Mum sentenced to 28 months in prison for abortion pills

[mumoftwobarnyboys]

Used after the cut off point of 10 weeks.

Regardless of how far gone she was, surely this isn't right?

It is her body, despite me morally really thinking what she did was very wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/12/woman-in-uk-jailed-for-28-months-over-taking-abortion-pills-after-legal-time-limit?CMP=twtgu&utmmsource=Twitter&utmmedium=&s=08#Echobox=1686577294

Wow. This is some crazy shit right here. Did those women who originally proclaimed a woman’s right to choose think this was what they were fighting for? I’ll bet they didn’t

There's something seriously wrong with you then

She had choices, she chose not to take them . No one forced her to carry that baby for 32 weeks

Hyperbole doesn't win the argument - this is nothing like the holocaust. Forcing a woman to have a baby against her will is much more akin to The Handmaids Tale and what's going on right now in Iran and Afghanistan, than my views are to the holocaust FFS.

Foster is the defendant in this case. The HCPs should “act as they see fit”, eh? Wow. Just wow.

You would have no idea what they stood for @AgathaSpencerGregson

I don't see how anyone has the right to force anyone to have a baby and be a mother when they don't want to be.

Nobody is forcing her to have a baby, the baby is there and has to be had at some point.
At 33 weeks we are talking about a 4lb baby, there is no subtle way out.

If she doesn't want to be a mother, that is another matter.

The desire to not be a mother does not outweigh a full formed fetus' life.

If you don't want to be a mother, nobody's forcing you to. Still, you don't get to terminate at that point just because 'I don't like the thought of having a child out there' like WTF

She had the choice of using contraception, she had the choice of having an abortion . She was not forced to do anything

I'm fine as I am thanks @MakesMeFeelSad - as I said, I'm happy to agree to disagree, but your attitude in trying to force me to agree with your view is quite horrifying really.

You think not permitting Foster to abort her baby at 34 weeks with illegally procured drugs is like the taliban do you? I wonder what women actually living under the taliban would think of that.

So you wouldn't want to be the one terminating then?

I'm not trying to force you to agree with my views, you don't even know what my views are

I'm not a HCP @MakesMeFeelSad but if I were, then I'd definitely help a woman in distress to get rid of a foetus she didn't want.

Her body, her choice. I'll never agree with anything other tha a woman having full bodily autonomy.

I don’t recall any of those campaigners claiming that not being able to off your baby shortly before birth was equivalent to living under a Stone Age theocracy, no.
but hey, maybe I missed that bit.

Maybe you did @AgathaSpencerGregson

Sorry, I don’t agree that expecting a HCP to end a babies life up to the full term of their pregnancy, whatever their views in the interests of being “professional” is all that differed to the holocaust.

HCP are still entitled to have a moral compass and so the should. They should not be absolved of their integrity at the whim of another individual.

i also suspect if it were possible to access an abortion so late. With women having missed earlier opportunities there’s a high probability of them regretting it and bringing actions against those HCP.

If ypu want late term abortions then maybe you should offer to do it, it's really easy to sit there giving your views when you aren't the one having to deal with it

How many injections into the heart and deliveries of those dead full term babies do you think you could do before you cracked ?

I don't disagree re HCPS @RedRosette2023 - that was never my argument.

well their campaign seems to have been an abject failure, in that case, given the current position . Not sure it has better prospects of success now …

What the fuck are you talking about @MakesMeFeelSad - I believe in a woman's right to bodily autonomy, I've never once said anyone else should be compelled to do anything against their beliefs.

She had choices though: contraception, sterilisation, abortion etc. Still, she chose to kill that baby. Plain and simple.
Probably some posters here would agree to babies being killed right after birth just because they suddenly have decided they don't want to be mothers.

Bodily autonomy my ass.

Well in that case your right to full bodily autonomy seems illusory. I can’t imagine people will queue up for the job of aborting near term babies on mum’s say-so. Unless you plan to recruit your HCPs from the ranks of diagnosed psychopaths.

Get rid of a foetus….

What disgusting words.

I stand by my words @MyTruthIsOut whether you like them or not. It's not a baby.

OK so who do you expect to do these late terminations then?

It doesn't sound like you want to be the one to do them do you just expect a change in law and hcps just have to go along with it? Hcps who are predominantly women btw

@Gothambutnotahamster you said you'd expect HCPs to just get on with their job. Would that be regardless of their beliefs?