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How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

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user6482952 · 13/07/2023 08:57

Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

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Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:25

TommyNever · 13/07/2023 16:18

Hmm, you agree with me that middle-aged men engaging in such behaviour is "pathetic" but also say that's "a sad way to look at life".

Old people still pretending they're highly hormonal sexy young things is indeed sad, whether they're preying on youngsters or chasing other self-deluding oldies.

Wtf? When you say middle aged how old do you mean? Because late 30s is technically middle aged.

Middle aged guy chasing after teenagers and harassing people he works with = pathetic (and sinister)
Middle aged guy engaging in consensual sexual relationships with men or women roughly his own age or with an appropriate age gap, ie where one of them wasn’t at school a couple of years ago = totally normal and not at all pathetic

Maybe you’d be happier if you stopped judging everyone on looks?

IveShaggedSomeMingers · 13/07/2023 16:26

@Puncturedbicycle85 , middle age is not late 30s, it's 45-65.

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:31

IveShaggedSomeMingers · 13/07/2023 16:26

@Puncturedbicycle85 , middle age is not late 30s, it's 45-65.

Hmmm, it depends who you ask doesn’t it (not that it makes a huge difference anyway). But I wouldn’t describe someone in their late 30s or early 40s as a “young person” really. And if we are being technical and basing it on the average human life span of around 80 years, then late 30s is most definitely in the middle part of that (and 60 is not). In any event, whether the pp thinks that people should give up sex at 38 or 45, it’s still a weird attitude.

TommyNever · 13/07/2023 16:32

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:25

Wtf? When you say middle aged how old do you mean? Because late 30s is technically middle aged.

Middle aged guy chasing after teenagers and harassing people he works with = pathetic (and sinister)
Middle aged guy engaging in consensual sexual relationships with men or women roughly his own age or with an appropriate age gap, ie where one of them wasn’t at school a couple of years ago = totally normal and not at all pathetic

Maybe you’d be happier if you stopped judging everyone on looks?

I can assure you I'm perfectly happy.😀

I have indeed "been there, done that" more times than I can remember, across several relationships from my late teens to forties, and that was more than sufficient for one lifetime.

It's probably harder for women than men to admit that their sexually desirable days are over, but men experience a fairly steep drop in their need for such behaviour anyway once well into middle age.

The idea of going out looking for sexual encounters at my age would strike me not only as pathetic, but far too much like hard work... 😅

Rhondaa · 13/07/2023 16:32

'I dont think he should be penalised by the criminal law but he holds a position funded by tax payers and trades on a wholesome respectable image'

Yes no-one is suggesting he needs to be sent to prison <obviously> rather stop the lynch mob/public flogging accusations and recognise that if true what he has been doing for possibly years is very wrong and he rightly should be ashamed, resign and disappear to lick his wounds.

Let's hope other people allegedly behaving as recklessly might think twice. I doubt it though, entitled men think they can do as they please.

Pp said 'his life as he knew if is over', look he's been earning a fortune for years I think that will cushion the blow he's inflicted all by himself.

Rhondaa · 13/07/2023 16:35

'It's probably harder for women than men to admit that their sexually desirable days are over, but men experience a fairly steep drop in their need for such behaviour anyway once well into middle age.'

Except it would seem high profile telly presenters.

I'm very desirable thanks very much 🤗

Wiccan · 13/07/2023 16:36

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:25

Wtf? When you say middle aged how old do you mean? Because late 30s is technically middle aged.

Middle aged guy chasing after teenagers and harassing people he works with = pathetic (and sinister)
Middle aged guy engaging in consensual sexual relationships with men or women roughly his own age or with an appropriate age gap, ie where one of them wasn’t at school a couple of years ago = totally normal and not at all pathetic

Maybe you’d be happier if you stopped judging everyone on looks?

What ? . 30s is middle age ? Jesus Christ I'm not going to bother even getting out of bed in the morning life's over 😲 . Jesus do some research . 45 onwards !

Tahitiansummer · 13/07/2023 16:37

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:31

Hmmm, it depends who you ask doesn’t it (not that it makes a huge difference anyway). But I wouldn’t describe someone in their late 30s or early 40s as a “young person” really. And if we are being technical and basing it on the average human life span of around 80 years, then late 30s is most definitely in the middle part of that (and 60 is not). In any event, whether the pp thinks that people should give up sex at 38 or 45, it’s still a weird attitude.

I also perceive late thirties to be middle aged.

MrsColinRobinson · 13/07/2023 16:38

Abouttimemum · 13/07/2023 09:07

This entirely

This and both are quite happy to use their wives as beards without shame or consideration for them.

I find it shocking that even here on MN where bs is usually loudly called out, HE gets sympathy and his alleged MH is used as a defense. That's disgusting.

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:38

TommyNever · 13/07/2023 16:32

I can assure you I'm perfectly happy.😀

I have indeed "been there, done that" more times than I can remember, across several relationships from my late teens to forties, and that was more than sufficient for one lifetime.

It's probably harder for women than men to admit that their sexually desirable days are over, but men experience a fairly steep drop in their need for such behaviour anyway once well into middle age.

The idea of going out looking for sexual encounters at my age would strike me not only as pathetic, but far too much like hard work... 😅

Have you heard of this thing called relationships? I’ve personally never gone out looking for “sexual encounters” but I’d never dream of judging someone in their 50s as pathetic for wanting a loving relationship with someone age appropriate. I would judge someone who paid teens for naked pics or groomed school kids though.

Hope enforces celibacy works out for you. Maybe when you’re 80 you will realise how ridiculous it was.

IveShaggedSomeMingers · 13/07/2023 16:39

@Puncturedbicycle85 , well yes, I suppose. If I asked a 5-yr old they'd probably say 25.

Middle age - Wikipedia

Middle age - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_age

Missingmyusername · 13/07/2023 16:39

They aren’t. Both used their position and probably money to satisfy their desires.

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2023 16:39

Let's hope other people allegedly behaving as recklessly might think twice. I doubt it though, entitled men think they can do as they please

If we toughened up the law we wouldn’t need to hope.

TommyNever · 13/07/2023 16:40

>Except it would seem high profile telly presenters.

They're possibly stuffing themselves with Viagra and other dubious substances, but why they bother, I have no idea.

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:42

Wiccan · 13/07/2023 16:36

What ? . 30s is middle age ? Jesus Christ I'm not going to bother even getting out of bed in the morning life's over 😲 . Jesus do some research . 45 onwards !

What’s wrong with being in the middle part of life? Why would you not want to get out of bed? If we assume that a person lives for 80 years and 18 years are childhood, that’s 62 years left and if that’s divided roughly into 3 parts, that’s approximately 20 years. So middle age would start around 38 or so and finish in late 50s. There also seems to be a difference between cultural middle age (which yeah might be 45-65) and actual middle age. But at 65, you are not in the middle of your life or anywhere close to that.

TommyNever · 13/07/2023 16:45

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:38

Have you heard of this thing called relationships? I’ve personally never gone out looking for “sexual encounters” but I’d never dream of judging someone in their 50s as pathetic for wanting a loving relationship with someone age appropriate. I would judge someone who paid teens for naked pics or groomed school kids though.

Hope enforces celibacy works out for you. Maybe when you’re 80 you will realise how ridiculous it was.

Huh? Relationships are fine. Mature people tend to realise that they needn't include sex, especially undignified and half-hearted sex done for the sake of conforming to some unrealistically "youthful" stereotype.

Nothing "enforced" about my celibacy, I choose it quite freely. And I have plenty of long-term loving friends (most of whom are also celibate these days), so thanks for asking. 😊

Wiccan · 13/07/2023 16:45

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:42

What’s wrong with being in the middle part of life? Why would you not want to get out of bed? If we assume that a person lives for 80 years and 18 years are childhood, that’s 62 years left and if that’s divided roughly into 3 parts, that’s approximately 20 years. So middle age would start around 38 or so and finish in late 50s. There also seems to be a difference between cultural middle age (which yeah might be 45-65) and actual middle age. But at 65, you are not in the middle of your life or anywhere close to that.

Umm I think you'll find I was joking !

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:48

https://www.nicswell.co.uk/health-news/middle-age-starts-at-60-claims-media

Or according to this one, you can get out of bed in the morning for a good couple of decades more 😂. And I suspect the parameters will be shifted even further now that millennials are hitting middle age and won’t accept it (I’m one myself and class myself as middle aged, as does my 37 yo sister). There is nothing wrong with middle age and the suggestion that there is causes a lot of harm.

soz for the detail.

Middle age 'starts at 60' claims media | NICS Well

"Middle age begins at 60, say researchers," The Times reports. A new population modelling study estimates that due to increased lifespan, what was once regar...

https://www.nicswell.co.uk/health-news/middle-age-starts-at-60-claims-media

IveShaggedSomeMingers · 13/07/2023 16:49

@Puncturedbicycle85 , middle-age isn't 'half way through your life'.

Wiccan · 13/07/2023 16:59

Puncturedbicycle85 · 13/07/2023 16:48

https://www.nicswell.co.uk/health-news/middle-age-starts-at-60-claims-media

Or according to this one, you can get out of bed in the morning for a good couple of decades more 😂. And I suspect the parameters will be shifted even further now that millennials are hitting middle age and won’t accept it (I’m one myself and class myself as middle aged, as does my 37 yo sister). There is nothing wrong with middle age and the suggestion that there is causes a lot of harm.

soz for the detail.

If I were a millennial I would be feeling rather optimistic right now .

Mrsjayy · 13/07/2023 17:01

Tahitiansummer · 13/07/2023 16:37

I also perceive late thirties to be middle aged.

It really isn't honestly it's not !

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 13/07/2023 17:06

DoYouRememberTheInnMiranda · 13/07/2023 08:59

I agree.

Do we know it's definitely younger men with HE? Some people have assumed the young person with HE is female - which is making me wonder if PS's accusations of homophobia being involved with his case (which I previously thought was rubbish) might be correct.

It does feel to me that people are reacting differently to this one, more anxious to forgive, and I'm not sure why.

I don't think homophobia was the issue with schofield. A lot of people in the industry really don’t like him and relished the opportunity to shoved the boot in.

Dumbonellyfant · 13/07/2023 17:18

I don't think so far they're any different in terms of disgracing themselves with inappropriate potentially exploitative behaviour

But I think the reaction is slightly different- although both were pretty beloved tv personalities- one works on a publicly funded network that bought the most serious news to the nation (often first on air) and had an "upstanding citizen, salt of the nation" type image and the other, people didn't pay a license fee for or expect to bring us serious news but light entertainment and giggles about chefs calling their grandmothers bikes etc

I think people feel more betrayed when it's the face of a lot of our "most important news events in history"

Plus he gave us the news and then became it - we quite preferred him bringing the news over being it I think. I think we had begun falling out of love with PS before his downfall whereas HE just stunned folk

nobodysdaughternow · 13/07/2023 17:35

I am not arguing the toss between two powerful, well-paid men who behaved like sexual scum bags.

I am sick of them all. Rolf Harris, Saville and the many others.

What I want to know is how they get away with it for so long?

Riverlee · 13/07/2023 18:59

i know it’s not the main part of the thread, but I’m in my fifties and don’t feel middle aged. I don’t really think ‘middle age’ exists as a concept nowadays.

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