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How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

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user6482952 · 13/07/2023 08:57

Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

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Mrsjayy · 14/07/2023 08:04

the80sweregreat · 14/07/2023 08:03

Dan's been found out apparently and off air
It's a seedy old world

It really is. .

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 08:27

Mrsjayy · 14/07/2023 07:57

Oh I've just googled this ,well Naughty Dan . As I said DW is a slug.

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He certainly is. And a hypocrite to boot, he’s had to delete all his sanctimonious tweets about the BBC presenter.

Wheresthebeach · 14/07/2023 08:53

ThreeRingCircus · 14/07/2023 08:04

I think both PS and HE have behaved disgustingly and deserve to lose their jobs.

However, I do see a difference between them.

PS met the young man when he was 15, got him a job at ITV, started a sexual relationship (apparently once legal age) and then had him moved on when the relationship went south. It's classic grooming/power imbalance at work. Add into that PS's brother and that he knew about him having contact with children and didn't go to the police AND that there were rumours he was absolutely toxic at work then he comes off very badly.

HE also comes off badly, it's totally grim for a married middle aged man to be sexting/messaging young people but they were people online open to being contacted. He didn't try to get them a job or have their careers ruined when he was done with them. What he's done is dreadful, I don't want to see him back in his job but I do think it's slightly different from PS.

I think that sums it up nicely. But both are getting sympathy for their mental health issues which drives me nuts. They have issues because of the way they have behaved and treated people. Living that sort of double life comes with a cost - too many people seem more concerned with the men's mental health, than with the damage they are doing to young people. Its more of the 'anything goes to accommodate men's sexual desires, and the people they use are fodder'.

Mrsjayy · 14/07/2023 08:54

I've seen clips of Martin oh I mean Dan practically salivating on GB news about what he knew about phillip schofield! Hypocrite indeed.

Inkanta · 14/07/2023 09:02

Wheresthebeach · 14/07/2023 08:53

I think that sums it up nicely. But both are getting sympathy for their mental health issues which drives me nuts. They have issues because of the way they have behaved and treated people. Living that sort of double life comes with a cost - too many people seem more concerned with the men's mental health, than with the damage they are doing to young people. Its more of the 'anything goes to accommodate men's sexual desires, and the people they use are fodder'.

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Yes. It's a twisted logic. It's a case of cause and effect. Living an unethical self serving life and mistreating people - there's consequences. The consequences might take a toll on you snd thats the price you pay. But you're still responsible for your choices. You cant escape the responsibilty is yours.

Wheresthebeach · 14/07/2023 09:05

And that HE is reportedly angry about the coverage, not mortified, embarrassed, or ashamed, tells us everything we need to know.

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 09:07

They have issues because of the way they have behaved and treated people.

That’s pure conjecture. Edwards has had mental health issues for 20 years which began with the death of his father. Unless you’re a psychologist directly involved in the care and treatment of these men - in which case your discussing it on a public forum is highly unethical - you have no clue about the root of their issues.

StefanosHill · 14/07/2023 09:07

Wheresthebeach · 14/07/2023 08:53

I think that sums it up nicely. But both are getting sympathy for their mental health issues which drives me nuts. They have issues because of the way they have behaved and treated people. Living that sort of double life comes with a cost - too many people seem more concerned with the men's mental health, than with the damage they are doing to young people. Its more of the 'anything goes to accommodate men's sexual desires, and the people they use are fodder'.

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So true

Juanmartinez · 14/07/2023 09:21

How do we know HE mental health issues started when his father died ?

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 09:30

He’s said so several times in interviews before this furore blew up.

Inkanta · 14/07/2023 09:30

Huw's issues could be because he got found out and exposed. One of Huw's friends spoke about him being in good spirits last week when he had lunch with him. This was before Huw was informed of the allegations..

Mrsjayy · 14/07/2023 09:34

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 09:30

He’s said so several times in interviews before this furore blew up.

You know people grieve and miss people without being creeps and going behind their spouses back. Excusing behaviour because they have MH issues is counterproductive imo.

Juanmartinez · 14/07/2023 09:36

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 09:30

He’s said so several times in interviews before this furore blew up.

That's what he said, we don't know it to be true though, like you said upthread, we don't have access to his records and only the people treating him know but they can only go on what he's told them 🤷‍♀️

the80sweregreat · 14/07/2023 09:44

I think most people would be suffering with something after being found out to be fair , whatever your views on it or him or the situation he created.
He has to face his family and friends , for me that would be worse as they must have seen the comments on line. Plus the ' fine upstanding ' professional is being blown apart.
I bet a few people will ghost them all or distance themselves at least.
I hope his wife and children has a support network around them though. They get my sympathy.
If it had been more of an old fashioned type affair maybe that might have been seen as less seedy , but this is different and has more layers to it.

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 09:47

Juanmartinez · 14/07/2023 09:36

That's what he said, we don't know it to be true though, like you said upthread, we don't have access to his records and only the people treating him know but they can only go on what he's told them 🤷‍♀️

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Why would he have been saying it for years if it wasn’t true?

Sunnydays41 · 14/07/2023 09:55

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 09:07

They have issues because of the way they have behaved and treated people.

That’s pure conjecture. Edwards has had mental health issues for 20 years which began with the death of his father. Unless you’re a psychologist directly involved in the care and treatment of these men - in which case your discussing it on a public forum is highly unethical - you have no clue about the root of their issues.

Well if the way he's behaved hasn't made him feel bad and contributed to his depression, then that makes him an even worse person with very dubious morals!

Sunnydays41 · 14/07/2023 09:59

Wheresthebeach · 14/07/2023 08:53

I think that sums it up nicely. But both are getting sympathy for their mental health issues which drives me nuts. They have issues because of the way they have behaved and treated people. Living that sort of double life comes with a cost - too many people seem more concerned with the men's mental health, than with the damage they are doing to young people. Its more of the 'anything goes to accommodate men's sexual desires, and the people they use are fodder'.

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Yes, this.

Juanmartinez · 14/07/2023 10:26

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 09:47

Why would he have been saying it for years if it wasn’t true?

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I'm just saying that we don't know for sure what has caused his depression, just because he's been saying something for years doesn't mean it's true. It could be a combination of the death of his father and the fact he was struggling with his sexuality or it could be just the sexuality thing. But we don't and can't say we 100% know what the cause is.
I'm pretty sure though, that all this stuff coming out now would have a detrimental impact on anyone's mental health even without a previous history of depression.

Bringonthepitchforks · 14/07/2023 10:30

All that is in the public domain about his MH is it's serious now and he's been here (as in hospitalised) for it before. It's safe to say he isn't a stranger to severe mental health issues, you wouldn't go digging around someone's private life trying to find out the cause of their cancer would you?

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2023 10:31

Juanmartinez · 14/07/2023 10:26

I'm just saying that we don't know for sure what has caused his depression, just because he's been saying something for years doesn't mean it's true. It could be a combination of the death of his father and the fact he was struggling with his sexuality or it could be just the sexuality thing. But we don't and can't say we 100% know what the cause is.
I'm pretty sure though, that all this stuff coming out now would have a detrimental impact on anyone's mental health even without a previous history of depression.

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And on that we’re in complete agreement. Most people would be in total meltdown at this point, whether they were innocent or guilty.

Inkanta · 14/07/2023 11:08

I don't think this mental health has anything to do with the facts of the matter. Either he did something wrong or he didn't and his wife's statement didn't address it. Does he admit it or deny it. Mental health is irrelevant to these facts.

the80sweregreat · 14/07/2023 11:09

The wife's statement was very vague.
Probably told by the lawyers what to write

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 11:28

Inkanta · 14/07/2023 11:08

I don't think this mental health has anything to do with the facts of the matter. Either he did something wrong or he didn't and his wife's statement didn't address it. Does he admit it or deny it. Mental health is irrelevant to these facts.

Exactly and it all sounded like an excuse plus why say he'd been 'hospitalised'/admitted to a private clinic if not to attempt to get a bit of sympathy which many seem to have lapped up.

Bet Prince Andrew is kicking himself, if only he'd said it was his mental health problems that did it. Nothing to do with being a rich VIP privileged man doing exactly as he pleased oh noooo.

JulieHoney · 14/07/2023 12:22

Rhondaa · 14/07/2023 11:28

Exactly and it all sounded like an excuse plus why say he'd been 'hospitalised'/admitted to a private clinic if not to attempt to get a bit of sympathy which many seem to have lapped up.

Bet Prince Andrew is kicking himself, if only he'd said it was his mental health problems that did it. Nothing to do with being a rich VIP privileged man doing exactly as he pleased oh noooo.

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Absolute bullshit.

Huw Edwards has been refreshingly open about his significant mental health issues for decades, has co-presented a programme on the topic and about needing in-patient care in the past.

He’s not popped to the Priory claiming a sex-addiction and MH issues like some sleazy blokes in the public eye, he is in hospital.

I think he’s behaved atrociously to Vicky Flind (a very talented and highly respected television producer) and his children.

However, let’s not pretend his mental health crisis is sympathy-seeking waffle to deflect from his actions. Ms Flind’s statement was dignified and succinct.

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