TV presenter allegations

[JeandeServiette]

Could we PLEASE have a thread that stays up?

Meaning don't name anyone, or any programme or ask for initials or hint.

I just would like to discuss how this is likely to unfold.

The bbc wording of all their statements is important to read very carefully, it’s been very carefully crafted and legally checked, and as broad as the words are, they give huge clues.

@Sunnyfunnytimes Such as? Can you give an example, please?

Of course they can’t 😂

Somewhere on MN there is a post from me about the Coronation, saying I was turning over to ITV because A Certain Person kept talking over the church music and the choirs! (Near the start.)

Yeah and we are talking about a group that's more likely to get into sex work and illegal drug use - very possible.

Posters do realise that even using innuendo or trying to be clever in naming these person is still grounds for liable if they are wrong?

Why isn't BBC presenter being named by the media? www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66148321

Be careful....

No..!! Please don't let it be him. 😵‍💫

As before, the BBC is lagging behind. It should have passed the parent's complaint to the police immediately in May when it was made. The police could then have interviewed the young person, parent and accused and taken it from there.

BBC should not be stepping into a role of the protector of its adult employees.

Because they think they are being subtle when they are not.

What was the parents complaint in May, have you seen it?

Did the young person make a complaint?

What evidence was supplied?

you could be sued for defamation

Oh god yes, I hadn't even thought of that

i guessed immediately i saw the news on friday night!
sophie Raworth must have sent a subliminal message

What if the BBC spoke to the person involved (now an adult) and they either denied it had happened before they were 18 or absolutely insisted that they did now want any police involvement ? Do they not have any right to determine whether they are dragged into this? Would the BBC not be obliged to listen to them and consider their desire to keep this private?

I don’t think the issues here are anywhere near as clear cut as some people are making out.

i agree Nesbi.
i am not sure their mother has so many rights as she thinks

I believe that it can still be prosecuted if they have evidence of the perpetrator receiving indecent images of a minor, regardless of whether the minor provides consent.

I don't think the minor (at the time) can just say, not it's ok, don't prosecute. There is a duty of care.

Happy to be corrected though.

I feel that age of consent should be raised to 18, not 16.
Social media usage ideally 18, but at least 16 ( the owners of BigTech won't let their own kids on the stuff)
Drinking at 18, driving at 18 and military at 18. I don't know why we have different thresholds and arbitrary ages and it's all very archaic and leaves many areas grey and difficult to navigate.

You're either an adult or you're not.

Look at this mess- it's so ridiculous.

So a man can legally have sex with someone who is 16, but cannot have a topless photo of them when/if they are 17?

The actions of the presenter are gross and abhorrent, I'm pointing out how stupid our laws are and it needs a revamp.

I'd heard the victim described as a ''Youth'', so assumed a male- but someone on YT in the media said it's definitely a girl.
But if saving for a operation, it seems puzzling to blow the £35k on horribly addictive crack cocaine.

I think the point is they are not a minor now, and their parents didn’t report it to the police either.

If I were an adult, and this had happened when I was 17 and I didn’t want anything to do with it, didn’t want my name potentially exposed, didn’t want journalists digging through all the dirt of my life, didn’t want this living on the internet forever more and becoming the defining thing people know about me…if I explained all that and then an organisation like the BBC just shrugged, denied me my agency and reported it to the police I think I would feel violated and abused by them let alone by whoever the individual is.

I’m not saying that is what happened, but I strongly suspect that this is a lot more complex than people are allowing for.

I wouldn't put much store in what they say.

Well that would require an open police investigation to enable the police to arrest the suspect, place them on bail and as part of the conditions require their phone/devices for checking

But how do you get that bit off the ground if the young person says 'no I dont want to speak to police, I dont want to file a victim statement, I dont want to take this further and am not complying'

Wheres the evidence then for your arrest?

Of course,

not scheduled to be on air in the near future
couldnt contact th4 complainant to confirm that’s why no action
New allegations of a different nature on Thursday
He is not currently on air
in touch with external authorities Ie met
comfirm it’s a male presenter
expect to be able to give further info in coming days

there are loads, I can’t be bothered to go through them all again but read them carefully ,

I'm honestly believing these allegations less and less.
I guess I lose my £1 because I have heard the name before, but I couldn't have told you what their regular schtick was, what they presented ever.

They are an especially weird accusee for several reasons, their public persona is such a poor match.

I imagine that BBC gets told all sorts of completely false things their staff are alleged to have done fairly frequently. So question is if BBC acted in line with policy to handle such accusations fairly.

I agree.

The young person will be more than aware that their own devices and history will be checked too.

Perhaps also in order to supplement their habit, they were dealing/recruiting as well. Its very common. They wont want police all over them either.