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Rishi triumphs over the teaching unions!

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noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 13:43

He has managed to beat the teaching unions into submission and to call off strikes by:

Offering them a pay deal worth more than double the original government recommendation

Giving schools extra funding to pay for it.

Well done Rishi, you really showed them!

https://twitter.com/rishisunak/status/1679462222655881218?s=46&t=vKGM6xpoeW3wdlaVVVagQA

https://twitter.com/rishisunak/status/1679462222655881218?s=46&t=vKGM6xpoeW3wdlaVVVagQA

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noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:12

Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 18:04

You guys all said if you pay us properly you will attract new talent into teaching, and retain the current staff therefore ensuring the future success and academic prosperity for many years to come.

That’s why you are all striking remember? For the children you said. Not for your bank balance. Have you forgotten?

Do you understand that improving teacher pay is necessary to improve teacher recruitment and retention but is not sufficient?

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Piggywaspushed · 13/07/2023 18:13

Nightlystroll · 13/07/2023 18:09

Your opening post was a sarcastic moan. You couldn't just say, great, I'm happy with what Sunak has done. You had to couch it in a gripe.

It's irony.

No one is happy.

It's ridiculous the games he has played with this.

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:13

If we can’t strike about anything other than pay but the strike wasn’t about pay then we should not have used strike(s) as a way of resolving those issues.

Raising these issues.

No one has let us talk about these issues otherwise.

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3BSHKATS · 13/07/2023 18:14

Personally, I think the doctors the teachers, the Armed Forces underplay should tell him to shove it up his arse inflation is 10%

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:14

First sign of money in your pocket and you've abandoned the cause.

What do you mean I've abandoned the cause?

I've been raising these issues long before anyone balloted for strike action over them and I'm pretty sure I'll be continuing to raise them into the future.

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Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 18:15

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:12

Do you understand that improving teacher pay is necessary to improve teacher recruitment and retention but is not sufficient?

Ooohh. So the goal posts move again. Another excuse is coming

Anxioys · 13/07/2023 18:15

What a shit tip offer from the government designed to divide people. I would have NO confidence it would be paid out before the next election

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:15

Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 18:15

Ooohh. So the goal posts move again. Another excuse is coming

Eh?

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Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 18:16

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Did you believe any of it? I didn’t. It was always about the money pure and simple.

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:17

You said "weeks and weeks drumming up support on MN"

Weeks? Like, you need to look at my back catalogue of threads a bit more closely. Try years, mate.

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Piggywaspushed · 13/07/2023 18:18

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I genuinely don't read it like she said that?

SkyLarkDescending · 13/07/2023 18:18

Why does everyone try to make everything so black and white these days? Teachers ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO STRIKE ABOUT PAY. So yes, the strike was about pay. But for the vast majority of us, it isn't ONLY about pay. We wanted to highlight the issues that schools are facing day in, day out because things are getting continuously worse.

Noble and others on here have been talking about these issues for YEARS. Frankly, if you've only paid attention for the last few months, I would question how much interest you have in your own child's education.

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Hereinthismoment · 13/07/2023 18:21

No one has let us talk about these issues otherwise

Since when were the NEU backwards about coming forwards? That’s not a snarky remark, it’s a genuine point. There was absolutely nothing to stop them organising rallies, marches, whatever they like.

We went on strike for a pay rise: we have a pay rise: all is well in my world anyway.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 13/07/2023 18:23

kirinm · 13/07/2023 17:28

They fucking did by supporting your strikes and turning up to fucking marches. They turn up to help out at school, they fund trips other children's parents can't afford, they volunteer for activities so they can go ahead.

Can you send some of these mythical parents our way, please? We can trade you the ones who are only ever in contact to complain that we're doing something they don't want to be offered to their kids, that we're not doing something they want to be offered to their kids, or that whatever it is that we are (or aren't) offering to their kids is being done Wrong.

Nightlystroll · 13/07/2023 18:23

Piggywaspushed · 13/07/2023 18:13

It's irony.

No one is happy.

It's ridiculous the games he has played with this.

So are you happy or are you not happy? Because I can't tell. I thought the op was mocking Sunak because he'd given in on what the union wanted but was touting it as a victory for the govt.

Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 18:24

Hereinthismoment · 13/07/2023 18:21

No one has let us talk about these issues otherwise

Since when were the NEU backwards about coming forwards? That’s not a snarky remark, it’s a genuine point. There was absolutely nothing to stop them organising rallies, marches, whatever they like.

We went on strike for a pay rise: we have a pay rise: all is well in my world anyway.

So you didn’t strike for recruitment, retention, extra books, classes etc? Just for you and your bank balance?

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:24

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Cut and run? Like, you think I'm going to stop kicking off about issues in schools? On what evidence?

There are many, many people who would be delighted to see that happen, mind.

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Piggywaspushed · 13/07/2023 18:25

Me ? Personally? Not happy. I think the unions have rolled over and been sucked into arguments about funding.

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 18:27

Since when were the NEU backwards about coming forwards? That’s not a snarky remark, it’s a genuine point.

But I'm not talking about the NEU, I'm talking about people in the media actually paying attention to education as an issue and not just the usual shite moaning about lazy teachers.

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Piggywaspushed · 13/07/2023 18:27

Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 18:24

So you didn’t strike for recruitment, retention, extra books, classes etc? Just for you and your bank balance?

If you pay teachers better, you get more teachers. If a government values education, they pay teachers better and fund it properly.

As someone on Twitter said, we're still agreeing to a pay cut , just less of a pay cut.

spanieleyes · 13/07/2023 18:27

Given that noblegiraffe has been banging on about drop in recruitment and retention, conditions of service, dilapidated buildings, training issues and a host of other problems for YEARS, I don't think they are suddenly going to go quietly into the dark! Yes, pay may have been partially resolved but all the other issues still exist. We just can't strike about those. We can shout and scream and try to raise awareness, get parents to have SOME understanding of the issues education faces but we can't strike about them.

kirinm · 13/07/2023 18:28

It's weird. None of my teacher friends or my kids teachers are as shitty as the ones on here.

Never mind the 'mythical' parents who were also fucked every day of the strike but supported them anyway.

MrsHamlet · 13/07/2023 18:28

Wouldn't it be nice if some posters just admitted that whatever the OP posts, they'd slag her off about it?