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Social worker my medical history

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Shouldichangename · 25/07/2023 20:34

So my family have a social worker as we reached out for help. Anyway social worker looked at My medical back ground and she bought up that I was diagnosed with assertive personality in 1995. I never even knew I was diagnosed with that first i have ever heard. I was only 18 then. Is it even relivent after all that time. ? Is it odd to dig that far back?

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Aquaphant · 02/08/2023 18:15

Shouldichangename · 02/08/2023 18:02

I totally get what your saying and I agree hence I signed section 17. But its also about communication. Don't just write in a report that will be held on file for many years things about me from 93/95. Talk to me about it so we can explore. It may well still be written on the file but at least there could be some context. Something like depression/anxiety, personality disorder from 93/95. Discussed this with client who explains xyz.

As far as I'm concerned that's not working with families. That's just just writing shit down and no exploring. It also does not build Any trust which is needed.

Why would the SW question a diagnosis on your medical records? If they questioned that they would presumably be questioning all of your medical history and wouldn't that feel very invasive? You don't like this woman, so would you really want to have to explain your medical history and mental health background with her?

Your issue here shouldn't be with the social worker. She just reported on what the medical records said, who is she to question the validity of a diagnosis? It seems like your dislike of the social worker is clouding your thinking.

You'll need to speak to a GP about having that diagnosis removed (it's not even a real diagnosis, so they should be willing to edit it). After it's removed you can then request the SW edit her documents, although I don't see what material difference it would make in the end. Just be careful not to kick off with the social worker about this as it will just confirm whatever biases they have toward you.

Shouldichangename · 02/08/2023 18:21

Aquaphant · 02/08/2023 18:15

Why would the SW question a diagnosis on your medical records? If they questioned that they would presumably be questioning all of your medical history and wouldn't that feel very invasive? You don't like this woman, so would you really want to have to explain your medical history and mental health background with her?

Your issue here shouldn't be with the social worker. She just reported on what the medical records said, who is she to question the validity of a diagnosis? It seems like your dislike of the social worker is clouding your thinking.

You'll need to speak to a GP about having that diagnosis removed (it's not even a real diagnosis, so they should be willing to edit it). After it's removed you can then request the SW edit her documents, although I don't see what material difference it would make in the end. Just be careful not to kick off with the social worker about this as it will just confirm whatever biases they have toward you.

Your really not getting it. I just literally said I would rather she spoke to me about her findings.

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coldcouture · 02/08/2023 18:28

blackbeardsballsack · 02/08/2023 17:43

Can you really not understand why the information gathering process is so important in completing assessments? Do you think that social workers should accept the parent's narrative without exploring the context and family dynamics? It's adult focused practice that has led to so many failings and serious case reviews.

I'm very obviously not saying that OP has abused her child, I'm explaining why these processes are important. If my DC were being assessed, I would want the social worker to complete their assessments properly. I might know that I am a good parent, wouldn't expect a social worker to take my word for it.

Yes thank you, I can understand perfectly well that an information gather process is important. That point is not in dispute.

The point I am in fact making making is borrowed from Elizabeth Munro and acknowledges that children's interests are best served by a proportionate response to risk, and that change is contingent on the development of good relationships with families.

coldcouture · 02/08/2023 18:30

Sorry - that was typo-tastic, even by my standards.

Shouldichangename · 02/08/2023 18:39

coldcouture · 02/08/2023 18:28

Yes thank you, I can understand perfectly well that an information gather process is important. That point is not in dispute.

The point I am in fact making making is borrowed from Elizabeth Munro and acknowledges that children's interests are best served by a proportionate response to risk, and that change is contingent on the development of good relationships with families.

@coldcouture in blunt basic terms are you saying its better for the social worker to build up a relationship/trust with the family in order to work better with the family? There for the social worker still gets what needed bit in a better way?

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coldcouture · 02/08/2023 18:41

Eileen Munro. Wish MN had an edit button to spare the blushes of those of us crafting replies whilst cooking supper.

Aquaphant · 02/08/2023 18:50

Shouldichangename · 02/08/2023 18:21

Your really not getting it. I just literally said I would rather she spoke to me about her findings.

I definitely did get it. What would the point of her doing that be? If it's in your records it's presumed to be true, why would she discuss it? She doesn't need your approval or agreement to do her job.

bellac11 · 02/08/2023 18:54

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Now that Ive read the full thread, you're right, same person

I seem to recall a previous post of OP saying she signed consent for agency checks so why its now difficult to fathom how the SW checked the GP records I dont know.

Shouldichangename · 02/08/2023 19:00

bellac11 · 02/08/2023 18:54

Now that Ive read the full thread, you're right, same person

I seem to recall a previous post of OP saying she signed consent for agency checks so why its now difficult to fathom how the SW checked the GP records I dont know.

Extremely nasty nasty post

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crapactually · 02/08/2023 19:53

@Shouldichangename you seem fixated on the social worker not discussing the GP info with you but as others have tried to explain, before they wrote their report they had no reason to believe that wasn't accurate. You had the report and you've disputed that part of it so there's your right to reply. You've had it!

I really think you need to discuss this with your GP. Where did it come from, who made this assumption or diagnosis and what does this mean for you now. Maybe it was an assumption that's been taken as fact, maybe it's something that was being considered. Maybe they should have talked about it with you at the time and didn't. None of that is on the social worker so in this instance your frustration is misdirected.

I think you need to understand that on this specific point, your child's social worker hasn't done anything wrong. You are being told this by several people who do or have done this job.

Holly03 · 02/08/2023 20:09

No she is not without your permission. Put a complaint in now she’s reaching and going out of the realms of her job. I had a social worker so this to me and the gp confirmed she had lied and said she had my permission which she didn’t and even he confirmed there’s only certain things he could say to her without my permission and definitely not a print out. Check with your gp as to why she has got medical info on you without your permission

millionmAh · 02/08/2023 20:14

@Dibblydoodahdah you can ask for your summary care record to be deleted - this is the bit where specific conditions are recorded. However you cannot have entries in your records deleted even if they are totally untrue.

Polik · 02/08/2023 23:25

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I have reported your post with is very rare for me to do. You extremely igrant if you don't think teenagers can be abusive. And yes it does come under domestic hence why social worker has put him on a domestic violence programme. Do you honestly think they would ne doing that for the sake of it. Its because of people like you that parents are to afraid to come forward.

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Polik · 03/08/2023 00:04

I know its hard to hear OP. He is still a boy and a child. Someone still needs to look after him and care for him.

Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 00:09

Polik · 03/08/2023 00:04

I know its hard to hear OP. He is still a boy and a child. Someone still needs to look after him and care for him.

I sent a long reply and deleted . Because you have said enough and I'm not going let you suck me in.

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coldcouture · 03/08/2023 09:15

Judgey comments intended to shame OP are in especially poor taste on a domestic violence-related thread. We are in no position to assess what might be reasonable or necesssary in OP's family's situation.

OP is right, this sort of behviour stops women reaching out for help.

Polik · 03/08/2023 09:37

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Thekidsarefightingagain · 03/08/2023 09:39

I totally agree @coldcouture. A few friends have had child to parent domestic violence. In their cases child is ND, often PDA, and a lot of parent (usually mum) blaming does go on. Seems to be a common story sadly. Social services don't seem to know what to do or it could be about budgets or maybe they just don't understand not having experienced it themselves.

Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 09:43

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Well you have that wrong for a start. He threw a shower gel bottle at me with force which was full. 300ml. Now a can of coke is 330ml sp mot much different. You tell me of that was thrown at you with force that would not Hurt.

And yes it is DV . Social services vhave said this. He is being out in a dv programme .

This is also not somthing tjat gone on for a short period. You honestly think this has just been a typical teenage phase.

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Polik · 03/08/2023 09:53

Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 09:43

Well you have that wrong for a start. He threw a shower gel bottle at me with force which was full. 300ml. Now a can of coke is 330ml sp mot much different. You tell me of that was thrown at you with force that would not Hurt.

And yes it is DV . Social services vhave said this. He is being out in a dv programme .

This is also not somthing tjat gone on for a short period. You honestly think this has just been a typical teenage phase.

So you wanted him to go into care because of this?

SheIIy · 03/08/2023 09:55

Social services barely step in when a child is being badly abused so they probably do have good reason to want to be involved.

It's not for any of us to judge. Op shouldn't have to air out her private business on the internet to be believed.

Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 10:00

Polik · 03/08/2023 09:53

So you wanted him to go into care because of this?

(Want) him to is totally different to needs to. And your totally wrong because of this. You think all of the detail and reasons are in one post. You honestly think this is it. You have no idea you really don't.

And your way behinde on the situation as well

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Shouldichangename · 03/08/2023 10:29

SheIIy · 03/08/2023 09:55

Social services barely step in when a child is being badly abused so they probably do have good reason to want to be involved.

It's not for any of us to judge. Op shouldn't have to air out her private business on the internet to be believed.

There's not a child being abused. We also reached out for help .

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SocialLite · 03/08/2023 11:51

If there is a violent person in the household, the children (including the perpetrator) are at risk. Therefore the whole situation has to be evaluated.

That's not to say it's your parenting at fault, it may or may not be and we can't say as we're don't have the full information. But those who do have the full information have to use that to make an assessment of what the risks are and what supported is both necessary and possible.

Even if they find there is absolutely no fault on your part then your history could play a role in deciding what support is useful and in what ways it can be implemented.

It would be like complaining, as an example, that they've noted that you don't drive. You could take that as a criticism, but it might just be noted so that when putting support in place they don't set up anything that requires you to drive.

What worried me is that you're assuming it's a criticism and that they've dug for it, when it's highly likely that neither is the case.

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