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Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 3

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DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 16:56

Tomorrow is the Commons vote on the Privileges Committee's findings that Boris Johnson deliberately misled Parliament over Downing Street parties during lockdown

The vote is a free vote rather than being whipped either way. Tories have been told that the vote will be a one-line whip, meaning they will not be obliged to participate.

Boris Johnson is believed to have advised his backers to not vote against it.

Michael Gove confirmed on live tv that he will abstain

Tobias Elwood has u-turned on abstaining after hearing stories from voters

Rishi Sunak, who knows

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cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:20

We seem to be using UnParliamentary language now!

IClaudine · 19/06/2023 21:21

Rhondaa · 19/06/2023 21:15

'at some point you’re going to have to accept that your understanding of a party/social gathering is just at odds with society.'

The footage of Johnson at work, in an office with sandwiches on the table was not a party. I'll never change my mind. The whole thing has been a stitch up from start to finish. Granted the unelected folk in Xmas jumpers should've been bollocked but again, BJ wasn't there so not his fault. Why don't senior civil servants do their job and manage effectively?

The Shaun Bailey party had nothing to do with civil servants.

Who was the Head of the Civil Service during the pandemic? Who did they answer to? Who was the Minister for the Civil Service?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 19/06/2023 21:23

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cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:24

Who was the Head of the Civil Service during the pandemic

I think he was asked to investigate if guidance had been followed in Downing Street.

Until Sue Grey was asked to do it.

I wonder if we will ever see the risk assessment for Downing Street that should have been produced during the pandemic - a guide to what to do in Downing Street and how to keep yourself and others safe in the pandemic.

I wonder if Johnson read it?

Peregrina · 19/06/2023 21:24

The whole thing has been a stitch up from start to finish.

You think that Janiie, but why then has Johnson gone and run away? A suspension of that length only offers the possibility of a recall petition. The Constituents of Uxbridge might have thought the same as you and no by election would happen.

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/06/2023 21:24

cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:20

We seem to be using UnParliamentary language now!

Was that the idiot bit. It made me laugh.

cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:24

Debate closing - will there be a vote? Listen for the "No"

cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:25

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/06/2023 21:24

Was that the idiot bit. It made me laugh.

Oh yes. Surprised that got through

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/06/2023 21:25

I think there will be 1 or 2.

Cornettoninja · 19/06/2023 21:26

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cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:26

I love the way Divisions are called.

cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:26

That was a "No"

OhYouBadBadKitten · 19/06/2023 21:28

Who was the No, no, no man?

DuncinToffee · 19/06/2023 21:28

Division

Commons now voting on the privileges committee report on Boris Johnson

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Peregrina · 19/06/2023 21:29

I am pleased to note that some Tory members have integrity still.

Notonthestairs · 19/06/2023 21:29

Do we know who shouted No! ?

heartsinvisiblefury · 19/06/2023 21:30

Rhondaa · 19/06/2023 20:06

God, I can't watch anymore they'll be having a group hug next.

I suppose when you're programmed to respond to lies, it must be a struggle when the truth is spoken

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RafaistheKingofClay · 19/06/2023 21:31

That’s got to be Bill Cash or one of the madder Tories.

IClaudine · 19/06/2023 21:32

Is Gullis there? I can imagine him having a good bellow.

cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:34

This is the guidance to offices published by the Government during Covid

PowerPoint Presentation (publishing.service.gov.uk)

"To help you decide which actions to take, you must carry out an appropriate COVID-19 risk assessment, just as you would for other health and safety related hazards. This risk assessment must be done in consultation with unions or workers"

Businesses and workplaces should make every reasonable effort to ensure their employees can work safely. When in the workplace, everyone should make every reasonable effort to comply with the social distancing guidelines set out by the government (2m, or 1m with risk mitigation where 2m is not viable is acceptable).

Where the social distancing guidelines cannot be followed in full, in relation to a particular activity, businesses should consider whether that activity can be redesigned to maintain a 2m distance or 1m with risk mitigations where 2m is not viable. â–ª Further mitigating actions include

Further increasing the frequency of hand washing and surface cleaning. â–ª
Keeping the activity time involved as short as possible. â–ª
Using screens or barriers to separate people from each other. â–ª
Using back-to-back or side-to-side working (rather than face-to-face) whenever possible. â–ª
Reducing the number of people each person has contact with by using ‘fixed teams or partnering’ (so each person works with only a few others).

Where the social distancing guidelines cannot be followed in full, even through redesigning a particular activity, businesses should consider whether that activity needs to continue for the business to operate, and if so, take all the mitigating actions possible to reduce the risk of transmission between their staff

You should ensure that steps are taken to avoid people needing to unduly raise their voices to each other. This includes, but is not limited to, refraining from playing music or broadcasts that may encourage shouting, including if played at a volume that makes normal conversation difficult. This is because of the potential for increased risk of transmission, particularly from aerosol transmission. We will develop further guidance, based on scientific evidence, to enable these activities as soon as possible.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5eb97e7686650c278d4496ea/working-safely-during-covid-19-offices-contact-centres-041120.pdf

cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:37

I know those guidelines because I was heavily involved in keeping our office safe during Covid and taking steps to reduce contact with others.

I would have known that having a celebration such as cake was not sensible, even though we may have had meetings before. Because we were trying to keep contact as short as possible and to have as much social distancing as possible.

DuncinToffee · 19/06/2023 21:38

It seems to have been a labour whip who called No to force the vote

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cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:38

And there is no way you can excuse Wine Friday.

And if he did not know that guidance was not being followed, then he either a liar or an idiot.

cakeorwine · 19/06/2023 21:39

DuncinToffee · 19/06/2023 21:38

It seems to have been a labour whip who called No to force the vote

That's what I thought might happen.

Are the Telllers all Labour as well?

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