Page 15 | How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

user6482952 · 2023-07-13T07:57:28+00:00

Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing. How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

savory · 13/07/2023 21:09

Dumbonellyfant · 13/07/2023 21:01

Dan... apparently nothing, was all his mate Martin Branning

Dan just allegedly hid Martins blackmailing sex tapes for him of colleagues recorded in secret. Martin did the recording allegedly

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https://democracyunlocked.co.uk/sex-scandal-dan-wootton-latest-presenter-to-face-allegations/

SEX SCANDAL: Dan Wootton latest Presenter to face allegations

GBNews star Dan Wootton faces fresh allegations from his former partner.

https://democracyunlocked.co.uk/sex-scandal-dan-wootton-latest-presenter-to-face-allegations

Heresme33 · 13/07/2023 21:09

They are both disgusting old men preying on teenagers now hew has disappeared into the woodwork and left his wife to do a clean up job for him. Cant take the heat them stay out of the kitchen.

Dumbonellyfant · 13/07/2023 21:16

Sorry I was trying to make a joke about Dan from what I gleaned in 2 mins on twitter but I now see he also allegedly harassed and stalked an ex and blackmailed colleagues for explicit sexual content

AnnieSnap · 13/07/2023 21:18

SoWhatEh · 13/07/2023 09:20

To me there are big differences. Schofield had a relationship with someone he knew and worked with. There was common ground and years of friendship and shared experience. Whether that was grooming or not, I don't know, but the younger man had a job at a prestigious place. His life was on track. However morally dubious the motives, Schofield was helping this boy's career progress.

Edwards presents himself as a model of probity. A pillar of the church, an earnest presenter, trusted to handle the biggest royal stories. Meanwhile he is paying thousands to a very young sex worker to perform on screen for him over a number of years. It would be evident from the boy's body and behaviour that he is in decline. And the fact he is on Only Fans of a similar platform at a young age suggests his life is on a downward spiral in itself. To not care, to have no compassion about this, but to pour money into it so the boy can fund a crack habit just to let your willy go hard for a few minutes? Repulsive.

Of the two I think one is a weak man and one is a wicked man. If the stories against HE are true. Which they are not yet proven to be.

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the80sweregreat · 13/07/2023 21:19

That info on Dan was awful
I assume he has been less than sympathetic to HE / PS etc too ? I don't follow him , although I've heard of him and I don't go on Twitter much.
Blackmail and extortion. No wonder his gone to ground

TomorrowToday · 13/07/2023 21:59

PS is a gay man which isn't an issue. However he lied about it to everyone and claimed he could never come out. Didn't do Michael Barrymore any harm. Dale Winton etc.

He had sex with a young person, he cheated on his wife.

HE paid for pictures from an adult and didn't fuck her or him. The only concern is that the person had a crack cocaine problem and the bbc "didn't get involved" despite the fact they should.

Riverlee · 13/07/2023 22:06

I was never sure whether the young person had a crack cocaine habit because of what he did, or he did what he did to fuel the habit. Is. To get money for drugs. Was HE aware of the drug habit and realised he was fuelling it? Was the mother expecting the BBC, or HE to fund recovery for this?

DajeMama2 · 13/07/2023 22:53

From what I'm hearing Huw bought photos from OnlyFans. This is not a crime, nor any of anyone's business. Might not be to everyone's tastes but it's his private life and I'm 100% guessing half your husbands have checked out OnlyFans 🤣
Also if he is a closeted gay man, then he has likely been dealing with horrendous shame, internalised homophobia and all of the awful things that come along with not living your true self. It adds an extra element to the story that many folks just won't understand.

Happy to eat my hat if it turns out the OnlyFans theory is incorrect!

DajeMama2 · 13/07/2023 22:57

Also, The Sun is an absolutely scummy newspaper owned by Murdoch, who is actively out to dismantle the BBC. What could damage them the most? A spicy story about it's top paid news presenter. Shame on them.

StefanosHill · 13/07/2023 23:00

DajeMama2 · 13/07/2023 22:57

Also, The Sun is an absolutely scummy newspaper owned by Murdoch, who is actively out to dismantle the BBC. What could damage them the most? A spicy story about it's top paid news presenter. Shame on them.

Ha at spicy. I’m sure he wishes spicy covered it

EnfysPreseli · 13/07/2023 23:04

Festoonedflurryfairy · 13/07/2023 21:04

I bow to your greater knowledge about homophobia in Welsh broadcasting EnfysPreseli but where does internalised homophobia come from? Or what is it in response to? It doesn’t come about in a vacuum!

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As I said, his faith and family background. I think his chosen work environment was far more accepting of homosexuality and bisexuality than the cultural and religious tradition he was raised in. He has spoken of a sometimes difficult relationship with his father, who was well-known in Welsh-speaking Wales. Many of us have experience of the same culture and its contradictions.

None of that, of course, is an excuse for exploiting young people 40 years younger than him.

IveShaggedSomeMingers · 13/07/2023 23:13

DajeMama2 · 13/07/2023 22:57

Also, The Sun is an absolutely scummy newspaper owned by Murdoch, who is actively out to dismantle the BBC. What could damage them the most? A spicy story about it's top paid news presenter. Shame on them.

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RebelR · 13/07/2023 23:25

EnfysPreseli · 13/07/2023 23:04

As I said, his faith and family background. I think his chosen work environment was far more accepting of homosexuality and bisexuality than the cultural and religious tradition he was raised in. He has spoken of a sometimes difficult relationship with his father, who was well-known in Welsh-speaking Wales. Many of us have experience of the same culture and its contradictions.

None of that, of course, is an excuse for exploiting young people 40 years younger than him.

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If his faith was so problematic for him, he didn't need to do Songs Of Praise. I think that makes this one different to me, all that moralising, telling the rest of us how to live when he knew what he was up to, whatever his reasons.

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2023 23:31

I’ve never heard him moralising or telling anyone how to live. But then I’m not much given to watching Songs of Praise - did he really do that? I can’t imagine it.

WhatsupWhatsApp · 14/07/2023 01:24

PTSDBarbiegirl · 13/07/2023 10:11

Girls and women are expected to be abused by men & older men. I think there is a toxic masculinity homophobia tinge to the story but mysogyny and patriarchal society are what cause lives and health of girls and women to be so undervalued.

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True. There are 2 Hollywood male actors in 80s having kids with women young enough to be their grand daughters.

powershowerforanhour · 14/07/2023 02:35

"I think his chosen work environment was far more accepting of homosexuality and bisexuality than the cultural and religious tradition he was raised in. He has spoken of a sometimes difficult relationship with his father, who was well-known in Welsh-speaking Wales. Many of us have experience of the same culture and its contradictions."

Nigel Owens grew up in Welsh speaking Wales, playing then refereeing rugby and working as a seefarmhand (and now farms his own cattle). And also had mental health issues as is well known. But dealt with it all, came out and carried on being one of the best, if not the best and most respected rugby referees ever.
But he
a) has/had really supportive parents
b) wasn't hidebound by religion
c) seems like a nice kind bloke who cares about other people

RebelR · 14/07/2023 06:26

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2023 23:31

I’ve never heard him moralising or telling anyone how to live. But then I’m not much given to watching Songs of Praise - did he really do that? I can’t imagine it.

Isn't that what Song of Praise does? The whole point of Songs of Praise?

Alighttouchonthetiller · 14/07/2023 07:12

RebelR · 14/07/2023 06:26

Isn't that what Song of Praise does? The whole point of Songs of Praise?

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Er....no.

It's been a while since I watched it, but it was always a rather gentle programme about worship and faith, with lovely hymn-singing. If you're thinking it was Huw Edwards in a pulpit, preaching fire and brimstone at a cowering congregation, then I'm sorry to disappoint you.

Maybe you should give it a watch. It's big on kindness to others and forgiveness. You might find it helpful.

Mrsjayy · 14/07/2023 07:52

Dumbonellyfant · 13/07/2023 21:01

Dan... apparently nothing, was all his mate Martin Branning

Dan just allegedly hid Martins blackmailing sex tapes for him of colleagues recorded in secret. Martin did the recording allegedly

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What's this who's sex tapes ?

the80sweregreat · 14/07/2023 07:53

The bbc filmed Songs of praise at a church near where I used to live in the very early 80s, but with nobody famous presenting it and they had to combine several churches congregations in the area in order to get enough people to attend the filming of it apparently.
It used to have a regular Sunday evening slot and has had many different presenters over the years, but now it's on Sunday afternoons I think
I don't know anyone who watches it, but it's been on for years and years from different locations and areas of the country.
I do remember HE being on it years ago.

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 07:54

They did a programme here too. Apart from being filmed in a church and featuring hymn singing it was pretty much secular from what I remember.

Mrsjayy · 14/07/2023 07:57

Mrsjayy · 14/07/2023 07:52

What's this who's sex tapes ?

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Oh I've just googled this ,well Naughty Dan . As I said DW is a slug.

the80sweregreat · 14/07/2023 08:02

I grew up on a large council estate and several churches had to combine together as the congregation was low and the maintenance too high for many to stay open. One was even knocked down and re built.
Where I live now they seem to have many churches around of every kind of religion going and I'm surprised at how many people go along. It's not a world I have ever been part of myself , apparently our local popular C /E one is a bit cliquey , but you get that everywhere I suppose and we have a few faith schools around too.

the80sweregreat · 14/07/2023 08:03

Dan's been found out apparently and off air
It's a seedy old world

ThreeRingCircus · 14/07/2023 08:04

I think both PS and HE have behaved disgustingly and deserve to lose their jobs.

However, I do see a difference between them.

PS met the young man when he was 15, got him a job at ITV, started a sexual relationship (apparently once legal age) and then had him moved on when the relationship went south. It's classic grooming/power imbalance at work. Add into that PS's brother and that he knew about him having contact with children and didn't go to the police AND that there were rumours he was absolutely toxic at work then he comes off very badly.

HE also comes off badly, it's totally grim for a married middle aged man to be sexting/messaging young people but they were people online open to being contacted. He didn't try to get them a job or have their careers ruined when he was done with them. What he's done is dreadful, I don't want to see him back in his job but I do think it's slightly different from PS.