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How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

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user6482952 · 13/07/2023 08:57

Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

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Efacsen · 14/07/2023 12:45

JulieHoney · 14/07/2023 12:22

Absolute bullshit.

Huw Edwards has been refreshingly open about his significant mental health issues for decades, has co-presented a programme on the topic and about needing in-patient care in the past.

He’s not popped to the Priory claiming a sex-addiction and MH issues like some sleazy blokes in the public eye, he is in hospital.

I think he’s behaved atrociously to Vicky Flind (a very talented and highly respected television producer) and his children.

However, let’s not pretend his mental health crisis is sympathy-seeking waffle to deflect from his actions. Ms Flind’s statement was dignified and succinct.

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Completely agree

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 12:47

Efacsen · 14/07/2023 12:45

Completely agree

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Same.

RebelR · 14/07/2023 12:49

JulieHoney · 14/07/2023 12:22

Absolute bullshit.

Huw Edwards has been refreshingly open about his significant mental health issues for decades, has co-presented a programme on the topic and about needing in-patient care in the past.

He’s not popped to the Priory claiming a sex-addiction and MH issues like some sleazy blokes in the public eye, he is in hospital.

I think he’s behaved atrociously to Vicky Flind (a very talented and highly respected television producer) and his children.

However, let’s not pretend his mental health crisis is sympathy-seeking waffle to deflect from his actions. Ms Flind’s statement was dignified and succinct.

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It probably is caused/ exacerbated by all the secrets and lies though.

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 12:58

'Huw Edwards has been refreshingly open about his significant mental health issues for decades, has co-presented a programme on the topic and about needing in-patient care in the past.'

Yes and that is all lovely.

What isn't lovely is shoehorning it in 'the statement' as if it somehow is relevant.

If the allegations aren't true a strong rebuttal is all that was required.

Didn't you think the lack any denial was odd yet a monologue about his health was thought relevant?

JulieHoney · 14/07/2023 13:10

Didn't you think the lack any denial was odd yet a monologue about his health was thought relevant?

Did you think Vicky Flind was pretending any of it isn’t true?

She confirmed he was the person at the heart of the stories and that he was hospitalised for mental health so was not in a position to discuss it. She asked for some privacy for herself and her family.

All very reasonable of her.

She can’t say what is true and what isn’t, as she isn’t the one involved.

The police believe he did nothing illegal.

It’s about him behaving immorally, which the tabloids love to whip up into a frenzy, and whether he behaved unprofessionally at the workplace such that BBC needs to take action - which we do not yet know.

It’s nothing like PS grooming a child and shagging him once he was legal.

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 13:17

'She can’t say what is true and what isn’t, as she isn’t the one involved.'

Any celeb, caught with their knickers down <allegedly>, alway says 'I strongly deny any wrong doing'. They don't list medical history in an attempt to apparently excuse or explain their behaviour.

As she 'isn't the one involved' she shouldn't have said anything at all. Perhaps leave it to his legal team.

Efacsen · 14/07/2023 13:36

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 13:17

'She can’t say what is true and what isn’t, as she isn’t the one involved.'

Any celeb, caught with their knickers down <allegedly>, alway says 'I strongly deny any wrong doing'. They don't list medical history in an attempt to apparently excuse or explain their behaviour.

As she 'isn't the one involved' she shouldn't have said anything at all. Perhaps leave it to his legal team.

How on earth have you managed to misunderstand a fairly brief written statement sent to PA - no monologuing

Purpose of the statement was twofold

To confirm the un-named presenter as Huw Edwards
To explain why she was making the statement on his behalf

She also said he would address the allegations when he was well

Nothing else

Everything else that you have 'interpreted' is just empty speculation on your part

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 13:38

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 13:17

'She can’t say what is true and what isn’t, as she isn’t the one involved.'

Any celeb, caught with their knickers down <allegedly>, alway says 'I strongly deny any wrong doing'. They don't list medical history in an attempt to apparently excuse or explain their behaviour.

As she 'isn't the one involved' she shouldn't have said anything at all. Perhaps leave it to his legal team.

I expect his lawyers drafted the statement and their best advice was that she issued it. The feeling generally is that it was the right thing to do and she’s getting a great deal of respect for issuing the statement. If she’d “left it to his legal team” people like you would have been shouting about “hiding behind lawyers”. However it was handled it wouldn’t have been right. It’s lose/lose with some people.

Juanmartinez · 14/07/2023 13:41

I think she said all she could say really , she had to say he was unwell otherwise people would be wondering why it was her making the statement .

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 13:48

Efacsen · 14/07/2023 13:36

How on earth have you managed to misunderstand a fairly brief written statement sent to PA - no monologuing

Purpose of the statement was twofold

To confirm the un-named presenter as Huw Edwards
To explain why she was making the statement on his behalf

She also said he would address the allegations when he was well

Nothing else

Everything else that you have 'interpreted' is just empty speculation on your part

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You must have missed the inappropriate mental health stuff. Poor man, surely he could havre some confidentiality around his health even if we all know allegedly what he gets up to in his spare time.

Women should not speak for their husbands in grim situations like this. Just support your kids and leave staff to do the speeches.

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 13:52

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 13:48

You must have missed the inappropriate mental health stuff. Poor man, surely he could havre some confidentiality around his health even if we all know allegedly what he gets up to in his spare time.

Women should not speak for their husbands in grim situations like this. Just support your kids and leave staff to do the speeches.

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Make up your mind. One minute she’s wrong because she hasn’t denied the allegations - too little. The next she’s wrong to comment on his health - too much. What “staff”? They’re not royalty.

Efacsen · 14/07/2023 13:55

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 13:48

You must have missed the inappropriate mental health stuff. Poor man, surely he could havre some confidentiality around his health even if we all know allegedly what he gets up to in his spare time.

Women should not speak for their husbands in grim situations like this. Just support your kids and leave staff to do the speeches.

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Nope didn't miss anything

You seem to have seen a completely different statement that contains ''inappropriate health stuff''

Women can choose to support/not support their spouses - none of your business

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 13:57

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 13:52

Make up your mind. One minute she’s wrong because she hasn’t denied the allegations - too little. The next she’s wrong to comment on his health - too much. What “staff”? They’re not royalty.

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Well yes, you see the allegations are relevant whereas his mh isn't. Obviously.

Oh I think there'll be plenty of legal folk kicking about aka as 'staff' who could have read a speech rather than the poor wife having to do so.

Why do some women humiliate themselves like this.

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 13:59

Nobody read the speech. It was a written statement.

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 14:00

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 13:59

Nobody read the speech. It was a written statement.

Read it, wrote it. Whatever.

Inkanta · 14/07/2023 14:08

I think the illness talk is a deflection. To get people off his back, slow things down and maybe a ploy for sympathy. As it turns out he's got more sympathy than Phillip Schofield.
The facts of the matter still need to be addressed by him or his wife. Did he do wrong. Yes or no. He might not be a criminal - and no workplace wants a criminal, but is he an upstanding BBC anchorman. Did be do what he's alleged to have done.

ThreeRingCircus · 14/07/2023 14:31

What more could his wife have said? It was a holding statement to say that:

  1. Huw was the presenter behind the allegations....to stop suspicion falling on other male presenters.
  1. That he is receiving in-patient hospital care....to explain why she was making the statement rather than Huw.
  1. That Huw intends to respond to the allegations when he's able to.... because she clearly doesn't have the answers, that's for Huw to answer.

I thought her statement was clear and dignified. She must be going through absolute hell.

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 14:33

ThreeRingCircus · 14/07/2023 14:31

What more could his wife have said? It was a holding statement to say that:

  1. Huw was the presenter behind the allegations....to stop suspicion falling on other male presenters.
  1. That he is receiving in-patient hospital care....to explain why she was making the statement rather than Huw.
  1. That Huw intends to respond to the allegations when he's able to.... because she clearly doesn't have the answers, that's for Huw to answer.

I thought her statement was clear and dignified. She must be going through absolute hell.

His legal team could have said he wasn't available for comment but refuted any allegation of wrong doing, would of course cooperate with the BBC inquiry and looked forward to clearing his name.

None of that though. None.

Inkanta · 14/07/2023 14:37

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 14:33

His legal team could have said he wasn't available for comment but refuted any allegation of wrong doing, would of course cooperate with the BBC inquiry and looked forward to clearing his name.

None of that though. None.

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Yes. Intend to challenge these claims vigorously.

babbscrabbs · 14/07/2023 14:41

shroomslover · 13/07/2023 11:51

I agree that both Philip and Huw's behaviour has definitely been questionable and unwise given their positions, but I agree with Thirty5 about the homophobic element. Liam Payne was 14 when he was mentored by Cheryl Cole, some 10 years his senior, on an ITV programme. They went on to have a baby. Could she now be accused of grooming Liam from an early age in the hope of a future relationship.?

Pretty sure Liam was 16 when he was on x factor with One Direction - before that he didn't have much to do with her at all

Also they got together when he was 22

Still maybe slightly creepy but a 10 year age gap feels more acceptable

babbscrabbs · 14/07/2023 14:41

babbscrabbs · 14/07/2023 14:41

Pretty sure Liam was 16 when he was on x factor with One Direction - before that he didn't have much to do with her at all

Also they got together when he was 22

Still maybe slightly creepy but a 10 year age gap feels more acceptable

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And when they got together there was much less of a power imbalance

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 14:48

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 14:33

His legal team could have said he wasn't available for comment but refuted any allegation of wrong doing, would of course cooperate with the BBC inquiry and looked forward to clearing his name.

None of that though. None.

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So essentially you think you know better than the top flight firm of lawyers advising Edwards and his family. Looks as if you missed your vocation - and with no training, experience or knowledge of the law.

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 14:51

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 14:48

So essentially you think you know better than the top flight firm of lawyers advising Edwards and his family. Looks as if you missed your vocation - and with no training, experience or knowledge of the law.

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Yes I do.

The first thing to do when being accused of wrong doing is deny it, if it is infact untrue.

To waffle on about health and hospitals would seem a most definite and desperate ploy to garner sympathy and detract from the actual allegations.

StefanosHill · 14/07/2023 14:58

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 14:51

Yes I do.

The first thing to do when being accused of wrong doing is deny it, if it is infact untrue.

To waffle on about health and hospitals would seem a most definite and desperate ploy to garner sympathy and detract from the actual allegations.

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You’re right maybe it can’t be denied

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