How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

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Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

Yea that’s a fair point tbh.

The suggestion by a PP that Huw Edwards "wouldn't have been allowed to present the news" in Wales in the 80s if he was gay is utterly bonkers! Particularly since there was a gay man on the news at that time, not that it was anybody's business. Of course there were reasons why it may be difficult to be out and there was homophohia as in the rest of the UK, but it wasn't the dark ages for goodness sake.

@Riverlee , it doesn't in the same way, because people leave it later to start a family now.

Interesting tonight on Newsagents podcast that David Yelland, former editor of The Sun, said that one of his first stories in that job was titled “why should we get rid of the BBC” and he said he wrote it purely to curry favour with Rupert Murdoch back in NY and he didn’t even believe in what he was writing!

I admittedly didn’t know there was a gay newsreader on Welsh tv in the 80s so I take your point about that, but I still think that HE would have found it much harder to get promoted to be the key newsreader on the Beeb, providing commentary on state occasions, had he been openly gay at the start of his career.

You may recall that there was a huge fuss over Ellen being the first out gay presenter of a chat show in 1997 and that was in the states so I doubt it was any easier over here.

And remember Section 28 legislation in 1988? Not utterly bonkers to suggest that prejudice against homosexuality existed then!

^^ sorry posted to wrong thread!

Very interesting though. Thanks for the mispost.

It's the oldest get-out clause "I was ill, stressed, depressed". It may not be illegal but it is very questionable at the very least. I wonder if he was depressed because he was handing over 35,000

He has a history of depression going back 20 years so it seems unlikely.

PS is in a different league for grooming a young lad, getting him a job in his place of work and having the young man moved into a different role when the relationship ended.

This was possibly illegal and certainly a serious HR issue.

HE behaved appallingly towards his family. As someone in his 60s, he’s just gross in engaging in consensual sexual activities with people 40 years younger.

My guess is he probably did meet up not just pictures. You would not pay all that money over for just pictures but no evidence as yet so speculation

Huw Edwards didn't care about this young person's mental health when he was sending them sick requests for pictures, but as soon as he's found out (last week) his own mental health crashes. I think it's what you call self pity mental health breakdown

typical narcissist. Angry he’s been discovered, blames the press and makes himself look like a victim ..

typical narcissist. Angry he’s been discovered, blames the press and makes himself look like a victim

Yes I think so - uses the DARVO narcissistic tactic.

I suspect the money had an element of extortion behind it, which would be why he got so angry

If the rumours are true (and they have yet to be proven), then a work investigation might be necessary because there's a possibility that he used a work mobile phone or laptop to make contact with the young person at the centre of the story. The police have said that no criminal offence has been committed so we'll assume the young person was over 18 when the contact took place. However, a lot of companies have policies around the use of work devices and internet usage. Is contacting young people on a website like OF and purchasing or exchanging naked photos an appropriate use of a work resource? Also, did the contact take place during work time? We've all seen how the boundaries between work and home have become blurred with the rise in working from home. Journalists were probably doing a lot of home working even before Covid.

There may also be a clause in his contract about not doing anything to bring the organisation into disrepute. Does this constitute a breach of contract?

There are a lot of questions and I don't have any answers. However, I'd imagine these questions (and probably many more) are exercising the minds of the staff in BBC's HR and legal departments atm.

@Festoonedflurryfairy I think your view of Wales and the Welsh media in the 80s is very inaccurate. In any case the impact it might have on his career was probably way down the list. If he was indeed always gay, I think internalised homophobia would be more likely to be a significant factor given his faith and family background. It's funny because I know from talking to friends that I wasn't the only one who thought his makeover a few years ago when he lost 3 stone, had a spray tan and took up boxing was reminiscent of men who suddenly come out in middle age. They often leave their wives and children to focus on partying or 'self-improvement' at the gym. Making up for lost time, which their exes and families usually don't have the luxury of being able to do.

How do you know his wife is sticking up for him? She has issued a public statement but it's entirely possible that she has also approached a solicitor with a view to ending her marriage. The two things aren't mutually exclusive. Some women do stay with their husbands after an affair but the allegations (and they are only allegations at present) here are of a very different nature. It's entirely possible that his wife is still trying to figure out exactly what did happen. He may be unable (or unwilling) to tell her the full story. She'll also be very mindful of the impact of this on her children. They may be adults but they are still her children and it's her job to protect them and to soften the blow as best she can. I feel desperately sorry for his wife and children - finding themselves at the centre of a media storm through no fault of their own. I hope they have good support from their family and friends.

Whatever you do don't go over to Twitter and search for Dan Wootton who is trending and ask why he has deleted all his HE tweets and has gone silent. Don't do that.

What has Dan done ?

I think the fact that he paid the young man he met up with during lockdown £200 for making him a cup of tea, promising to stay longer next time, suggests that he was voluntarily showering the boys with money as a way of buying their 'friendship' and silence. It's a bizarre thing to do. Even without the sexual element HE must have been aware that this was morally dubious, sugar daddy behaviour.

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Funny enough I think the reverse. Never watched PS but HE was on tv for all the important stuff

Carol Vorderman
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Dan Wootton is trending Dan Wootton has deleted all reference to Huw Edwards from his profile Dan Wootton hasn't been seen for days apparently Dan Wootton, where is he@GBNEWS
? Have I said Dan Wootton enough? I'm new to this sort of thing.

Popbitch has published seeming damming information about the great Meghan hater Dan. What goes around comes around. Loathsome creature hope this is the end of him if true.

Dan... apparently nothing, was all his mate Martin Branning

Dan just allegedly hid Martins blackmailing sex tapes for him of colleagues recorded in secret. Martin did the recording allegedly

I bow to your greater knowledge about homophobia in Welsh broadcasting EnfysPreseli but where does internalised homophobia come from? Or what is it in response to? It doesn’t come about in a vacuum!