the one who said about the arms length thing. Also I have done all the things asked /suggested. I told the manger the issue is how I'm spoken to . And how things are put across. You can still get results by talking to people in a kinder manner and build up a better client /professional relationship. The manger has confirmed there's no concerns.

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Fraaahnces · 01/08/2023 15:20

Did you see a psychiatrist when you were a teenager? Affective personality disorders are a whole cluster of different things. I would assume this would have needed to be diagnosed by a psychiatrist. If it’s just random shit your GP has in their file, it may not even be a genuine diagnosis. If it IS correct, then your social worker may think that this is relevant to explain your DS’s behaviour. (Some people think they’re genetic.)

DaisyDreaming · 01/08/2023 15:29

They haven’t gone back years through youre notes (or unlikely to). The GP summary of health problems lists (or is meant to but some things are missing) all diagnosis’ in your life time, whether it’s current or not and the year of diagnosis. It’s a simple print out from the front page.
I would talk to your GP about what’s on your notes for the list of diagnosis and either have them put it in current tense or remove it if it’s not accurate and you weren’t diagnosed with it. Mine has a random diagnosis on although I’ve not bothered to have it removed as it’s not a serious one and doesn’t effect anything, that was back from the 90’s but is still showing up on the summary and sent with referrals

Shouldichangename · 01/08/2023 15:31

Fraaahnces · 01/08/2023 15:20

Did you see a psychiatrist when you were a teenager? Affective personality disorders are a whole cluster of different things. I would assume this would have needed to be diagnosed by a psychiatrist. If it’s just random shit your GP has in their file, it may not even be a genuine diagnosis. If it IS correct, then your social worker may think that this is relevant to explain your DS’s behaviour. (Some people think they’re genetic.)

Don't know. I'm gonna contact gp. I Need to know for myself anyway. Very odd not to discuss it with me though. But annoyed it's just put on report without a word said to me. Digging back to 1992-1995 is odd. But also shows there's nothing of theybhad to dig tjat far .

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SocialLite · 01/08/2023 23:32

Honestly, they won’t have been digging back, it’ll likely just be that it shows straight away as an active diagnosis- meaning nothing more than it was never ended in your records.

If it’s only a section 17, did you ever put a signature on any paperwork for the social worker? They shouldn’t have obtained medical records without you giving consent.

Shouldichangename · 02/08/2023 00:13

SocialLite · 01/08/2023 23:32

Honestly, they won’t have been digging back, it’ll likely just be that it shows straight away as an active diagnosis- meaning nothing more than it was never ended in your records.

If it’s only a section 17, did you ever put a signature on any paperwork for the social worker? They shouldn’t have obtained medical records without you giving consent.

I did sign section 17. But she had told me it's for the children she never said it was for me as well.

Either way weather she dag or not. Its still bad that she put that all on paper work without even talking to me.

There's a few things she's been sneaky about.

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crapactually · 02/08/2023 10:01

@Shouldichangename what's happening for you is relevant for the children so if they're doing an assessment then that will include your medical history and any other relevant information.

The other issue is what they include in the assessment. That is for the social worker and their manager to decide. You can provide your comments on the assessment but they need to do a thorough assessment.
They're not being underhand or dishonest, it's just the process.
I don't know if it helps to understand it's not personal.

I get it's a shock to read it especially if you were not aware of this potential diagnosis but that's something to take up with your GP and ask them to explain this.