Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

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Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

No, it isn't. It's the reporter's slant. The official news is they will continue as a rescue mission until a full 24 hours after the oxygen is thought to have run out.

Yes, I advise governments (sometimes against other governments) and have developed skills to decipher their public messages. With Covid in UK- I was always 3 weeks ahead of gov public updates so that I was in constant demand by friends and relative to explain to them what 'it all really meant as I was more honest'.

TBH, this one isn't too difficult to decipher. It's just sensitivity, not kabuki.

It was hardly a restroom. It looked more like a piss bottle from the video I saw.

I missed the other threads, this rescue sounds so unlikely now however until otherwise there is still hope. The CEOs wife lost her great grandparents on the ship and now possibly her husband, dreadful for everyone involved.

On a search scale, this is bigger than a needle in a haystack scenario even with reasonably good information about where the sub should be, which of course it might not be anywhere near the correct place anyway. They're effectively looking for a single speck of white sand on an entire beach of normal brown coloured sand.

US Air Force are still in Jersey. Appear to be readying to leave but in no particular rush. I was supposed to be at an after hours event at the airport tonight and that's just been cancelled as 'they're unsure if the airport will be required to remain open late' so who knows when they're likely to depart.

The airport usually closes the runway at 9pm.

oh thanks.Didn't see the update with the specific time (24 hours) being mentioned by officials. That's more honest.

Must say I have found the US official's (coastguard) updates more honest and timely (even if they have to override previous updates as in the banging sound) than what we get from our UK gov officials plus the Met who just like to say, 'we ask people not to speculate'. I really hate being lied to by officials or being treated like I don't have a brain.

Asked when rescuers might consider the situation is “beyond all hope”, Mauger said “there is a time and place for that discussion” but that the focus of the unified command team was “on using the capability that we have now on site to locate the people and the submersible”.

Just because some news sites have had a ticking down clock for the oxygen supplies doesn't mean it's over. There are so many variables and unknowns.

Right now, the search will continue regardless of what is publicly stated as the purpose of it. To find the 5 and the sub - dead or alive is hugely important right now and maybe for the next 24 hours or 48 hours. I am sure most will agree on that.

4000 metres is 4km 🤦‍♀️

The weather in the area is really good today, they will press on full steam.

Weather on scene: winds at 14 mph with gusts up to 19mph. Sea state is 4-5ft swells with an air temp of 50°f.
US coastguard

@milkyaqua Correct. And that has been repeated many times, here and elsewhere. An essay can be written on the variables.

They can even find the sub with some of them subconscious as the heart is the last to stop- said a specialist dr on BBC.

I am sick to think about the panic those poor people must have suffered. I pray for peace for them and their families.

@Itisyourturntowashthebath
yes, read about the weather too, this morning. Another reason for the search to continue as it is safe for all today.

Of course they may never find the Titan or not for many years. And we may never know what happened or their final messages.

If I was with my 19 yr old DS I'd want us to go together. But after Mr Rush.

Someone has put up an animation showing the vessels involved in the rescue and their movements to reach the area:

Someone raised a really good point, why do these missions not involve an escort sub for safety. I know double the cost, but money doesn't seem to be an issue for OceanGate.

I was thinking why was there no GPS or tracker on the sub.

GPS doesn’t work under water.

Because GPS trackers do not work under water, as said several times before on these threads.

I'll freely admit this is pure speculation but I'm thinking with such poor visability and strong currents this would me move of a liability than an asset.

Although I think an ROV that waits with the mothership to be deployed if the origional is lost could make sense

Is it possible to put a siren on all the commercial vehicles that can get lost at sea? Something like an emergency button that sets off a bleeping that goes on for ages. We keep losing things underwater and surely we can find a way to not keep losing them? I can see why a military submarine doesn't want one, but something like this or a passenger plane...

An emergency beacon would not have gone astray.

Surely in this day of high tech there must be some underwater tracking available? It all seems so crude and amateurish. Like going sailing in a boat made of washing up bottles.