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How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

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user6482952 · 13/07/2023 08:57

Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

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WhatADrabCarpet · 14/07/2023 22:13

Huw Edwards has suffered with severe depression for decades.

Depending on co-morbidities, he will swing from high to low moods v quickly.

One minute you're a loser , the next, you're invincible.
It sounds like the invincible in him was talking when he made his mistakes.

As to Schofield... who knows. Just sounds like poor judgment based on his famous personality.

DajeMama2 · 14/07/2023 22:17

I am laughing so hard here. As if older men don't watch porn. And I'm betting men over 60 aren't watching porn full of other 60 year olds 🤣

If this is truly just a man paying for OnlyFans content, then it's no one's business. Saying "we pay his wages so we are allowed to care" is pious and hypocritical because we pay everyone's wages with what we choose to consume. Because you buy bread from Tesco, do you think that gives you a right to know what the CEO of Tesco does with their sex life?

But also....Al Pacino anyone? Leonardo DiCaprio? Here are people actually dating very young women in real life, not just paying for a cam boy/girl.

(Again, happy to eat my hat if this is more than buying OnlyFans content, but I'd have to hear the particulars, and really it's none of my business if it's not illegal)

EnfysPreseli · 14/07/2023 22:41

"Section 28 was only abolished in 2003. Up until then there is absolutely no way you would be able to be an out news presenter for fear of being accused of promoting homosexuality."

Section 28 was abhorrent but the amount of disinformation about a legal restriction the Local Government Act 1988 placed on local authorities - not individuals, journalists or broadcasters - is ridiculous. It did have a negative impact, yes, but societal attitudes continued to become more enlightened.

There were absolutely no prosecutions under Section 28. It was a nasty, discriminatory legal provision that had a chilling effect and should never have existed. It should have been repealed far earlier, but most people worked around or just ignored it.

Of course past attitudes towards homosexuality and same sex relationships would have made people less likely to come out publicly even if they were in (or having) lesbian or gay relationships. I don't think it justifies what appears to have been happening in either PS's or HE's cases.

twelly · 14/07/2023 22:43

Neither has as far as we know committed any crime therefore their lives in my view are their own business - we don't know the full facts and neither should we. As far as their employment is concerned that is between them and their employer not the general public.

EnfysPreseli · 14/07/2023 22:53

There's been no mention of Only Fans apart from in speculation about the circumstances. Based on the admittedly sketchy detail of the 4 cases we know about it seems that HE was DMing one of his Insta followers and moving onto other messaging platforms after meeting another on a dating app.

OnlyFans is problematic in any case, but buying or giving cash gifts in return for sexual material solicited from a young person 40+ your junior through other means of contacting them is exploitation, whether the young person realises it or not.

Efacsen · 14/07/2023 23:04

Some worrying stuff tonight beginning to leak out onto SM from angry 'friends of the family' in Wales

It won't be long IMO before the young person and their family are identified and their facebook photos plastered everywhere

What an awful prospect for them but particularly the young person
Sad

EnfysPreseli · 15/07/2023 00:10

That's awful. Shocking how quickly people seem to have forgotten about the young person and his family. Even if he genuinely believes that he is not being exploited, the circumstances are clearly complex and he is vulnerable. I doubt whether the Sun would have been the first port of call when the parents decided that they needed to go to the media. Perhaps the Welsh media felt that the evidence wasn't strong enough for them to be able to run with anything if they approached them first. The response of some people in Wales who are taking sides at this stage will also make other young people experiencing exploitation or abuse less likely to speak out. Lots of us feel sad for HE as well as for his family and all others affected. The proper processes need to be followed. Sefyllfa trychinebus.

Rhondaa · 15/07/2023 09:45

twelly · 14/07/2023 22:43

Neither has as far as we know committed any crime therefore their lives in my view are their own business - we don't know the full facts and neither should we. As far as their employment is concerned that is between them and their employer not the general public.

I wonder if Edwards thought Philip Schofield's life was his 'own business' when like every other channel he too reported on it on the news. Or do you think it should be one rule for ITV presenters and another for those on the BBC?!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/07/2023 09:49

Neither has as far as we know committed any crime therefore their lives in my view are their own business

Christ, some people's bar for decent behaviour is so low it's scraping the ground. So someone can be abusive, exploitative and threatening but as long as they haven't committed a crime that's OK?

Riverlee · 15/07/2023 13:08

It’s just dawned on me the Ps And HE are the same age. HE seems older somehow.

LacieLane · 15/07/2023 13:17

And how are either much different to Boris Johnson. Large age gap, liar, affairs while married.

Yet I fuss at all.

Idontpostmuch · 15/07/2023 13:24

user6482952 · 13/07/2023 08:57

Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

@user6482952 Do we know it was a younger man? All reports refer to the 'young person'. There's been speculation in the past about HE being gay, but as far as I can tell that was only because he was standing up for gay rights. Am I missing something? Has the gender of young person been revealed?

Idontpostmuch · 15/07/2023 13:33

SirVixofVixHall · 14/07/2023 16:50

I have a very similar history to you EnfysPreseli and I agree.

@EnfysPreseli @SirVixofVixHall Sounds as if Wales is like small town West of Scotland minus the haggis chasing- completely misunderstood and written off as a cultural backwater. I'm of the same vintage and agree with both of you. @EnfysPreseli Not at all naive.

Mrsjayy · 15/07/2023 13:45

Riverlee · 15/07/2023 13:08

It’s just dawned on me the Ps And HE are the same age. HE seems older somehow.

It's because PS used to arse about on Snapchat being drunk and " hilarious" and have a young BFF who they could go on holiday with a laugh at nothing on the telly,

MrsPapadopolis · 15/07/2023 14:50

LacieLane · 15/07/2023 13:17

And how are either much different to Boris Johnson. Large age gap, liar, affairs while married.

Yet I fuss at all.

Where is the evidence that HE had affairs ?

AnnieSnap · 15/07/2023 16:27

MrsPapadopolis · 15/07/2023 14:50

Where is the evidence that HE had affairs ?

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😳 You are joking, yes?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 15/07/2023 16:47

DajeMama2 · 14/07/2023 18:13

Section 28 was only abolished in 2003. Up until then there is absolutely no way you would be able to be an out news presenter for fear of being accused of promoting homosexuality. Put that with the backdrop of the AIDS epidemic and certainly there are many reasons a gay man would not come out.

Being forced to be in the closet is horrendous. What it does to your mental health is so damaging. Obviously this does not excuse illegal behaviour. But honestly, who cares if a man denied his sexuality as a younger bloke acts a bit smutty or is hiding secrets of his private life. Who knows what arrangement he and his wife had? Plenty of gay men his age would have married a woman, had kids, lived a straight-appearing life out of necessity/fear/shame. If this really is just a man paying for sexy photos on OnlyFans or even consensual sex - it's none of our business.

I agree. It's easy to forget how attitudes were in the 80's around being a gay man.

Blossomtoes · 15/07/2023 17:10

AnnieSnap · 15/07/2023 16:27

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😳 You are joking, yes?

Why? There’s been no evidence of anything yet. There hasn’t even been any allegation of affairs.

Rhondaa · 15/07/2023 17:59

Blossomtoes · 15/07/2023 17:10

Why? There’s been no evidence of anything yet. There hasn’t even been any allegation of affairs.

Well someone has seen some evidence or else he wouldn't have retreated to get his story straight.

No not allegations of affairs per se, much worse than that.

Blossomtoes · 15/07/2023 18:10

Rhondaa · 15/07/2023 17:59

Well someone has seen some evidence or else he wouldn't have retreated to get his story straight.

No not allegations of affairs per se, much worse than that.

He’s ill, not getting his story straight. Odd that not a jot of evidence has been forthcoming, wouldn’t you say? Nothing. Nada. Zero.

AnnieSnap · 15/07/2023 18:30

Blossomtoes · 15/07/2023 17:10

Why? There’s been no evidence of anything yet. There hasn’t even been any allegation of affairs.

Johnson’s current much younger wife was one of his affairs whilst his wife was dealing with cancer!

MrsPapadopolis · 15/07/2023 18:32

AnnieSnap · 15/07/2023 16:27

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😳 You are joking, yes?

No, I'm not.
I repeat, please show me the evidence that HE had affairs.

Rhondaa · 15/07/2023 19:02

MrsPapadopolis · 15/07/2023 18:32

No, I'm not.
I repeat, please show me the evidence that HE had affairs.

We have to wait for the BBC to conclude their inquiries, we can't just access evidence willy nilly that would not be legal. However surely he'd refute claims from the outset if it was all a misunderstanding?

Blossomtoes · 15/07/2023 19:06

Rhondaa · 15/07/2023 19:02

We have to wait for the BBC to conclude their inquiries, we can't just access evidence willy nilly that would not be legal. However surely he'd refute claims from the outset if it was all a misunderstanding?

He wasn’t named at the outset. It took five days of conjecture and witch hunting before we even knew who it was by which time he was so ill he was admitted as an inpatient. No evidence. Not a shred. You do know what you’re doing is defamation, don’t you?

Bringonthepitchforks · 15/07/2023 19:07

Rhondaa · 15/07/2023 19:02

We have to wait for the BBC to conclude their inquiries, we can't just access evidence willy nilly that would not be legal. However surely he'd refute claims from the outset if it was all a misunderstanding?

Yet you seem so confident of his guilt and that he's gone into hiding not that he's having a severe mental health episode (of which he has a well documented history) following a week that everyone freely admits would batter their own mental health.

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