Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

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Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

And how was the debris found 1600 feet from the Titanic? Surely they descended closer to the wreck than that? Unless the implosion blew the debris that far?

If it was my family member, I'd be relieved it was likely an instant death rather than sitting there aware you were suffocating.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12222279/OceanGate-boss-Stockton-Rush-revealed-hes-broken-rules-make-lost-Titan-sub.html

Here the CEO Stockton Rush who was on board is quoted as having said

Despite the risks of entering such an inhospitable environment, Rush appears very confident in his invention in the clip, that has emerged on TikTok.
'It’s acrylic – plexiglass,' Rush tells Estrada after being asked what the window mounted at the front of the Titan vessel is made of.
'It is seven inches thick and weighs about 80lbs. And when we go to the Titanic, it will squeeze in about three-quarters of an inch and just deforms,' he explains.
'And acrylic is great because before it cracks or fails, it starts to crackle so you get a huge warning if it’s going to fail.'

and also was

I'd like to be remembered as an innovator,' Rush is then seen telling the actor. 'I think it was General (Douglas) MacArthur who said: "You're remembered for the rules you break." And you know, I've broken some rules to make this.
'I think I broke them with logic and good engineering behind me. The carbon fibre and titanium, there's a rule you don't do that – well I did,' the CEO says.
'There's picking the rules that you break that are the rules that will add value to others and add value to society, and that really to me is about innovation.'

You've got to wonder whether this happened (the acrylic started to crackle before the implosion) and if thought in those moments, he realised that his decision to break rules and ignore safety advice was not a good one.

I feel so sorry for the families and for the employee who lost his life.

Wtf have a read of the Byford Dolphin if you want to understand what happens when something implodes under high pressure.

So sad for all the families but thank goodness they most likely did not suffer. I can’t imagine how the 19 year old’s mother is feeling, she has lost her husband and her son 😥such a waste of life!

Rest in peace to those wild & wonderful souls!

I am especially sad for the poor woman who lost her husband & son. I hope god gives her the strength to survive & live

That's what I mean, where did that "fact" come from if not the official source?

I watched the Mexican Actor's vid with incredulous dismay.

The owner seemed so unfazed by risk and problems exhibited by his craft.

Fine for him to risk his own life, but he took others with him, which is wrong in my opinion.

Gossip!

Noise was heard that needed to be investigated.

That turned into speculation and so on and before you know it...

Her and Shahzada have another child, a daughter, to keep her going, I’m glad her and her daughter have each other in this hard time.

If they release the "banging noises", then it might put the conspiracy theories to rest at least?

The enclosed area where the passengers were located is the pressure chamber. That pressure can be lost very rapidly, i.e. catastrophically, by some weakeness suddenly giving way in the hull, maybe around a join or bolt, who knows. But once it gives, the pressure from outside (which is far, far greater than that inside the chamber) causes death to the occupants instantly and the pieces to blow apart and drift down to the bottom of the ocean.

The knockings were indeed fake news.

I think we were all following in the hope of hearing about an extraordinary investigation, amazing feats of science and endurance and the rescue of at least some of them.

This is sad.

It was also quoted at one point that the banging was morse code for SOS.

If you don’t hear it in the official US coast guard briefings, they it’s probably not true.

*weakness, not weakeness. It's been a long day.

You've got to wonder whether this happened (the acrylic started to crackle before the implosion) and if thought in those moments, he realised that his decision to break rules and ignore safety advice was not a good one.

I thought something similar myself. In buildings, structural failures aren't always instant, there's often the noise of parts breaking seconds or minutes before the final collapse. I wonder if something similar might have happened on the Titan - could they have known something was wrong, maybe even been trying to ascend but it was too late, or more chillingly might the pilot or CEO have been reassuring the passengers that "those noises are normal" when in truth they were the warning signs.

I wonder if we will ever know. What kind of instrumentation did the sub have? Did the passengers usually film inside a lot? Memory chips are pretty tough - if something like a camera or smartphone is found, I'd say it's possible that data could be recovered from its chips.

I’m wondering what good a warning of plexiglass about to break is?! It’s surely not likely they’d make it back to the surface in time for it to be of any use…

I hope it was over quickly and they had no idea what was happening.

And how was the debris found 1600 feet from the Titanic? Surely they descended closer to the wreck than that? Unless the implosion blew the debris that far?

I think the journey there takes about 3 hours. The full descent and ascent is 8 hours. and they think the implosion happened when they lost contact about 1 hour 45 mins into the journey.

So they hadn't reached the full depth the time it imploded.

Thank you @chupachucks for your explanation about water pressure. That was such a clear explanation for someone like me who struggles immensely with understanding even the most basic physics and the terminology relating to it. I hope you’re a science teacher!

RE: "Whats the banging then? Are they going to find the source of that or what?", they were asked at the conference and shrugged it off, because what does it matter, at this stage?
@TallulahBetty, they were supposed to go down to the seabed and then travel to the wreck for 20 minutes (according to the documentaries linked to earlier) then stay around it for a couple of hours.
Also thinking about the 19 year old's uni friends...

The owner described {In the Mexican's video} how things would literally explode with dynamite like released energy.

I heard that the knocking was the cause of it exploding today after days of knocking there was a crack in fiber glass

“Catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber” - what does this mean in layman’s terms?

@TheTERFnextDoor The chamber they were in that was designed to withstand the pressure of water at whatever depth they were at, failed and collapsed in on itself and them. I've read that it would've been so quick their nerves wouldn't even perceive it.

I watched a video earlier and the man said that they descend in front of the titanic so that they can drive up to it and have the view from the front as it’s the best view from the window