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Major incident in Nottingham

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Childcare47 · 13/06/2023 09:21

Anyone local know what’s going on?

Looks like a huge response.

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TallerThanAverage · 13/06/2023 17:33

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Lifeomars · 13/06/2023 17:34

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You know this how? It would appear that the attacks were random, not in any way targeted and at this stage (I live in Nottingham) we know nothing of any certainty other than 3 people are dead with the attendant horror that this will bring to their loved ones and another 3 people are in hospital. I really can't understand why people who know nothing other than the headline facts which is all any of us know, make these speculative and very unhelpful comments.

TallerThanAverage · 13/06/2023 17:37

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Redebs · 13/06/2023 17:39

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/06/2023 14:49

Looks like an Islamic terror attack to me

There's nothing "Islamic" about terror attacks, TheFrendo, though it's true they disproportionately involve men who call themselves muslims

If the attackers turn out to be people who pretend to follow Islam - and we don't know that yet - I've no doubt many of their wider community will be equally grieved, not least because of the effect it'll have on them

Thank you for your sensible words, @Puzzledandpissedoff

Lifeomars · 13/06/2023 17:40

herealone · 13/06/2023 16:56

I really loathe comments of “I know someone who knows someone who lives there”. It doesn’t mean anything.

I’m within 5 minutes drive of one of the locations and the other is my old road. It means nothing. It’s not about me or the other countless people that live there. It’s about the victims.

I agree that it is about the victims, but I live very close to the area where one of the killings took place and about 5 minutes away from where a van is being searched in a cordoned off street. I feel very unsettled by this, it is not a good area, lots of crime and can feel quite unsafe so it is not unatural for those of us close to the scene(s) to feel uneasy about what has happened.

SilenceOfTheGoats · 13/06/2023 17:42

Yes but the 'It could've been me' or 'I'm glad my boyfriend's nan's sister's friend didn't make it there today' or 'I'll be holding my kids a bit closer tonight' comments aren't exactly consoling, are they? They just make the posters feel better.

I can imagine if any of the victims' family members read these comments, they might say 'Good for you. Glad it wasn't you or anyone you know'.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 13/06/2023 17:43

Loopylalalou · 13/06/2023 15:35

I don’t often post on Mumsnet. I’m probably quite a bit older than most (64) and I’m fairly content that I have a balanced view of life and its’ happenings due to lived experience. My employment has supported is, often involving making tough decisions that may impact on others.
I find I’m regularly dismayed by the posts made by those obviously enmeshed in the social media phenomenon - speculating on the might be’s, not caring about realities, often without any wider experience of the many types of communities that make up life in our world.
So girlies, try and grow up a little. Terrorism doesn’t equal Muslim. It equals someone that has had their mind bent by their own interpretation of an ideology - and whatever it’s meant in the past (Irish, blacks, etc) the one sure thing is that all perpetrators were nutters,
And heed the message given above. Whatever May be passing the time in your live today will involve other people in various bad ways. Feel sorrow, not speculation. And don’t be a smart arse.

And I'm regularly dismayed by the patronising, ageist and misogynistic crap that is posted on here. Plus my favourite of all posters that are holier than thou, above speculation but are all over theads like these with their judges pants fully pulled up.

lieselotte · 13/06/2023 17:43

Looks like an Islamic terror attack to me

why are people so keen to ascribe a motive?

It's just another example of murderous toxic male violence.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 13/06/2023 17:45

SilenceOfTheGoats · 13/06/2023 17:42

Yes but the 'It could've been me' or 'I'm glad my boyfriend's nan's sister's friend didn't make it there today' or 'I'll be holding my kids a bit closer tonight' comments aren't exactly consoling, are they? They just make the posters feel better.

I can imagine if any of the victims' family members read these comments, they might say 'Good for you. Glad it wasn't you or anyone you know'.

There but by the Grace of God go I is a saying as old as time. We forget we are still just animals, with an inbuilt desire to stay alive.

Lampzade · 13/06/2023 17:46

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/06/2023 14:49

Looks like an Islamic terror attack to me

There's nothing "Islamic" about terror attacks, TheFrendo, though it's true they disproportionately involve men who call themselves muslims

If the attackers turn out to be people who pretend to follow Islam - and we don't know that yet - I've no doubt many of their wider community will be equally grieved, not least because of the effect it'll have on them

This

BarelyLiterate · 13/06/2023 17:48

Apparently, there is not one journalist or producer in the London media who can pronounce the word ‘Ilkeston’ correctly and tell their colleagues how to pronounce it.
Of course, it’s ‘Illson’ to proper locals, mi duck.

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 13/06/2023 17:49

SilenceOfTheGoats · 13/06/2023 17:42

Yes but the 'It could've been me' or 'I'm glad my boyfriend's nan's sister's friend didn't make it there today' or 'I'll be holding my kids a bit closer tonight' comments aren't exactly consoling, are they? They just make the posters feel better.

I can imagine if any of the victims' family members read these comments, they might say 'Good for you. Glad it wasn't you or anyone you know'.

It's bizarre and I'm sure psychologists are already studying it. I know in other countries it's called "mitomania" = the need to be at the centre of attention. It's like the fastest finger posters when someone dies and the people begging for updates on traumatic threads.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/06/2023 17:50

Statement from police says it looks as if the 31yo man stabbed a man in his 50s and stole his van, which he then drove at the three people who were injured. The two students killed were 19. What a tragedy.

No word on motive as yet.

Overthinkingnotdrinking · 13/06/2023 17:50

Poor families sending their children to university for them to be killed. How many more children need to be killed this way before something is done. It’s not right.

BarelyLiterate · 13/06/2023 17:50

It's bizarre and I'm sure psychologists are already studying it. I know in other countries it's called "mitomania" = the need to be at the centre of attention.

I prefer the term ‘grief vulture’.

MakesMeFeelSad · 13/06/2023 17:53

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It's victim blaming for a start, 3 people have died and 3 others have been injured and here you are making allegations about drugs and organised crime?

Which it doesn't sound anything like

Fallenties · 13/06/2023 17:53

SilenceOfTheGoats · 13/06/2023 17:42

Yes but the 'It could've been me' or 'I'm glad my boyfriend's nan's sister's friend didn't make it there today' or 'I'll be holding my kids a bit closer tonight' comments aren't exactly consoling, are they? They just make the posters feel better.

I can imagine if any of the victims' family members read these comments, they might say 'Good for you. Glad it wasn't you or anyone you know'.

People are human. Having lost a family member in a horrific and high profile manner can't say we were trawling messageboards to see what random people had to say, but also didn't think badly of people expressing their shock and being thankful it wasn't their loved one. People are human at the end of the day, something like this can hit home to people and I don't get why some are so offended by people typing this out on the Internet.

DisquietintheRanks · 13/06/2023 17:54

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SilenceOfTheGoats · 13/06/2023 17:56

@Fallenties

I don't know, you seem pretty outraged yourself and offended by some people being offended. As you say, people are human which means they can feel how they want right?

VisionsOfSplendour · 13/06/2023 17:57

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I very much doubt it, it has all the hallmarks of a lone person possibly mentally unwell or high

Overthinkingnotdrinking · 13/06/2023 17:59

@DisquietintheRanks bloody hell chill out. If I said what I would like to I’d get my post deleted so I went with what’s on my heart. Are you ok? Going off the deep end there.

VisionsOfSplendour · 13/06/2023 18:00

Overthinkingnotdrinking · 13/06/2023 17:50

Poor families sending their children to university for them to be killed. How many more children need to be killed this way before something is done. It’s not right.

Uni students aren't children, what do you mean in this way? When was the last time students were killed in any similar way

Horrific although the whole situation is it's a rare occurance

SilenceOfTheGoats · 13/06/2023 18:01

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Overthinkingnotdrinking · 13/06/2023 18:01

My adult dd is still my child. And London Bridge and the Manchester bombings. Young people killed by maniacs. How many more times are we going to see this

lollipoprainbow · 13/06/2023 18:02

@VisionsOfSplendour they are someone's precious children. Their whole lives ahead of them just awful.