MISSING TITAN SUB - THREAD 5

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Thread 5 - a continuation.

My heart aches for those poor men and their families. 💔😔

@HundredMilesAnHour, I hadn’t even thought about those on the mother ship too. I can’t imagine how they’re feeling now.

Black humour is a recognised way to cope psychologically with things which are overwhelming - whether they are difficult, frightening, or just too horrible to contemplate, black (aka gallows or graveyard) humour helps people deal with it. Laughing at something we fear takes the terror and distress out of it

Was used during WW1 and WW2 as a recognised morale booster and coping mechanism. If you've laughed at someone or something frightening you've brought it down to size.

I thought that post was smile worthy.

those on the mother ship too. I can’t imagine how they’re feeling now

“Imminently unemployed “ probably covers it

So ABC news (USA) is reporting that the implosion was actually heard on Sunday and reported to USCG. The timing was right with the loss of signal from the Titan. This seemed to be confirmed by Bob Ballard (discoverer of Titanic wreck and well respected explorer) on Good Morning American who apparently was with the people who 'heard' it. Not sure if they actually 'heard' or just saw a report of a noise via listening device. And not sure if they reported it immediately or if it was relayed after the incident became public.

At any rate, it appears that those searching knew it was highly likely that the submersible had imploded but (correctly) decided to keep that out of the media until it could be confirmed that it was Titan by locating the wreckage.

Not sure if this info has already been posted to this thread.

Heard lots of allusions to "conspiracy" this week... what could the conspiracy possibly be?!

A little off topic, but related and apologies if I am being daft. All of this has made me wonder how sea creatures are able to survive at such a great depth whereas humans and submarines experience catastrophic implosion. How are the sea creatures able to survive under such great pressure? Does anyone have an idea?

Yes. They've evolved to be able to cope physiologically. Of course if you bring them up to the surface they die. It's the air in our bodies that makes us vulnerable to pressure changes. The fish and other creatures that exist at those depths don't have air sacs - lungs, for example.

If you ever get bored it's worth a Google, I find it really fascinating! Generally speaking as PP has said its their make up that means they can withstand the pressures ie no air sacs.

That makes perfect sense. Thanks @Marteenie and @CrunchyCarrot.

Someone said to me today that they’d heard one of the men on board was about to be done for dodgy money dealings so might have wanted to fake his own death, and that no one saw the sub go into the water 🧐

(Not sure how that theory explains all the others also wanting to fake their own deaths, including a 19 year old 😬)

But see, the rule for some is, "The rich can only spend money on what I want them to spend money on".

It doesn't matter if they give millions to charity, they spent the money they earned on something for themselves. Oh, my, the cheek of them!

It's truly the definition of "irony" and also "hypocrisy".

They are basically saying, "I am here on the fifth thread about the Titan to read the posts, then post myself and castigate the other people reading and posting on the fifth thread about the Titan."🙄

Lions and tigers and bears...OH MY!

Sadly I didn't see the post, but I had a laugh at one@TokyoStories posted on an earlier thread, and it provided some very welcome light relief.

This is a truly horrible post to ask but I don’t really want to google it. I thought the pressure would make things implode and sort of go into themselves? Clearly I have no idea. What happened to the bodies?

An Aunt of the 19-yr-old has come forward to say he was scared to go on the trip. Perhaps he was, but knowing how people are, it may also be nothing more than a story the aunt is telling, as I am sure there will be lawsuits.

That's right - many of them simply balloon and rust.

The ones which fascinate me are those creatures such as whales and seals, and penguins Especially the smaller, apparently more vulnerable ones), which can dive to enormous depths (not Titanic though) and come back up to the surface with no problems.

What an evolutionary miracle that is!

This link was posted by a MNer on another thread a while ago, and I thought it was fascinating.

*Balloon and burst

F*ck you, autocarrot 😡

😂😂😂I was wondering why they rusted!

But yes it is fascinating (I loved all this as a kid). Whales that dive deep can actually collapse their lungs so they don't die from the pressure! Plus apparently they have a jointed rib cage that allows their thoracic cavity to collapse with their lungs. Makes you wonder how that evolved!

Someone said to me today that they’d heard one of the men on board was about to be done for dodgy money dealings so might have wanted to fake his own death

Not an expert, but I can't help thinking there are easier ways than going to the bottom of the ocean and being vaporised.

Our bodies are something like 70% water. In milliseconds the fragile flesh (and even bone) is crushed to pulp and will be dispersed throughout the ocean. They will doubtless provide nutrition for single celled organisms, plankton etc, which will filter it out and use it.

Nothing is wasted in God's Divine economy (Or in the evolutionary food ceconomy, if you don't believe in God)

I question your use of the word "correctly" here. This was a publicly funded rescue mission where there weas no hope of rescue and the public (and press) were kept in the dark.

I didn't know that carrot (about the rib cage).

Every day is a school day here! 😀

They would compress instantly - all the air spaces in the human body, and we have a lot! - would just collapse so I guess a body would end up very flat or a tiny rectangle - don't know! But certainly not much left to find. It would happen so fast that pain receptors and even consciousness would be too slow to be aware.

Of course they couldn't release that information.

Suppose it hadn't been the sub imploding? Suppose the rescue had been called off, and five men were left to die of thirst and suffocation when they could have been saved?

They had to have either proof that the implosion was the submersible, or for it to be so far past the survival time that they could, with clear conscience, call it a day.

Well, the first point is that these poor souls died too quickly to feel anything. The change in pressure would have been extreme and would happen too fast for them to process it.

It’s very possible that after the pressure wave killed them, the extreme compression of the gases in the sub heated the gases and the remains enough to cause a massive rise in temperature. The Coast Guard aren’t expecting to find remains because the remains were effectively cremated immediately after death.