Beyond Titan - physics and the deep sea

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Continuing our crash course in all things deep-sea.

I mean, I think the sound was suggestive of implosion at the time all comms were lost, but the debris of the Titan confirmed it.

In the comments on that video- aboit Stockton Rush:
"Charisma sums it up so well, but he also just naturally LOOKED the part. That perfect, thick, iron-grey hair, the lines in his face, the absolute sense of certainty. He was the stereotypical WASP. It's unreal. He was a prototypical corporate leader. He was the image that I envision when I think of an Airline captain, a doctor, a lawyer. He just embodied competence and trust. "

I thought that. He looked like POTUS in a Hollywood blockbuster or something. I did think at the time hmm wonder if people would have parted with €250k to go with him in that thing if he was really young, or not white, or a woman, or had a high voice or a hick accent, or had long hair and tattoos and was a bit ugly or chubby.

Totally! Charisma, charm and cockiness. Rather like Boris Johnson (only much more fuckable, sorry, fanciable), who millions of bewitched Brits voted for.

@MavisMcMinty that does make sense. It did feel like there was a lot going on in the background that the world wasn't privy to.

And lol @ the Boris comment!

I understand why people liked/were amused by Johnson, but not why they thought he was in any way fit to run the country, when they wouldn’t have trusted him to feed their cat.

Stockton Rush looked like a mashup of Father Ted and Ted Beneke from Breaking Bad.

Yes! Father Ted! How Ted could have been if only he’d got that great gig in California.

I realise the discussion has moved on overnight but I just wanted to answer this.

Yes pigs are very like humans, pigs heart valves can be used to replace human valves and have been for decades.

HE DID!!

(Explains much . . . )

I really hope that the whole thing was as quick as we have all been led to believe. I can't bear to this about it otherwise.

The footage yesterday appearing to show that vessel has been recovered in pieces would also be highly suggestive of a sudden destructive event.

Haven't read the whole thread but reading a lot on reddit about the incident.
Someone posted this to illustrate how deep the ocean is and the wealth of creatures that live at terrifying depths. Who knew that a species of sharks can dive to 4500 metres....
https://neal.fun/deep-sea/?fbclid=IwAR2T6mmAIGNJB1B-xxaeyb10QXj9ZVycQAjX7AQGN4sOUllJawjvOpU5xxs

I've just started watching this

He is talking about what is inside the pressurized parts and what isn't.

Wow! That’s fantastic. Really enjoyed that. I had no idea some mammals could go so deep.

Thanks @sashh - very clear and helpful video.

Nothing made a sound or warned them - at that pressure difference it was instant in less than a millisecond. No warning, no last breaths or thought just gone

and food source is very limited at that death so I’d imagine animals will have unfortunately taken anything they can from an wreckage

The Titan did have a warning system that listened for evidence of the structure starting to fail, supposedly giving them time to return to the surface. It’s quite possible this warning system alerted the crew to some sort of problem, a few seconds or minutes before the catastrophic event.

Hopefully it made a recording and is still intact.

This video is amazing at both 16:30 and 21:17 onwards. Its the video that @cakeorwine posted above to show the cover that has been retrieved.

At 16:30 you can see how rough the sea is and the basic safety point about 5 people inside that Titan surfacing in rough sea with no safety restraint -whatever the weather predictions stuff can change over a period of hours. If it looks like that in the ship, if you surfaced in that - there'd be blood and heads clanking on metal and bone.

The 21:17 onwards you see them being bolted in. It feels so claustrophobic just watching it and how squashed in they are. The whole macho bon-amie buddy-buddy banter makes my flesh crawl. Imagine being stuck with that for 4 hours or so.

The bloke presenting this video is an utter wanker I think. Two classic moments is he gets a bucket of water out of the sea above the wreck to make "souvenirs" and then says he is "super excited" to throw a wreath into the sea in memory of the people who died. FFS. The crawling sycophancy he displays towards Stockton Rush is also pretty vile - keeps calling him "the owner" and is almost tugging his forelock. He was lucky that he didn't dive because I expect he'd be dead. It's fairly chilling.

I started watching but found him so smug and downright creepy that I fast-forwarded through most of it

I started watching but found him so smug and downright creepy that I fast-forwarded through most of it

Yes me too. I just went to the bits about the dive.

Amazingly google tells me that absolute arse is YouTube influencer person with millions of followers. How or why god knows. I get that millions of people would watch that video because of what happened to the Titan - but he is just so painful to watch. the parts where he is banging on about his gf and follow her channels too. it's so yuck the way he claims to be trying to be respectful and then is like "here is probably PH's last ever signature."

The main thing I got from that video is when they get bolted in there is no way on earth I could do that voluntarily. I mean maybe if you were on a sinking ship and it was life or death but for tourism - no way. and those awful men with their awful macho "bants".

I watched that video last week. I swore at the screen when they were getting ready to throw the wreath in which they thought was being oh so respectful, when actually it probably just strangled a seal.

It really bothered me in the last part of the video that showed him in the Titan how he had his feet and hence weight pressed up on the nose of the vessel. That titanium section was glued onto the rest, and I keep wondering if the gormless tourist who was on it for a brief period the week before contributed to whatever happened that broke the Titan apart.

I've watched a documentary about the Edmund Fitzgerald yesterday due to my unearthed interest in maritime accidents. They've always fascinated me.

I want to say it'd have been strong enough to withstand someone's feet pressing on it @milkyaqua but we definitely don't know that here, do we! It was so flimsy compared to how it should have been.